Ozwin Posted 26 August 2012 Share Posted 26 August 2012 The training tab on the player's profile pages? Do people not look at anything other than the attributes? I love how snobby you get about FM You give it a lot more credit that it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 I don't get "snobby" about FM specifically, I just get frustrated with people - in all walks of life - who don't open their eyes and actually help themselves. Not that I'd expect you to agree with me, Oz, given you ask FT for guidance on basically everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozwin Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 Alright girlfriend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 28 August 2012 Share Posted 28 August 2012 I love how people like you project your own pissiness on to me and assume I'm the one getting upset. I answered a couple of points about a computer game, you got your panties bunched and started making jibes not the other way around. What, because I suggested a game you struggle with is easier than you let on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted 31 August 2012 Share Posted 31 August 2012 Any news on it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelcfc Posted 1 September 2012 Share Posted 1 September 2012 No, announcement mid-september Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 I read three weeks ago that there would be an announcement in three weeks time. May be it will come this week or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydos Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 I read three weeks ago that there would be an announcement in three weeks time. May be it will come this week or next. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 No chance. Well they made announcements throughout August for 2011. I have however since read mid september also, apparently it was due for last week for the Miles Jacobson has had some personal issues which has delayed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydos Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Well they made announcements throughout August for 2011. I have however since read mid september also, apparently it was due for last week for the Miles Jacobson has had some personal issues which has delayed it. Football Manager 2012 - October 21st 2011 Football Manager 2011 - November 5th 2010 Football Manager 2010 - October 30th 2009 Football Manager 2009 - November 14th 2008 Football Manager 2008 - October 18th 2007 Football Manager 2007 - October 20th 2006 Football Manager 2006 - October 21st 2005 Football Manager 2005 - November 5th 2004 Can't see why it would be much different to these dates to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 3 September 2012 Share Posted 3 September 2012 Football Manager 2012 - October 21st 2011 Football Manager 2011 - November 5th 2010 Football Manager 2010 - October 30th 2009 Football Manager 2009 - November 14th 2008 Football Manager 2008 - October 18th 2007 Football Manager 2007 - October 20th 2006 Football Manager 2006 - October 21st 2005 Football Manager 2005 - November 5th 2004 Can't see why it would be much different to these dates to be honest. He's talking about an announcement to the release date. Not the release itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADK Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 Would like the game to be made realistic or to at least have a realistic mode. Realistic mode would have all player and staff statistics hidden permenantly. You would then have to rely entirely on the scouts opinions and your own judgement based on available statistics such as goals scored, tackles made, assists etc. Its far to easy to see who the best players are and just sign 10 players or more a season. Being able to opt out of certain tedious aspects of the game, press conferences/releases are the worst. You can tell the assistant to give the conference but then you get labelled as media shy. Would rather just pick a tone and have them done automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydos Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 Would like the game to be made realistic or to at least have a realistic mode. Realistic mode would have all player and staff statistics hidden permenantly. You would then have to rely entirely on the scouts opinions and your own judgement based on available statistics such as goals scored, tackles made, assists etc. Its far to easy to see who the best players are and just sign 10 players or more a season. Being able to opt out of certain tedious aspects of the game, press conferences/releases are the worst. You can tell the assistant to give the conference but then you get labelled as media shy. Would rather just pick a tone and have them done automatically. You know you can't actually see the players on the game though. What you're saying would be like all the managers in the World being blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 I've had players in the past who's attribute's were not that good, but they were steady players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADK Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 You know you can't actually see the players on the game though. What you're saying would be like all the managers in the World being blind. Not sure what you mean by this? You mean not being able to watch replays of players in action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 Would like the game to be made realistic or to at least have a realistic mode. Realistic mode would have all player and staff statistics hidden permenantly. You would then have to rely entirely on the scouts opinions and your own judgement based on available statistics such as goals scored, tackles made, assists etc. Its far to easy to see who the best players are and just sign 10 players or more a season. You can hide player attributes at the start of the game, which is effectively what you are asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydos Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 Not sure what you mean by this? You mean not being able to watch replays of players in action? There would be literally no way of telling how good a player is. The ratings are the games way of showing you a players ability, the same as