Lambert09 Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 His touch is conference standard....sort that out and im happy for you to say.....got to be pointed out again that the penalty all came from him loosing possession from an elephants touch... when you start a match you need to get those first few passes right....he gave them the momentum from the start. However, I felt he had a decent second half, despite being a little bit quiet....Nugent looked the worse of the two yesterday.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 He was dog shite, as he has been for most, if not all of, of his time here... It's nothing to do with not playing to his strengths, or him being new to the side, or him struggling to settle. If we break it down to simple attributes the guy has few redeeming qualities. As I said in the post-match thread; has he got a first touch? No. Good decision making? No. Work rate? No. Aerial strength? No. Passing ability? No. Awareness? No. The guy has scored goals in the past, that much is unquestionable. Somehow, he has managed to put the ball in the net at other clubs and he seems to be one of those rare commodities: a 'goalscorer'. So why is he not scoring goals at Leicester? He's had ample time to settle and has shown no signs of improvement thus far so I don't think it can be that. Even if it were how long do we wait for this happen?! We can't give him forever. Particularly when he brings nothing else to the table whilst failing to score goals. I think the playing to his strengths argument is redundant. Someone with such little all round ability is not someone you build your team around. A Modric, a Fabregas, a Gerrard? Maybe so. A Beckford? Don't be silly. Teams that he's been at before have not adapted for Jermaine Beckford so neither should we. I personally think the difference is that Beckford is not working as hard for his goals here as he has done at other clubs. At Leeds he had the determination to make it to the top, at Everton the desire to prove he could hack it there. With us, having been booted out of Everton, what does he have left to prove to himself? At the minute he smacks of a player that feels he's playing beneath himself, a player that's peaked, a player that doesn't really want to be at Leicester. 'The stare' at West Ham, the love-in versus Leeds and the consistent, distinct lack of effort lead me to suggest this. Yesterday was the final straw for me with Beckford. A player not scoring goals but clearly putting the work in I can take, even Trevor Benjamin became a sort of cult hero purely for his effort and work rate. A player that refuses to move, challenge for simple headers or put a shift in I have no time for. Those claiming he got a good reception when he was taken off yesterday must be deluded, probably the same deluded lot that tried to convince yourselves that we hadn't been thoroughly shafted on Mills too until you no longer could. I'll help you with this one: that noise that you heard was a concoction of ironic cheers and relieved clapping at a long overdue change. And talking of changes, one that sees us cut our losses and wave 'The Stare' off to his next pay packet is becoming increasingly overdue as well...
The Doctor Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 He was dog shite, as he has been for most, if not all of, of his time here... It's nothing to do with not playing to his strengths, or him being new to the side, or him struggling to settle. If we break it down to simple attributes the guy has few redeeming qualities. As I said in the post-match thread; has he got a first touch? No. Good decision making? No. Work rate? No. Aerial strength? No. Passing ability? No. Awareness? No. The guy has scored goals in the past, that much is unquestionable. Somehow, he has managed to put the ball in the net at other clubs and he seems to be one of those rare commodities: a 'goalscorer'. So why is he not scoring goals at Leicester? He's had ample time to settle and has shown no signs of improvement thus far so I don't think it can be that. Even if it were how long do we wait for this happen?! We can't give him forever. Particularly when he brings nothing else to the table whilst failing to score goals. I think the playing to his strengths argument is redundant. Someone with such little all round ability is not someone you build your team around. A Modric, a Fabregas, a Gerrard? Maybe so. A Beckford? Don't be silly. Teams that he's been at before have not adapted for Jermaine Beckford so neither should we. I personally think the difference is that Beckford is not working as hard for his goals here as he has done at other clubs. At Leeds he had the determination to make it to the top, at Everton the desire to prove he could hack it there. With us, having been booted out of Everton, what does he have left to prove to himself? At the minute he smacks of a player that feels he's playing beneath himself, a player that's peaked, a player that doesn't really want to be at Leicester. 'The stare' at West Ham, the love-in versus Leeds and the consistent, distinct lack of effort lead me to suggest this. Yesterday was the final straw for me with Beckford. A player not scoring goals but clearly putting the work in I can take, even Trevor Benjamin became a sort of cult hero purely for his effort and work rate. A player that refuses to move, challenge for simple headers or put a shift in I have no time for. Those claiming he got a good reception when he was taken off yesterday must be deluded, probably the same deluded lot that tried to convince yourselves that we hadn't been thoroughly shafted on Mills too until you no longer could. I'll help you with this one: that noise that you heard was a concoction of ironic cheers and relieved clapping at a long overdue change. And talking of changes, one that sees us cut our losses and wave 'The Stare' off to his next pay packet is becoming increasingly overdue as well... Yes, I know for a fact Leeds didn't adapt their style to fit his strengths. Oh wait... C'mon he's a decent scorer, IF we play to his strengths and actually get the ball to him in behind, get him the one-on-ones and such that he will actually cause problems for. I don't see really why we still persist with the midfield and force the long hoof when none of our strikers are going to be any use with those long hoofs.
