Martyn Waghorn

[Bluetintedspecs]

In the sense he'll score more than 9 league goals.... Here hee hee.

Those damning statistics eh Babs?

[Dr The Singh]

In the sense he'll score more than 9 league goals.... Here hee hee.

I would love the guy to prove me wrong and score 20!!!! He may have it in him, it's still early days but at this time and moment he is Humes MK II

[Babylon]

I would love the guy to prove me wrong and score 20!!!! He may have it in him, it's still early days but at this time and moment he is Humes MK II

What was Becks... Eric Odihambo MkII?

As I said in another thread, why does he need to score 20. I doubt very much Pearson brought him in thinking he will score 20. What you will get from him and Waghorn is so much more for the team. So much so that if they ended the season only on 9 goals, you know they gave so much more than that in other ways.

[Dr The Singh]

What was Becks... Eric Odihambo MkII?

As I said in another thread, why does he need to score 20. I doubt very much Pearson brought him in thinking he will score 20. What you will get from him and Waghorn is so much more for the team. So much so that if they ended the season only on 9 goals, you know they gave so much more than that in other ways.

If we had a midfield and attacking players that were abundant in scoring you maybe right. But looking at Vardys performances, he's not overly creative, nor much of a threat and is wasteful infront of goal, hard work alone, as with Hume is not going to be good enough for a play off team.

What's Becks got to do with anything, he's had his moments and has signed for a prem club in the past, it didn't work out here, as i've said, iv moved on.

[Bluetintedspecs]

What was Becks... Eric Odihambo MkII?

As I said in another thread, why does he need to score 20. I doubt very much Pearson brought him in thinking he will score 20. What you will get from him and Waghorn is so much more for the team. So much so that if they ended the season only on 9 goals, you know they gave so much more than that in other ways.

And the team ethos is so prevalent in everything that has improved this season, long may it continue .

[Bluetintedspecs]

If we had a midfield and attacking players that were abundant in scoring you maybe right. But looking at Vardys performances, he's not overly creative, nor much of a threat and is wasteful infront of goal, hard work alone, as with Hume is not going to be good enough for a play off team.

What's Becks got to do with anything, he's had his moments and has signed for a prem club in the past, it didn't work out here, as i've said, iv moved on.

Don't agree Doc the only thing that's been missing with Vardy is experience and a degree of nouse which will come IMO hisall round play has been good and he doesn't look amiss considering the step up he's made. Think he's got goals in him and he will continue improving, guess when it comes to the end of the season we can evaluate our respective opinions and certainly it's unfairly early to be writing him off!

[Dr The Singh]

Don't agree Doc the only thing that's been missing with Vardy is experience and a degree of nouse which will come IMO hisall round play has been good and he doesn't look amiss considering the step up he's made. Think he's got goals in him and he will continue improving, guess when it comes to the end of the season we can evaluate our respective opinions and certainly it's unfairly early to be writing him off!

I hope your right, I would more then happy to see the lad succeed!!

[Bluetintedspecs]

I hope your right, I would more then happy to see the lad succeed!!

I know......it's only opinions

[matt93]

I dont think Jamie Vardy has the experience of higher level football thats why he isnt scoring so its maybe a good idea to Waghorn in.

[kingfox]

Bringing up names like Eric Odihambo, makes me think of the boring and depressing times a couple of season's ago.

It makes me want to cry

[marbelladave]

I have just watched the first half against Ipswich (Foxes Player) and one thing is very obvious.

The number of times Waghorn dropped off the front to link up play were too many to count, he may not be the most creative but his linkup play was a big factor in our game. Playing like that it was like having an extra man in midfield, it gave Drinkwater, King and our back 4 another option, really helped to make it easy for them to pass out of defence.

Not getting to games at the moment but if this is how he has been playing of late then this is a big plus......

[Corky]

I have just watched the first half against Ipswich (Foxes Player) and one thing is very obvious.

The number of times Waghorn dropped off the front to link up play were too many to count, he may not be the most creative but his linkup play was a big factor in our game. Playing like that it was like having an extra man in midfield, it gave Drinkwater, King and our back 4 another option, really helped to make it easy for them to pass out of defence.

Not getting to games at the moment but if this is how he has been playing of late then this is a big plus......

Agreed. You could see how well he was linking up with the others, especially Dyer.

Despite his lack of goals you can realise why Pearson is sticking with him.

[Carl the Llama]

I dont think Jamie Vardy has the experience of higher level football thats why he isnt scoring so its maybe a good idea to Waghorn in.

I have just watched the first half against Ipswich (Foxes Player) and one thing is very obvious.

The number of times Waghorn dropped off the front to link up play were too many to count, he may not be the most creative but his linkup play was a big factor in our game. Playing like that it was like having an extra man in midfield, it gave Drinkwater, King and our back 4 another option, really helped to make it easy for them to pass out of defence.

Not getting to games at the moment but if this is how he has been playing of late then this is a big plus......

Vardy does that too though - they both play a very similar style of football.

This season's stats:

Waggy: 12 games, 1 goal, 1 assist over 586 mins

Vardy: 15 games, 4 goasl, 3 assists over 1079 mins

With Waggy's contributions both coming in the Ipswich game, there's room for the argument that he needed to get match fit. On a purely statistical basis though Vardy has more or less double the scoring rate of Waggy and 50% more assists relative to time on the pitch. Therefore my preference would still be Vardy.

[marbelladave]

Who on earth said 4-4-2 wouldn't work?........

With Waghorn dropping off and Knockaert given some licence to roam, 4-4-2 is the future.........

[marbelladave]

Vardy does that too though - they both play a very similar style of football.