if you see a player in real life you can see how fast he his or how good he is at heading or any of the stats on a players profile. If you didn't know any of them you would have no idea what the player was good at, the same as if you were blind in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADK Posted 4 September 2012 Share Posted 4 September 2012 You can hide player attributes at the start of the game, which is effectively what you are asking for. I'm pretty sure it just means that you cannot see all of a players attributes from the start rather than hiding them permenantly. Ie after scouting them even with a shit scout you can see their stats. There would be literally no way of telling how good a player is. The ratings are the games way of showing you a players ability, the same as if you see a player in real life you can see how fast he his or how good he is at heading or any of the stats on a players profile. If you didn't know any of them you would have no idea what the player was good at, the same as if you were blind in real life. You can go and watch players in action at other clubs. You have access to alot of statistics for players like their pass completion their shots to goals etc. And of course there are the scouts reports. Right now i find myself barely doing any homework on a player as i can tell purely from hard stats how good they are going to be in the game. I'm just saying take the hard stats that the game actually uses to calculate player effectiveness away from the view of the user. Have them rely on soft stats. Either way it wouldn't exactly be hard to implement from a programming point of view and theres no real impact on people who would prefer it as it stands, the stats could even be toggled during a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 5 September 2012 Share Posted 5 September 2012 I'm pretty sure it just means that you cannot see all of a players attributes from the start rather than hiding them permenantly. Ie after scouting them even with a shit scout you can see their stats. You can go and watch players in action at other clubs. You have access to alot of statistics for players like their pass completion their shots to goals etc. And of course there are the scouts reports. Right now i find myself barely doing any homework on a player as i can tell purely from hard stats how good they are going to be in the game. I'm just saying take the hard stats that the game actually uses to calculate player effectiveness away from the view of the user. Have them rely on soft stats. Either way it wouldn't exactly be hard to implement from a programming point of view and theres no real impact on people who would prefer it as it stands, the stats could even be toggled during a game. I think it would reduce the playability of a game. It would literally take 90 minutes to watch a game a player you are interested in is playing in, if thats what you are suggesting. and even then, you'd be signing a player based on just one game.... could of been a good one for him or a bad one. Although i do like the idea of toggling certain stats as an option. It would be like introducing different difficulty levels.. we sort of have that now with attribute masking but it seems to be one or the other. I dont think there are enough options.... easiest option being every attribute is available... difficult could be where every attribute is hidden maybe. And thats obviously the level Sven chose before signing Matt Mills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 6 September 2012 Share Posted 6 September 2012 Just watched the press conference, and also read this... "The best-selling, most realistic football management series ever made is back and will be released before Xmas. Football Manager 2013 introduces more than 900 new features & new ways to play – the major features were announced at a recent "press conference" that you can watch below. Check http://www.footballmanager.com/ from Monday for more indepth feature videos each week" "No release date as yet, but hopefully before Christmas" "Can get through a season in 8 - 10 hours" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty78 Posted 6 September 2012 Share Posted 6 September 2012 I'm pretty sure it just means that you cannot see all of a players attributes from the start rather than hiding them permenantly. Ie after scouting them even with a shit scout you can see their stats. In the preferences (display & sound) you can change the numerical attributes to graphical ones which makes it more difficult to judge a player at a glance. When combined with attribute masking it makes it a bit more realistic. You can still guess roughly what the attributes are from the graphics though, so it is somewhere in between what you want and the normal. This is what it looks like on a non scouted player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 6 September 2012 Share Posted 6 September 2012 Just watched the press conference, and also read this... "The best-selling, most realistic football management series ever made is back and will be released before Xmas. Football Manager 2013 introduces more than 900 new features & new ways to play – the major features were announced at a recent "press conference" that you can watch below. Check http://www.footballmanager.com/ from Monday for more indepth feature videos each week" "No release date as yet, but hopefully before Christmas" "Can get through a season in 8 - 10 hours" By press conference do you mean this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 6 September 2012 Share Posted 6 September 2012 By press conference do you mean this: Yeah, saw it as soon as it was uploaded onto Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted 6 September 2012 Share Posted 6 September 2012 Available to pre-order at green man gaming for £22.50 with thr following code: GMG25-1BW0K-K1A3G. Steam download as usual... Good deal? Edit: link: http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/gb/en/pc/games/sports/football-manager-2013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 7 September 2012 Share Posted 7 September 2012 Although I always get FM and FIFA in-store the day/next morning following it's release, £22.50 does seem a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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