Vardy?

[deep blue]

Actually "at this rate" we will finish fourth. But hey lets just over react and find a new scape goat for a loss.

Last year people were bumming our striking options and we were midtable, this year people are slating them yet we are higher up the league.

Vardy has much to learn and it's a big step up clearly. Personally I thought the lad was doing absolutely fine before his injury and illness in quick succession. The lad had scored three league goals in his first 8 games for us (29th September). A feat that a certain striker still bummed to this day by people actually rubbishing Vardy took 21 games (1st Feb) to reach.

Would I sign another Striker come Jan. Well if we have the money available and there is a player of sufficient quality up for sale that will improve us then of course.

I agree with this. I thought if his 2nd hadn't been disallowed at Blackburn then he might have gone on to get a hattrick, and his confidence would have soared.

Even so, I thought that during the international break he would be able to assess his start, be happy with it, and come back after it with more confidence to score. Then the illness/injury messed everything up and he's had to wait to get back in. His confidence has taken a knock. He's struggling.

I'm convinced he'll come good eventually, but I do agree with other posters that we maybe can't wait long enough and need to get in another goal-scorer, ideally a poacher type (we have plenty of crossing ability in the side). I'm glad I don't have the responsibility of weighing up all these options for real but can leave it in the safe hands of NP.

[kingfox]

The way people are talking, we might as well get rid of all our strikers at this rate, apart from Nuge.

Vardy - Not good enough for this league, loan him out, SHUT UP

Waghorn - He is back, oh no he isn't he has gone shit again, SHUT UP

Futacs - His agent said he is off, and after one appearance people called him shit- SHUT UP

Who would you guys prefer, how about a thug front two of Marlon King and Troy Deeney?

[Babylon]

Who would you guys prefer, how about a thug front two of Marlon King and Troy Deeney?

Personally as with the team, I just wanted an improvement on what we had before. And frankly he has been in every way up until now, along with the rest of them.

The problem is peoples expectations have now shot up. We've gone from lots of people writing off a top six finish, let alone a top two finish before the season started. To seemingly expecting a top two finish, and any player not performing heroics being shown the door.

Gradual improvement is fine with me.

[kingfox]

Personally as with the team, I just wanted an improvement on what we had before. And frankly he has been in every way up until now, along with the rest of them.

The problem is peoples expectations have now shot up. We've gone from lots of people writing off a top six finish, let alone a top two finish before the season started. To seemingly expecting a top two finish, and any player not performing heroics being shown the door.

Gradual improvement is fine with me.

I get pretty fed up, whenever we lose a game people always find faults, think we won't get promoted, that we will be on the slide before long and players like Vardy aren't good enough for this league.

And as soon as we win, they then say the opposite, and jump back on the promotion bandwagon.

Some fans on this forum are too hesitant and really need to get a grip.

[_Fatboyslow_]

The problem is peoples expectations have now shot up. We've gone from lots of people writing off a top six finish, let alone a top two finish before the season started. To seemingly expecting a top two finish, and any player not performing heroics being shown the door.

Gradual improvement is fine with me.

[lcfcsnow]

Personally as with the team, I just wanted an improvement on what we had before. And frankly he has been in every way up until now, along with the rest of them.

No, as a footballer Vardy is not an improvement on Beckford. From what I've seen his touch is worse (somehow), goals per game is worse (3 in 16), devoid of confidence, no link up play (rarely in the game), poor finishing, couldn't even control the ball from a throw in last night. He offers a Hume like effort but his overall ability is not there. Now we're either deploying him wrongly and not playing him in his correct position as he looks nothing like the out an out striker we're asking him to be, or he desperately needs a loan in league 1 or 2. We will just drift further from those automatic spots if he continues to start games. And no, I don't want Beckford back we need a genuine improvement.

Our striking options are abysmal for a team aiming for promotion.

[Happy Fox]

NP's remit is to get us automatic promotion this season not my words but his and the club's owners aspiration. We are short of a striking option, their are plenty of good championship strikers out their at teams that have been promoted but are now surplus to requirements such as Steve Morison, Fraizer Campbell etc

[Kitchandro]

Personally as with the team, I just wanted an improvement on what we had before. And frankly he has been in every way up until now, along with the rest of them.

The problem is peoples expectations have now shot up. We've gone from lots of people writing off a top six finish, let alone a top two finish before the season started. To seemingly expecting a top two finish, and any player not performing heroics being shown the door.

