RumbleFox Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 Wow, what poetry. That is Wildesque in it's wit. You sound a smashing chap. X
5waller5 Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 Yes he is an improvement on the Beckford turning out for us, because Beckford was everything you just mentioned without the "Hume like effort". Oh and the small fact it took him until the 1st of Feb to score THREE league goals. His fourth didn't come until the 3rd of March a whopping 26 games. Errr we were top with him in the team and we are 4th with him in the team... so how do you work that out exactly? Maybe you've made his point for him there??
5waller5 Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 Maybe you've made his point for him there?? And before you start I'm only making that point as it made me smile that you'd done that .... not because i rate or don't rate Vardy - I think he needs more time to bed in.
Carl the Llama Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 And before you start I'm only making that point as it made me smile that you'd done that .... not because i rate or don't rate Vardy - I think he needs more time to bed in. But you think Waggy's a lost cause? Christ on a stick.
5waller5 Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 But you think Waggy's a lost cause? Christ on a stick. Yeah absolutely. I've seen enough of Vardy making a step up to think that he can keep improving and be an asset. I've seen 3 and a half season's of Waggy and that's enough for me Thanks!!!
5waller5 Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 Vardy Scored 3 goals by 19th September - Beckford took until 1st Feb. Nugent scored 9 goals by the 17th November - Last year it took him until 23rd Jan. Now personally I would say that's an improvement, would you not? Of course you can say the midfield have contributed to that. But they still had to score em. I'm not saying what we have is great, and I've constantly said if money is available to buy some real quality then we should definitely do so. But we are only 5 and 6 goals of what first and second currently have. Last year we were 9 goals and 16 goals off what the top two were scoring. The way people go on you would think we were utterly dreadful, which is just unfair because we aren't. Our main striker is on coarse for 20 league goals this season. That's what everyone wanted, now it seems we should have two of them as a minimum doing that. We're not dreadful .... we are lacking another goalscorer apart from Nuge ...... I don't think that's glaringly obvious in the stats, it's just glaringly obvious with your eyes .... We tear teams apart and don't have the end product (a goal) that we deserve..... we are playing well enough to be top - we're not putting chances away and that's why we aren't.
Tommy G Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 He's scored 3 in 16 and that's a fact. At this rate he will be woefully short of Beckfords tally last season and we all know how much stick he got! Time to cut losses while we still can. We won't go up playing him, be KS back in Jan for me or sign a couple of new strikers
stillwater Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 Send the lad out on loan a spell in league 1 would help him get his confidence back. Otherwise he is going to end up being made the scape goat for everything that goes wrong. Said when we signed him that we would need to give him a lot of time to get used to this level of football.
Dr The Singh Posted 30 November 2012 Posted 30 November 2012 Give the guy some time!! I doubt there will be many clubs interested in loaning him, even in L1. Nige will have to look in the market and bolster the attack!!
fleckneymike Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Vardy just isn't very good unfortunately. He runs about, but in terms of basic technique (control, vision, movement, touch) he is currently well off the required standard for this level of football. If the fee is really £1m then I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a little bit more from him in terms of performance. When you consider that the strike duo of Vardy and Waghorn cost a combined fee of some £4m (reported) then we should be more of a threat in front of goal but between them they've had 41 shots and scored just 4 goals in 38 appearances, that just isn't good enough.
cc_star Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Vardy just isn't very good unfortunately. He runs about, but in terms of basic technique (control, vision, movement, touch) he is currently well off the required standard for this level of football. If the fee is really £1m then I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a little bit more from him in terms of performance. When you consider that the strike duo of Vardy and Waghorn cost a combined fee of some £4m (reported) then we should be more of a threat in front of goal but between them they've had 41 shots and scored just 4 goals in 38 appearances, that just isn't good enough. Bullshit. At his absolute worst, he facilitates those aorund him to play better. Could perhaps be a bit more selfish, as shown by the 2nd Vs Derby where he tapped it for Waggy to score, many forwards would have shot themselves despite not being as well placed as someone else. His continued great teamwork & a bit of support from fans, will see his confidence rise and the goals his play so often deserves will come. Of course most of the ridiculous criticism came in light of a defeat where the wholew team weren't really at the race... people on this board are generally arseholes, in that regard - we are not going to win every game
fleckneymike Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Bullshit. At his absolute worst, he facilitates those aorund him to play better. Could perhaps be a bit more selfish, as shown by the 2nd Vs Derby where he tapped it for Waggy to score, many forwards would have shot themselves despite not being as well placed as someone else. His continued great teamwork & a bit of support from fans, will see his confidence rise and the goals his play so often deserves will come. Of course most of the ridiculous criticism came in light of a defeat where the wholew team weren't really at the race... people on this board are generally arseholes, in that regard - we are not going to win every game It's not bullshit. His touch is poor as is his decision making. I hardly think that is an outrageous criticism and I do expect more for a million pounds. We played well before they wen't 3 in the middle, then when we went 3 in the middle late in the second half we improved and scored twice, to facilitate that we had to remove one of the front two and again I don't think its unfair to say Vardy is well below the standard of Waghorn.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Good setup for Waggy's goal today. And although he's not scoring too many himself, he does add to the team with assists and tires out defences. Could be a bit more selfish but I think he'll click with a bit more time at this level
Fez of Mahrez Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Brilliant assist for Waghorn's goal today.
