davieG Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 Well it doesn't make him sound too clever then does it, Haven't heard it but all these people coming out of the woodwork saying they knew it was happening should look at themselves and ask why they didn't say something sooner.
Leicfox Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 So is everyone going to stop paying the licence fee?
Rincewind Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 http://order-order.com/2012/10/16/former-child-star-jimmy-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/
Guesty Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 I heard about the necrophilia thing when this all kicked off, apparently thats why he used to volunteer to be a porter in the hospital, so he could take dead bodies to morgue.
Daggers Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 http://order-order.c...of-the-iceberg/ A den of morons.
Tielemans63 Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 If he could only see himself now.... ....he'd probably crack one out.
Jon the Hat Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 The attempt to write every available nonsense story into their conspiracy bullshit makes it all too neat. In real life the loose ends are never tidy.
flowwolf Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 It appears to me that Savile led his debauched life without any fear of being exposed for what he was simply by his knowledge of what others had and were still doing. It was his own personal insurance. Fifty odd years at the top of entertainment and charity work buys you a lot of personal knowledge about other celebrities peccadilloes not to mention police and others in authority. His tactic was simple " we are not going to hurt each other are we" ? No one was ever going to expose him while he was alive he knew too much and would probably have taken down the B.B.C and half the establishment with him. People are squirming as we speak and must be ringing each other up to keep the lid on this vile dirty little underworld . They are going to close ranks and we will never know the extent of this moral corruption in show business simply because they have the power of blackmail over others.
Captain... Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 So is everyone going to stop paying the licence fee? Not going to give them another penny until I get felt up by a dead celebrity.
yorkie1999 Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 Further evidence that somethings not quite right!
Guesty Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 Something else I read about Savile was he was friends with a former Prime Minister who used to be into similair stuff - can't put which Prime Minster but It's not hard to find on the net Obviously you take all the stuff you read with a pinch of salt when its conspiracy theories but maybe this is all linked and Savile was the tip of the iceberg. http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-20070093
21st Century Fox Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 Something else I read about Savile was he was friends with a former Prime Minister who used to be into similair stuff - can't put which Prime Minster but It's not hard to find on the net Obviously you take all the stuff you read with a pinch of salt when its conspiracy theories but maybe this is all linked and Savile was the tip of the iceberg. http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-20070093 They may have already been mentioned David Cameron said it was a "very difficult and complex case" and he was "not entirely sure" which former prime minister Mr Watson was referring to. I find this hard to believe.
Webbo Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 I'm pretty sure you can't liable/slander a dead person. I don't know why the press is being so coy. I assume we are talking about Ted Heath?
21st Century Fox Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 I'm pretty sure you can't liable/slander a dead person. I don't know why the press is being so coy. I assume we are talking about Ted Heath? I'd assume so. I would have thought that it's something to do with the massive political repercussions it could have for the government and the tory party. I don't think it's just the tories involved in this though. I'm still not entirely convinced it wasn't all a smear campaign against homosexuals of the time but sadly the allegations have come from the same pool the Savile ones did and the more and more comes out about him it sort of drags the rest closer to being public allegations and not just urban myths. This all needs to be proved though.
Guesty Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 I'm pretty sure you can't liable/slander a dead person. I don't know why the press is being so coy. I assume we are talking about Ted Heath? The look on Cameron's face was a picture. Even if its not Heath who he's talking about it's still going to be very bad for the repuation of politics. He seems to be alleging the police covered it up. You would never make this statement at PMQ's unless you were sure and had cast iron evidence - unless you're an utter fool. If it is him just imagine the uproar - who knew and didn't say anything - everything thats been swept under the carpet. It will be like the BBC scandal but 50 times worse. The press would need iron-cast evidence which I doubt they have or if they do they're going to look bad for supressing it which might explain the coyness. The expenses scandel could seem insignificant in comparision.
Webbo Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 Ted heath was PM 40 years ago so I don't think it should necessarily reflect on the current parties, always assuming it has stopped . The Liberal leader of the time Jeremy Thorpe was involved in a gay sex/ attempted murder trial that he was cleared of but it was widely felt at the time that the judge was overly sympathetic towards him. There are rumours about the late Liberal MP Cyril Smith and a former local labour MP was named in a paedophile trial 10 or 15 years ago. I've never been one for conspiracy theories but who knows, maybe there is a paedophile ring at the heart of govt?
sphericalfox Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 If the Tories try to use this as their long waited sledgehammer to try to take the BBC apart, then I feel the backlash will be immense. Objectivity will go out the window.
