nickyboy Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 As mentioned before SAF does not loan to the same club twice, as he is now retiring surely that will improve our chances of having Keane back next season, whether on loan again or depending on the new manager permanent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 I'm fairly sure Pearson won't be here next season so the policy of signing as many Man United youngsters as possible might not continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Might be able to get Keane back now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurnbyLodgeFox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 was thinking this myself. we will hopefully be able to sort something AND keep Schlupp... who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRBYFOX93 Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 I'm fairly sure Pearson won't be here next season so the policy of signing as many Man United youngsters as possible might not continue. His job is already saved he is going no where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieADZ Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Might be able to get Keane back now i think the odds might well have increased...I suspect they might increase further if Jose gets the job. *im guessing tho* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 His job is already saved he is going no where I'm not so sure, I still think he'll leave even if we get promotion. He'll definitely leave if we lose in the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 I doubt we do business direct with SAF, he'll have a whole army of scouts, youth development officers, reserve managers, youth team managers, etc. You'd imagine they operate with enough autonomy to negotiate loans. He's hardly going to want or need to be involved with every single youth prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grewks Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 I'm not so sure, I still think he'll leave even if we get promotion. He'll definitely leave if we lose in the play-offs. do you want him gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grewks Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 I doubt we do business direct with SAF, he'll have a whole army of scouts, youth development officers, reserve managers, youth team managers, etc. You'd imagine they operate with enough autonomy to negotiate loans. He's hardly going to want or need to be involved with every single youth prospect. But hopefully the new manager brings his own staff. Maybe the likes of Mike Phelan may want to try management, or Joyce may want to go to hull under bruce because of his 'special' relationship with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 2 of Manchester United youngsters Sean McGinty and Luke Hendrie were part of our under 21 team yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickyboy Posted 8 May 2013 Author Share Posted 8 May 2013 I doubt we do business direct with SAF, he'll have a whole army of scouts, youth development officers, reserve managers, youth team managers, etc. You'd imagine they operate with enough autonomy to negotiate loans. He's hardly going to want or need to be involved with every single youth prospect. He may not be involved with the loans and be involved with all the youth projects, how ever I would be very surprised if he doesn't issue the directives they follow, e.g. No loaning to the same team twice, this has the possibility to change with a new manager and new ideas this could change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 I'm not so sure, I still think he'll leave even if we get promotion. He'll definitely leave if we lose in the play-offs. Agreed, I think he'll go when the season is done, no matter what happens. How many loan players have we had from them? I can think of Cleverley, Keane and Lingard. Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For_Fox19 Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 The tie up is obviously between Pearson/Walsh & Ferguson, first brokered by Bryan Robson no doubt. They did the same at Hull as well as here first time around. If Pearson leaves we won't get a continued flow of players from them or the other benefits. Not just loans, but Shlupp training with them & our U21's spending the day with them. However, hasn't SAF accepted position as director & ambassador? So a little influence. Like I say it won't be anything to do with him retiring, more what happens with Pearson. I know this is for another thread..........but people should be careful what they wish for, Pearson (Walsh) has used his contacts very well to get good young players in, we were(are) short of an experienced head or two in getting results in games to get 3 points. I know that doesn't explain some terrible games in last 3 months. But i'm thinking P'borough, Cardiff, Brighton, Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 has Keane ever indicated any intention or desire to remain/ sign permanently?- if he has I've never read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loggy88 Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 It could improve our chances of getting him for another seasons loan or maybe full time. Also why are some fans saying Pearson won't be here next season??? We've not even played the 1st leg yet and fans saying crap like that, get behind Pearson and the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 We are behind the team, doesn't stop me from thinking/hoping that he will be sacked whatever the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaM Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Means we have a much better chance of getting Keane either back on loan or on a permanent now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 The tie up is obviously between Pearson/Walsh & Ferguson, first brokered by Bryan Robson no doubt. They did the same at Hull as well as here first time around. If Pearson leaves we won't get a continued flow of players from them or the other benefits. Not just loans, but Shlupp training with them & our U21's spending the day with them. However, hasn't SAF accepted position as director & ambassador? So a little influence. Like I say it won't be anything to do with him retiring, more what happens with Pearson. I know this is for another thread..........but people should be careful what they wish for, Pearson (Walsh) has used his contacts very well to get good young players in, we were(are) short of an experienced head or two in getting results in games to get 3 points. I know that doesn't explain some terrible games in last 3 months. But i'm thinking P'borough, Cardiff, Brighton, Birmingham. This is how popular Fergie was at Old Trafford 3 years into his reign, 3 years is ample time to come up with the goods, especially when you think that at this club, we expect it with one summer Yes, Pearson isn't Fergie, but hey - We're not ManUtd Of course whether he'll get chance to add to the young core & build on it or we tear it down and start again, again, again... is anyone's guess. but the players are responding well so I think as long as that continues there's more chance than not that he'll get chance to continue building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 We already did anyway he won't make the grade at Manchester United in the short term longer term maybe like Shawcross for example. £1m should do the trick imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 As mentioned before SAF does not loan to the same club twice, as he is now retiring surely that will improve our chances of having Keane back next season, whether on loan again or depending on the new manager permanent? Do you mean the same player because we've had quite a players on loan from Man U over the years (yes we did use the loan system a lot even before this season!) mainly because generally any we had did well (Webber,Cleverley and Kuszczak)? Don't forget Ferguson is still going to be at Old Trafford so will probably put in a good word for clubs like ours who have looked after his players before if the new manager wants to send youngsters out on loan again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Who is there to get on loan anyway, apart from Nick Powell? The rest are not good enough. This is a good day for us, not a bad one. No more Man Utd youth players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Won't the Keane situation depend on Moyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Who is there to get on loan anyway, apart from Nick Powell? The rest are not good enough. This is a good day for us, not a bad one. No more Man Utd youth players Every time I see you've posted I expect to read something ridiculous. .....again, you've not let me down! Or is it some attempt at being witty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 8 May 2013 Share Posted 8 May 2013 Every time I see you've posted I expect to read something ridiculous. .....again, you've not let me down! Or is it you being "witty"? Nope people know by now I don't like all these Man Utd youth players. Absolutely pathetic, James has been our best buy from Man Utd, apart from that I can't remember really rating anybody else, even Tom Cleverley he had his average games for us, and didn't really excite me like Mark Davies did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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