Col city fan Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 It would appear that Pearson has had two main objectives so far this season. Firstly, to get the team playing better... by all accounts he seems to be moving in the right direction in this respect. But also, to slim down the squad, in terms of wages, in preparation for FFP. Given this, I don't apologise by bringing up Beckford once more. Allegedly (I don't profess to know the figures), Beckford is now our top wage earner. Perhaps by a sizeable amount? Does Jermaine therefore represent value for money? Are we correct to continue to play him, in favour of Futacs and Waghorn for example, or is it now time to be moving Beckford on. The rumours were that we tried to do this on transfer deadline day, but it didn't happen for whatever reason. Personally, I still can't see how Beckford represents 'value for money'...having seen him play a few times this season. I was willing to give him a chance but I think my heart maybe ruled my head? This is only my opinion, whats yours? Should we keep Beckford, play him, pay him? or is it time to give the others a go? Opinions please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Can we have a third option of "he never represented anything approaching value for money in the first place"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Shit Poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 He will go imo the loan window opens this Friday coming and I don't expect him to stay here unless NP wants him, but if he does go I expect us to bring in another forward because we need competition in that area and goals ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simmo86 Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Shit Poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 No offence Col but this has been debated to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 He'll never represent value for money unless he scores 30 this year but I wouldnt let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 2 September 2012 Author Share Posted 2 September 2012 No offence Col but this has been debated to death. I know that mate, I genuinely do. I think its a more important question now it would appear he's not first choice striker. In terms of value for money, we are paying a player allegedly big wages to warm the bench, at least at the moment. We've also seen him play now in four games this season, and pre-season. So I thought i'd ask the question again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 There needs to be a "he's not value for money, but I'll stick by him for now just in case he comes good..." choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Always been a Beckford fan but I think this week we have turned a corner looks like he has expressed a desire to leave and played shockingly yesterday, taken this into account I think we should be starting with Vardy and Nugent as they want to play for the club and maybe a loan or sale will be the best thing all round. Shame because he has got some real talent but he's slipped down the pecking order now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 This again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 It would appear that Pearson has had two main objectives so far this season. Firstly, to get the team playing better... by all accounts he seems to be moving in the right direction in this respect. But also, to slim down the squad, in terms of wages, in preparation for FFP. Given this, I don't apologise by bringing up Beckford once more. Allegedly (I don't profess to know the figures), Beckford is now our top wage earner. Perhaps by a sizeable amount? Does Jermaine therefore represent value for money? Are we correct to continue to play him, in favour of Futacs and Waghorn for example, or is it now time to be moving Beckford on. The rumours were that we tried to do this on transfer deadline day, but it didn't happen for whatever reason. Personally, I still can't see how Beckford represents 'value for money'...having seen him play a few times this season. I was willing to give him a chance but I think my heart maybe ruled my head? This is only my opinion, whats yours? Should we keep Beckford, play him, pay him? or is it time to give the others a go? Opinions please... One of Pearson's problems and strengths is that he has the flexibility of a cast iron rod. That's fine if he has the right personalities in his squad (I'm sure in an ideal world he could assemble a bunch of robots that would'nt ask a question ) in the real world though, managers will inheret players that need special care. Think Max Gradel comin through the youth setup. It was obvious that we had unearthed a gem and it was painful to watch him go so cheaply to Leeds. Nigel was too stubborn to let Max blossom. Jeff "nice guy" Schlupp though is the perfect NP personality and he will be successful at our club. A lot of the top players are often volatile and complex. Think Tevez. Tame these players and keep large squads happy - this I believe is what makes a top manager. Going back to Beckford. There's no denying he's a goal scorer and quality. The big question is, will he ever be compatible with Pearson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 One of Pearson's problems and strengths is that he has the flexibility of a cast iron rod. That's fine if he has the right personalities in his squad (I'm sure in an ideal world he could assemble a bunch of robots that would'nt ask a question ) in the real world though, managers will inheret players that need special care. Think Max Gradel comin through the youth setup. It was obvious that we had unearthed a gem and it was painful to watch him go so cheaply to Leeds. Nigel was too stubborn to let Max blossom. Jeff "nice guy" Schlupp though is the perfect NP personality and he will be