I blame Wellens Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Some of you really have no idea. Vardy looked like school boy today. Chasing the ball around the pitch with no success at all. I don't think I've ever seen such a lightweight up front for us he just seems to bounce of players. I actually feel sorry for him it is clear he is playing two leagues above his ability. I wish him well but sadly I don't think he has much of a future at our club. A poor signing that will be replaced in the transfer window. Nugent is a legend! Great to have him back.
Unabomber Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Vardy just isn't very good unfortunately. He runs about, but in terms of basic technique (control, vision, movement, touch) he is currently well off the required standard for this level of football. If the fee is really £1m then I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a little bit more from him in terms of performance. When you consider that the strike duo of Vardy and Waghorn cost a combined fee of some £4m (reported) then we should be more of a threat in front of goal but between them they've had 41 shots and scored just 4 goals in 38 appearances, that just isn't good enough. almost as bad a shout as dom joly in a cinema
5waller5 Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 almost as bad a shout as dom joly in a cinema I don't get it
Unabomber Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 I don't get it me neither tbf, few too many brews i think
Bluetintedspecs Posted 1 December 2012 Posted 1 December 2012 Vardy show some quality and is still learning at this level. NP is pleased with what he brings to the team and is convinced he will add goals and so am I. To crucify the lad at this point is very unfair and shortsighted IMO.
BunkMoreland Posted 2 December 2012 Posted 2 December 2012 I was pretty pessimistic when we signed him so I'm not surprised by how he has done so far. To be fair he seems a decent enough back up striker at the moment though. With Waghorn playing well, if we bring in a new striker in Jan then vardy will slip to fourth in the pecking order. He is not bad for a fourth choice striker.
I blame Wellens Posted 2 December 2012 Posted 2 December 2012 Vardy show some quality and is still learning at this level. NP is pleased with what he brings to the team and is convinced he will add goals and so am I. To crucify the lad at this point is very unfair and shortsighted IMO. No not crucify him, just admitting his rather limited capabilities at this level. It is clear that he has too far to come. Infact rather than being shortsighted I am looking in to the future and Pearson I think knows he's made a mistake with this one. I wish Vardy well but he will make no impact for us. League 2 and League 1 at a push.
ACF Posted 2 December 2012 Posted 2 December 2012 Those comparing Beckford to Vardy. One came from the Premier League with reports of serious attitude problems and on a huge wedge. The other has come from the Conference, on less of a wage, and is working hard, and before his injury looked decent.
breadandcheese Posted 2 December 2012 Posted 2 December 2012 I'm still in the give him time category. Whilst Nugent is clearly our best striker, We've seen enough in Vardy to suggest he has ability but probably does need a bit more patience as he gets used to the step up in quality. Another assist yesterday shows he is playing is part and helping us push for promotion.
Blueblood1989 Posted 2 December 2012 Posted 2 December 2012 I think we are the wrong club for him he needs to be playing for a middle of the road club where he can develop. With us hes not going to have enough time, our ambitions sadly outway his talent.
foxfanazer Posted 2 December 2012 Posted 2 December 2012 I think we are the wrong club for him he needs to be playing for a middle of the road club where he can develop. With us hes not going to have enough time, our ambitions sadly outway his talent. unfortunately I agree I really like the lad though, honest and hardworking and can sometimes look really creative but we bought him for his scoring record imo. Would like to see him given a bit more time tbh
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