This season's stats:

Waggy: 12 games, 1 goal, 1 assist over 586 mins

Vardy: 15 games, 4 goasl, 3 assists over 1079 mins

With Waggy's contributions both coming in the Ipswich game, there's room for the argument that he needed to get match fit. On a purely statistical basis though Vardy has more or less double the scoring rate of Waggy and 50% more assists relative to time on the pitch. Therefore my preference would still be Vardy.

If you are saying Vardy performs the same role that Waghorn did on saturday then I disagree entirely.

Vardy is a very hard worker and chases down the player in possession with plenty of vigour, but he does not drop into space to receive the ball like Waghorn did on saturday, no comparison really.

[5waller5]

Why is any criticism of Waghorn met so consistently with a sentence containing the words "9 goals".

Is that the only choice we have??

Waghorn or 9 goals??

[Babylon]

Why is any criticism of Waghorn met so consistently with a sentence containing the words "9 goals".

Is that the only choice we have??

Waghorn or 9 goals??

Is it really, or is this just another one of your exagerations?

[Mark_w]

Vardy does that too though - they both play a very similar style of football.

This season's stats:

Waggy: 12 games, 1 goal, 1 assist over 586 mins

Vardy: 15 games, 4 goasl, 3 assists over 1079 mins

With Waggy's contributions both coming in the Ipswich game, there's room for the argument that he needed to get match fit. On a purely statistical basis though Vardy has more or less double the scoring rate of Waggy and 50% more assists relative to time on the pitch. Therefore my preference would still be Vardy.

Personally I have no preference in terms of which I think will do a better job, I think both are good enough and would be happy with either partnering Nugent. But I'm not sure I'd read too much into those stats, there's clearly a difference between starting games and playing 60-70 minutes compared to coming on off the bench for 20-30, even taking the minutes played into account I don't think that's really a fair comparison,

[foxfanazer]

Personally I have no preference in terms of which I think will do a better job, I think both are good enough and would be happy with either partnering Nugent. But I'm not sure I'd read too much into those stats, there's clearly a difference between starting games and playing 60-70 minutes compared to coming on off the bench for 20-30, even taking the minutes played into account I don't think that's really a fair comparison,

Yeah I'd agree that they are about on par to partner Nuge at the moment

[Ric Flair]

The way I see it is Waghorn's latest improvement and return to form last seen in 2009/10 means we don't have to completely rely on Nugent. Vardy has done ok so far this season and will get better, so hopefully we now have at least 3 strikers who we can rely upon to keep us in the promotion pack.

[yorksfox]

I have yet to see Vardy play but surely when you buy a guy who banged in 40 odd goals last season you expect a finisher not just a hard worker. That said he does appear to be making a decent contribution. A friend who supports FC Halifax remembers that even in the Evo stik League 3 years ago Vardy was notorious for missing one on ones but nevertheless was still highly rated and a regular scorer of more 'difficult' goals! Nice that Waghorn might be returning to the form of 2009-10 when he was a handful for defenders.Hopefully we now have 3.strikers each capable of getting into double figures with Nugent nudging 20 or so.

[TrentFox]

I have yet to see Vardy play but surely when you buy a guy who banged in 40 odd goals last season you expect a finisher not just a hard worker. That said he does appear to be making a decent contribution. A friend who supports FC Halifax remembers that even in the Evo stik League 3 years ago Vardy was notorious for missing one on ones but nevertheless was still highly rated and a regular scorer of more 'difficult' goals! Nice that Waghorn might be returning to the form of 2009-10 when he was a handful for defenders.Hopefully we now have 3.strikers each capable of getting into double figures with Nugent nudging 20 or so.

Agree. But not just of Vardy - any striker. By definition, I expect them to be a little better at putting the ball in the net than anyone else on the pitch in other positions. Vardy is probably about to take over the "long-winded thread" mantle from Waggy, I suspect. He is now in that same category of needing some goals. Again, a bit like Waggy, his confidence over the pitch is not replicated when the ball lands at his feet in the box. I feel he is doing the classic thing strikers do when goals dry up and trying to be too precise, rather than relying on his instincts that, presumably, he must have in order to have scored so heavily previously. Like Waggy, (hopefully), a couple of goals might be a turning point. But also, like Waggy, as a striker, he cannot rely on hard-work indefinitely. I think the other factor in his favour is that, like Waggy again, NP seems to have great faith in him and hopefully that will be repaid. If we could get the two of them into some goal-scoring form, then, allied to their work-ethic, for me they would be significantly better options than delving into the loanee marrket, especially with Futacs in reserve. Trouble is, neither are actually in great goal-scoring form yet, hence the protracted debate.

[Corky]

Personally I have no preference in terms of which I think will do a better job, I think both are good enough and would be happy with either partnering Nugent. But I'm not sure I'd read too much into those stats, there's clearly a difference between starting games and playing 60-70 minutes compared to coming on off the bench for 20-30, even taking the minutes played into account I don't think that's really a fair comparison,

"But you love Waghorn and think he is the best ever as I say to you virtually every post I make, even if it has nothing to do with Waghorn I still like to mention it", said kingfox.

[Babylon]

"But you love Waghorn and think he is the best ever as I say to you virtually every post I make, even if it has nothing to do with Waghorn I still like to mention it", said kingfox.

[Guesty]

If any of you have Twitter, Waghorns doing a Q & A at 12:45 on the official Leicester twitter. If you don't have twitter but are interested to see his answers, the City site is @officialFOXES. I can't imagine it will be anything in depth though, more like: 'Martyn whats your favourite colour and will you give me a re-tweet'. But you never know.