Gradual improvement is fine with me.

The thing is though, if the whole team was gradually improving Vardy would not stand out as not being good enough as much. As it happens the midfield is a drastic improvement on last season, and the defence, despite some shaky games, has kept 8 clean sheets, and also looks much better than last season.

The strike force however, has not improved at the same rate, I'd argue it hasn't improved at all, and is an obvious weakness if you ask me. We have wasted numerous chances when we've been on top in some games and that has cost us points. I'm not saying that was the major problem last night, but in general it's my biggest concern.

I understand what you're saying about expectations shooting up, and when the team in general is so obviously much more promising than it was, our weaknesses, though not catastrophic, will stand out more. But I'd find it frustrating if we continued to wait for gradual improvement in one area of the pitch when the rest of the team were making such rapid progress. Personally, I'd find it a bit sickening if a lack of a quality finisher was the difference between success and failure (harsh word I know, but promotion could be so important this season).

[Danno]

Vardy played on the left of a 4-3-3 for Fleetwood and cut in on his right foot to score most of his goals.

[Gubbins]

Yes it is a big jump from non league to championship and who knows maybe he will improve with time but lets say we achieve our goal of getting promotion this season (and itl have to be through the play-offs if we dont get another striker in). Can anyone seriously see Vardy cutting it in the Premier League?? It would be Akinbiyi all over again, and thats assuming he plays well!

[Manwell Pablo]

Yes it is a big jump from non league to championship and who knows maybe he will improve with time but lets say we achieve our goal of getting promotion this season (and itl have to be through the play-offs if we dont get another striker in). Can anyone seriously see Vardy cutting it in the Premier League?? It would be Akinbiyi all over again, and thats assuming he plays well!

This is not the issue and your getting ahead yourself. Can worry about that if it happens.

Unfortuantly loaning anyone else out is probably a bad idea until January, when if we want automatic promotion I think we need to sign someone else. Current crop might do enough to get us the play offs if we can keep Nugent on form and fit for the majority of the season.

As it's been it is excellent to see the improvement in the team as a whole espeically in the midfield, it's clear where we need to add though.

Vardy doesn't seem good enough for the Championship from what I've seen so far he does look cumbersome on the ball and doesn't seem to have much of a touch. However he must know where the goal is given his scoring record and hopefully he'll do something to prove me wrong soon.

[Dan]

The way people are talking, we might as well get rid of all our strikers at this rate, apart from Nuge.

Vardy - Not good enough for this league, loan him out, SHUT UP

Waghorn - He is back, oh no he isn't he has gone shit again, SHUT UP

Futacs - His agent said he is off, and after one appearance people called him shit- SHUT UP

Who would you guys prefer, how about a thug front two of Marlon King and Troy Deeney?

Good point, obviously if we sign a new forward he's automatically a thug, how inconsiderate of us all.

[Bettsj2]

Yes and as i said we will do well to reach the play-offs.

Now I can understand blind faith and i know we are better placed than last season but we still lack quality that will get us promoted.

No one is a scapegoat but forgive me if i dont think they are good enough.

We dont lack the quality to get us promoted. We lack the quality to keep us in the Prem.

[Happy Fox]

Who cares about the prem when we get their we can worry about what players we need. Now in this present time we need a striker to score the goals alongside Nugent as Vardy and Waghorn aren't going to get a sufficient amount imo

[MPH]

This is not the issue and your getting ahead yourself. Can worry about that if it happens.

Unfortuantly loaning anyone else out is probably a bad idea until January, when if we want automatic promotion I think we need to sign someone else. Current crop might do enough to get us the play offs if we can keep Nugent on form and fit for the majority of the season.

As it's been it is excellent to see the improvement in the team as a whole espeically in the midfield, it's clear where we need to add though.

Vardy doesn't seem good enough for the Championship from what I've seen so far he does look cumbersome on the ball and doesn't seem to have much of a touch. However he must know where the goal is given his scoring record and hopefully he'll do something to prove me wrong soon.

I think you pick up on an interesting point the progression and improvement in the midfield is there for all to see.

However that there is the issue we have with Vardy. He's a grafter there's no denying that but I think people were hoping and expecting for him to kick on from his positive start. Like you said others have done it...but its beginning to look like he has made a step too far...

[Legend_in_blue]

We need another CB as much as we need another ST imo.