smudger63 Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Yes, I know for a fact Leeds didn't adapt their style to fit his strengths. Oh wait... C'mon he's a decent scorer, IF we play to his strengths and actually get the ball to him in behind, get him the one-on-ones and such that he will actually cause problems for. I don't see really why we still persist with the midfield and force the long hoof when none of our strikers are going to be any use with those long hoofs. I agree with this, and if we are going to be persisting in playing a more direct style of football, Billy Sharp wont be the answer either, and we would be better off, trying to bring in a mobile Target man, to replace Howard.It`s no coincidence to me either, that since Pearson has come in and changed the style of football, that Nugent has not been as effective either. If Beckford goes to another club, where they give him the kind of service he thrives on, he will score goals, simple!
MPH Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 I Just dont think he really wanted to drop down a division but it was probably made clear to him that Everton needed to sell. He was forced out and we bid the most. His problem is motivation, not skill. People seem to forget he held his own in the prem. He wouldnt suddenly become not good enough for us. He has played badly in a few games which is different to being a bad player.
Bettsj2 Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 You're shit Beckford, you're SHIT!! Booooo Beckford, Booooooo. Gerrimoff, he's shit!! Boooooooo.
bluearmyfox23 Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 This would be a joke to the club and embarrassing for us fans, also who is goin to want to pay £30,000 a week on wages for a player in shit form ?
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 This would be a joke to the club and embarrassing for us fans, also who is goin to want to pay £30,000 a week on wages for a player in shit form ? One that can actually provide him with chances and play to his strengths. :thumbsup:
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Which Is who. ? QPR, Swansea, Wigan, even Wolves are crying out for an out and out goal scorer. I'll bet there is at least one there that would have him in a heartbeat and that is just from the Prem.
Father Ted Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 He was dog shite, as he has been for most, if not all of, of his time here... It's nothing to do with not playing to his strengths, or him being new to the side, or him struggling to settle. If we break it down to simple attributes the guy has few redeeming qualities. As I said in the post-match thread; has he got a first touch? No. Good decision making? No. Work rate? No. Aerial strength? No. Passing ability? No. Awareness? No. The guy has scored goals in the past, that much is unquestionable. Somehow, he has managed to put the ball in the net at other clubs and he seems to be one of those rare commodities: a 'goalscorer'. So why is he not scoring goals at Leicester? He's had ample time to settle and has shown no signs of improvement thus far so I don't think it can be that. Even if it were how long do we wait for this happen?! We can't give him forever. Particularly when he brings nothing else to the table whilst failing to score goals. I think the playing to his strengths argument is redundant. Someone with such little all round ability is not someone you build your team around. A Modric, a Fabregas, a Gerrard? Maybe so. A Beckford? Don't be silly. Teams that he's been at before have not adapted for Jermaine Beckford so neither should we. I personally think the difference is that Beckford is not working as hard for his goals here as he has done at other clubs. At Leeds he had the determination to make it to the top, at Everton the desire to prove he could hack it there. With us, having been booted out of Everton, what does he have left to prove to himself? At the minute he smacks of a player that feels he's playing beneath himself, a player that's peaked, a player that doesn't really want to be at Leicester. 'The stare' at West Ham, the love-in versus Leeds and the consistent, distinct lack of effort lead me to suggest this. Yesterday was the final straw for me with Beckford. A player not scoring goals but clearly putting the work in I can take, even Trevor Benjamin became a sort of cult hero purely for his effort and work rate. A player that refuses to move, challenge for simple headers or put a shift in I have no time for. Those claiming he got a good reception when he was taken off yesterday must be deluded, probably the same deluded lot that tried to convince yourselves that we hadn't been thoroughly shafted on Mills too until you no longer could. I'll help you with this one: that noise that you heard was a concoction of ironic cheers and relieved clapping at a long overdue change. And talking of changes, one that sees us cut our losses and wave 'The Stare' off to his next pay packet is becoming increasingly overdue as well... Hit the nail on the head mate. Beckford has the ability, but he's not there mentally. He's giving me nightmares of DJ Campbell.
flowwolf Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 When he came here as a last few minutes signing I had splinters in my fingers through scratching mt head. I could not work out why Everton who's major problem was not scoring enough goals would even consider letting him go, yes i know they needed money but deep down the hole thing made me uneasy about his arrival. Well now we know why they took the money.