Guest MattP Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 It always baffled me how the BBC behaved towards the Tories under Blair and Brown, it was almost like they never thought the blues were going to get near power again. The license fee is glorified extortion anyway and should be gone. Incredible how they managed it for so long without being questioned.
MooseBreath Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 Ted heath was PM 40 years ago so I don't think it should necessarily reflect on the current parties, always assuming it has stopped . The Liberal leader of the time Jeremy Thorpe was involved in a gay sex/ attempted murder trial that he was cleared of but it was widely felt at the time that the judge was overly sympathetic towards him. There are rumours about the late Liberal MP Cyril Smith and a former local labour MP was named in a paedophile trial 10 or 15 years ago. I've never been one for conspiracy theories but who knows, maybe there is a paedophile ring at the heart of govt? Probably is in the labour party. I can well imagine Ed Miliband performed certain favours for the likes of Gordon Brown. That's probably why he always sports that ill looking grimmace, he can't get the taste from his mouth
THEFATBASTARD Posted 24 October 2012 Posted 24 October 2012 Whats the difference between jimmy savile and a greyhound ? the greyhound waits for a hare to come....
accessory Posted 25 October 2012 Posted 25 October 2012 Ted heath was PM 40 years ago so I don't think it should necessarily reflect on the current parties, always assuming it has stopped . The Liberal leader of the time Jeremy Thorpe was involved in a gay sex/ attempted murder trial that he was cleared of but it was widely felt at the time that the judge was overly sympathetic towards him. There are rumours about the late Liberal MP Cyril Smith and a former local labour MP was named in a paedophile trial 10 or 15 years ago. I've never been one for conspiracy theories but who knows, maybe there is a paedophile ring at the heart of govt? The Labour MP (who is still alive and active in politics) was named in open court during the Frank Beck trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Beck_(sex_offender) Beck (who served two terms as a Liberal councillor!) alleged that the MP not only knew about the paedophile rings in county children's homes, but was an active participant in them. However no evidence was ever found or produced to back up these claims. Two years after his conviction, Beck died of a heart attack in prison at the age of 52. Inevitable conspiracy theories followed, but these too have never been backed up with solid evidence. I have my suspicions on who the alleged paedo-protecting prime minister might be (and it's NOT Ted Heath). I hope and trust that if allegations emerge, as they have done in the Savile case, they will be pursued and investigated with the same depth and rigour that the individual's party is currently demanding of the BBC.
Vacamion Posted 25 October 2012 Posted 25 October 2012 I find it all a bit sad that just because Ted Heath was what used to be known as a "confirmed bachelor", he gets smeared with suggestions he was a kiddy fiddler. It all seems a bit homophobic. Suggesting that homosexual men are after young boys belongs in the days when we called them "bummers" and they were ashamed of it. Not cool.
flowwolf Posted 25 October 2012 Posted 25 October 2012 I find it all a bit sad that just because Ted Heath was what used to be known as a "confirmed bachelor", he gets smeared with suggestions he was a kiddy fiddler. It all seems a bit homophobic. Suggesting that homosexual men are after young boys belongs in the days when we called them "bummers" and they were ashamed of it. Not cool. Yes of course because lots of Heterosexual men bum little boys don't they ?
21st Century Fox Posted 25 October 2012 Posted 25 October 2012 Yes of course because lots of Heterosexual men bum little boys don't they ? I don't think that was his point. Homosexuals were often lumped in with pedophiles because they were both seen as unsavoury, so if you were gay you must be into small boys as well, which clearly isn't true.
Reynard Bleu Posted 25 October 2012 Posted 25 October 2012 I don't think that was his point. Homosexuals were often lumped in with pedophiles because they were both seen as unsavoury, so if you were gay you must be into small boys as well, which clearly isn't true. Not just seen as unsavoury, Homosexual relations were also illegal until about 1967 in England & Wales, Scotland in 1980 and NI in 1982.
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