successful at our club. Sorry but where does all this stuff about Gradel come from? The lad was massively inconsistent with us even in league one. He was probably worth a place on the bench at least, but we sent him out to get experience. There's no denying he's a goal scorer and quality. Oh there is. The big question is, will he ever be compatible with Pearson? The big question is not that, it's is he good enough and does he offer enough when he's not playing one of his 10 good games a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 He's not value for money. Was never value for money. Was a panic buy in the last few minutes of deadline day. Got paid far too much in wages. His work rate is suspect. He can have a good game then turn in a bad one a few days later. He has an eye for goal, but his eye wanders at times, quite where who knows. Fans like Col dont like him and would rather see him gone. He now probably has the hump as we pissed him around on deadline day. All in all he needs to move on for everyone's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 have not seen futacs Play, but would no way pick waghorn over beckford, as for "is beckford value for money"? No (my opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 have not seen futacs Play, but would no way pick waghorn over beckford, as for "is beckford value for money"? No (my opinion) I have, in the week. Futacs is a lump with a decent finish. However when he came on we totally forgot we had a midfield and just lumped everything to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 I have, in the week. Futacs is a lump with a decent finish. However when he came on we totally forgot we had a midfield and just lumped everything to him. Think the time has come to get rid of beckford, but only if we have a decent replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueBrett Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Beckford just isn't very good. Shit touch, makes poor decisions, below average finisher, not that quick, not that good in the air, no skills and can hardly be said to put a shift in and play for the team. Really don't understand where the 'Beckford has undoubted quality' line comes from. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he scores more than a dozen goals this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Decent replacement,? Beckford offers little anyway so it wont be hard replacing him. I think he knows he isnt wanted (huddersfield move which fell through) so I cant see the point in playing him at all. Its an embarrassment for Pearson, he would gladly let Beckford leave but if not, then he's in the team??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Can we have a third option of "he never represented anything approaching value for money in the first place"? No the third option should be "get rid of beckford for a decent replacement" because it dosnt look like our reserves at the minute are good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 I think it looks like Pearson would like to replace him, rather than just offload him. There were rumours that we missed out on Harry Kane, and that could have been why we couldn't let Beckford leave. There were also rumours that we tried to sign Adam Le Fondre from Reading, and they told us to wait until the loan window opens. Anyone worried that Schlupp and Waghorn aren't good enough to cover Vardy and Nugent needn't be - there could well be a striker coming in should Beckford leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 Won't be crying over his departure, certainly think we will need a replacement barring our front 2 the rest of our forwards aren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniethebolt Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 I very rarely post and enjoy all your banter but all i read is post after post of beckford this beckford that and its the same old ground, can we not move on and focus on the team and not individuals. He is not in form but is clearly going to contribute big wage or not. If he hits form and scores some vital goals against big teams we will all be delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 2 September 2012 Share Posted 2 September 2012 One of Pearson's problems and strengths is that he has the flexibility of a cast iron rod. That's fine if he has the right personalities in his squad (I'm sure in an ideal world he could assemble a bunch of robots that would'nt ask a question ) in the real world though, managers will inheret players that need special care. Think Max Gradel comin through the youth setup. It was obvious that we had unearthed a gem and it was painful to watch him go so cheaply to Leeds. Nigel was too stubborn to let Max blossom. Jeff "nice guy" Schlupp though is the perfect NP personality and he will be successful at our club. A lot of the top players are often volatile and complex. Think Tevez. Tame these players and keep large squads happy - this I believe is what makes a top manager. Going back to Beckford. There's no denying he's a goal scorer and quality. The big question is, will he ever be compatible with Pearson? I disagree with your assessment of np he has shown a lot of flexibility this season and has completely changed his ethos, we now play fast attacking football on the ground and looking to get in behind the defence. This is what people meant by playing to Beckford's strengths. You could argue he has built a team to get the best out of Becks. But he hasn't scored and hasn't looked like scoring. I will still support Beckford, but when he has a chance like yesterday and performs as he did I can't defend him to people that don't think he deserves to be here especially on the wages he is reported to be on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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