Kitchandro Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 He was dog shite, as he has been for most, if not all of, of his time here... It's nothing to do with not playing to his strengths, or him being new to the side, or him struggling to settle. If we break it down to simple attributes the guy has few redeeming qualities. As I said in the post-match thread; has he got a first touch? No. Good decision making? No. Work rate? No. Aerial strength? No. Passing ability? No. Awareness? No. The guy has scored goals in the past, that much is unquestionable. Somehow, he has managed to put the ball in the net at other clubs and he seems to be one of those rare commodities: a 'goalscorer'. So why is he not scoring goals at Leicester? He's had ample time to settle and has shown no signs of improvement thus far so I don't think it can be that. Even if it were how long do we wait for this happen?! We can't give him forever. Particularly when he brings nothing else to the table whilst failing to score goals. I think the playing to his strengths argument is redundant. Someone with such little all round ability is not someone you build your team around. A Modric, a Fabregas, a Gerrard? Maybe so. A Beckford? Don't be silly. Teams that he's been at before have not adapted for Jermaine Beckford so neither should we. I personally think the difference is that Beckford is not working as hard for his goals here as he has done at other clubs. At Leeds he had the determination to make it to the top, at Everton the desire to prove he could hack it there. With us, having been booted out of Everton, what does he have left to prove to himself? At the minute he smacks of a player that feels he's playing beneath himself, a player that's peaked, a player that doesn't really want to be at Leicester. 'The stare' at West Ham, the love-in versus Leeds and the consistent, distinct lack of effort lead me to suggest this. Yesterday was the final straw for me with Beckford. A player not scoring goals but clearly putting the work in I can take, even Trevor Benjamin became a sort of cult hero purely for his effort and work rate. A player that refuses to move, challenge for simple headers or put a shift in I have no time for. Those claiming he got a good reception when he was taken off yesterday must be deluded, probably the same deluded lot that tried to convince yourselves that we hadn't been thoroughly shafted on Mills too until you no longer could. I'll help you with this one: that noise that you heard was a concoction of ironic cheers and relieved clapping at a long overdue change. And talking of changes, one that sees us cut our losses and wave 'The Stare' off to his next pay packet is becoming increasingly overdue as well... Very good post. I keep saying to myself 'he will come good' but actually, there are no signs of this coming from him.
Lambert09 Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 Everton aren't stupid, just because they need money doesnt mean they would sell anyone, it was a case of clear out the dead wood. If they felt he would help their season he wouldnt of gone anywhere
ibbosuk Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 I am shocked how bad Beckford actually looks. Fookin hell Sven, what have you left us with ?
accessory Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 QPR, Swansea, Wigan, even Wolves are crying out for an out and out goal scorer. I'll bet there is at least one there that would have him in a heartbeat and that is just from the Prem. Yeah I'm really convinced the likes of Rodgers and McCarthy are going to welcome Beckford with open arms in preference to their current strikers. Especially when they see how prolific he's been this year at a lower level..
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 Yeah I'm really convinced the likes of Rodgers and McCarthy are going to welcome Beckford with open arms in preference to their current strikers. Especially when they see how prolific he's been this year at a lower level.. Yeah because they would be so stupid not to recognise he scored goals last year in the Prem wouldn't they?
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 Hit the nail on the head mate. Beckford has the ability, but he's not there mentally. He's giving me nightmares of DJ Campbell. He is shocking, but like you say, DJ all over again, will no doubt score a shit load for somebody else
TheBurts Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 Hi Guys, I'm new here so please dont bite. I'm not a fan of Beckford. I don't think he has pulled his weight since he signed and I'm sure that now Sven has gone he probably wont want to stay. I have no doubt that he will start producing the goods that he has done at Leeds and Everton. However, I don't think he can sign on a full transfer for another team this year. He has played games for everton and us so he wouldn't be able to go out unless it was on a loan? Unless the ruling has changed from a couple of years ago this means that we can't sell him until the summer. ***Edit.. Looks like it is 3 so we can sell him.*** Regards James B
Camb Fox Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 Beckford will come good, the main problem is that he is not getting the service,our midfield need to have that 6th sense and knock that ball through for him to latch on to. Abe had some vision of this against Ipswich. Becks: Hang on in there pal.
Jimmy Posted 29 December 2011 Posted 29 December 2011 Beckford will come good, the main problem is that he is not getting the service,our midfield need to have that 6th sense and knock that ball through for him to latch on to. Abe had some vision of this against Ipswich. Becks: Hang on in there pal. If Yuki had been playing regularly with him I believe those passes would have come off as they would have the timing down
Kitchandro Posted 30 December 2011 Posted 30 December 2011 Beckford will come good, the main problem is that he is not getting the service,our midfield need to have that 6th sense and knock that ball through for him to latch on to. Abe had some vision of this against Ipswich. Becks: Hang on in there pal. There was one point where Nugent was clean through if Abe had played the ball to him, but he played it to Beckford on the other side and the move broke down.
Adster Posted 30 December 2011 Posted 30 December 2011 Just a shame Beckford isn't as good in real life as he is on FIFA
kingfox Posted 30 December 2011 Posted 30 December 2011 Just a shame Beckford isn't as good in real life as he is on FIFA Indeed finished top scorer for me, and someone even bidded £20 million for him this in my first season as Leicester aswell.
Adster Posted 30 December 2011 Posted 30 December 2011 Indeed finished top scorer for me, and someone even bidded £20 million for him this in my first season as Leicester aswell. I have him for my Leicester squad on UT, his record is played 159 scored 234, wow.
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