The problem with the striker issue is that unless silly money is spent in January, it won't happen.

[MPH]

We need another CB as much as we need another ST imo.

The problem with the striker issue is that unless silly money is spent in January, it won't happen.

Haven't we had like 2 clean sheets in the last 3 games? With Leeds only getting a soft penalty?

[shade]

I still don't think we create great chances, I can't remember the last decent defence splitting pass to leave a striker one on one.

[Guest]

He's not quite good enough for this level unfortunately.

He was a gamble and it hasn't paid off.

bollox.

He's a good player.

Formed a good understanding with Nuge before he got injured and is only now coming back to find that Nuge has transformed into Waggers.

Once Nuge and Vardy get a dozen games under their belt together they'll be the best strike partnership in the league.

Vardy is a little too unslefish at times but his movement is great.

[Babylon]

No, as a footballer Vardy is not an improvement on Beckford. From what I've seen his touch is worse (somehow), goals per game is worse (3 in 16), devoid of confidence, no link up play (rarely in the game), poor finishing, couldn't even control the ball from a throw in last night. He offers a Hume like effort but his overall ability is not there. Now we're either deploying him wrongly and not playing him in his correct position as he looks nothing like the out an out striker we're asking him to be, or he desperately needs a loan in league 1 or 2. We will just drift further from those automatic spots if he continues to start games. And no, I don't want Beckford back we need a genuine improvement.

Our striking options are abysmal for a team aiming for promotion.

Yes he is an improvement on the Beckford turning out for us, because Beckford was everything you just mentioned without the "Hume like effort". Oh and the small fact it took him until the 1st of Feb to score THREE league goals. His fourth didn't come until the 3rd of March a whopping 26 games.

We will just drift further from those automatic spots if he continues to start games.

Our striking options are abysmal for a team aiming for promotion.

Errr we were top with him in the team and we are 4th with him in the team... so how do you work that out exactly?

[Babylon]

The strike force however, has not improved at the same rate, I'd argue it hasn't improved at all,

Vardy Scored 3 goals by 19th September - Beckford took until 1st Feb.

Nugent scored 9 goals by the 17th November - Last year it took him until 23rd Jan.

Now personally I would say that's an improvement, would you not? Of course you can say the midfield have contributed to that. But they still had to score em.

I'm not saying what we have is great, and I've constantly said if money is available to buy some real quality then we should definitely do so. But we are only 5 and 6 goals of what first and second currently have. Last year we were 9 goals and 16 goals off what the top two were scoring.

The way people go on you would think we were utterly dreadful, which is just unfair because we aren't. Our main striker is on coarse for 20 league goals this season. That's what everyone wanted, now it seems we should have two of them as a minimum doing that.

[lovelcfc]

Like many people have said his workrate is impressive, but so far he doesn't look nearly good enough, his first touch isn't great, and tbh his strenth is suppose to be putting the ball in the back of the net, think about the amount of chances he's missed, how many goals he could of scored of course every striker needs confidents of course, whenever i've seen futacs come on, you can see that's he's got something, well to me anyway, whenever ive seen vardy he looks way out of his depth to me, really hope I'm proved wrong as I really want him to do well

[Corky]

I'll give him a season.

Did the same with Beckford, so it's only fair.

[Carl the Llama]

I'll give him a season.

Did the same with Beckford, so it's only fair.

Seems you've given becks a bit more than a season...

[RumbleFox]

Vardy Scored 3 goals by 19th September - Beckford took until 1st Feb.

Nugent scored 9 goals by the 17th November - Last year it took him until 23rd Jan.

Now personally I would say that's an improvement, would you not? Of course you can say the midfield have contributed to that. But they still had to score em.

I'm not saying what we have is great, and I've constantly said if money is available to buy some real quality then we should definitely do so. But we are only 5 and 6 goals of what first and second currently have. Last year we were 9 goals and 16 goals off what the top two were scoring.

The way people go on you would think we were utterly dreadful, which is just unfair because we aren't. Our main striker is on coarse for 20 league goals this season. That's what everyone wanted, now it seems we should have two of them as a minimum doing that.

Good post babylon. Jesus reading this thread you'd have thought we were playing a small goat up front? He was doing very well before his unjury. Infact I think he was a big part in our early success. Has struggled since coming back but give the lad time.

Vardeh Vardeh Vardeh!

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