Do we look like a promotion winning side? Be honest.

[Guest Col city fan]

Charlton, we would of took a point if it wasnt for the worse refereeing display ive ever seen.

Donny would of took a point if it wasnt for a freak mistake

Shef Weds would of probablly won if dave jones was still there

Brighton, was never gonna get anything from this fixture unless we parked the bus and went for the scrappy away 0-1 like so many teams have done to us in the past.

Burnley lost to Huddersfeld last weekend

QPR lost to Doncaster

So whats your point?

Bloody Hell! If mi auntie were mi uncle an all that..You can't base your arguments on all ifs and buts! Ridiculous.

[suffolk fox]

We lose too many games to be a promotion winning side. Teams that want to go up get at least a point against the likes of Doncaster, Sheff wed, Charlton. Teams that want to go up do not drop their most creative and best players.

[Happy Fox]

Promotion winning means what exactly?, through the playoffs not a f**king chance unless we somehow get Dierby!

 

But automatic promotion has to happen remains to be seen if the players really want based on the last two performances no they don't.

 

But we are averaging automatic promotion 2 points a game but previously we were averaging 2.3 points a game which was title form we have dropped our standards, it cannot continue against QPR and Burnley, must win games even at this stage of the season.

[StanSP]

We lose too many games to be a promotion winning side. Teams that want to go up get at least a point against the likes of Doncaster, Sheff wed, Charlton. Teams that want to go up do not drop their most creative and best players.

 

Really??

 

2012-13 - Hull - 2nd - lost 15 games

2011-12 - Reading - 1st - lost 11 games

2010-11 - Swansea - 3rd - lost 14 games

2009-10 - Blackpool - 6th - lost 14 games

 

That's just in the past 4 seasons. We've lost 5 in 19 league games. If we carry that through to 46 games, we're due to lose 12 games only in the whole of the season. So no, I don't think that's too many for a promotion-winning side. 

 

Obviously I want to lose as little as possible like any fan would, but given how tight this league is and has been, losing that many games isn't as bad as you make out. 

[mackiepas]

Bloody Hell! If mi auntie were mi uncle an all that..You can't base your arguments on all ifs and buts! Ridiculous.

 

if you open yours eyes and read the post i was replying to, he was saying that we should be winning these games, i was making the point that the games we have lost are based on fine margins. so in answer to your misguided response, no i wasnt basing any arguement on ifs and buts.

[Guest Col city fan]

We can absolutely get promotion! I said two weeks ago we must have one of the strongest squads in the division. Being able to boast the likes of Moore and James on the bench, at this level, is impressive.

This is now mainly Pearson's squad and Pearson's work.

I just hope he doesn't now go and fook it all up by playing them wrongly.

Look at Hammond, for example. Some were saying yesterday that they hope he never plays again! Hammond is NOT a bad player. He's been Brighton's captain and has looked good in a city shirt. Yesterday he apparently looked like a clown. Either he's shite (no, I don't think so) or the midfield was so wrong that it made him look shite.

Pearson has got to get his tactics consistently right when under the cosh. If he doesn't he'll be gone in the summer.

[Thracian]

No not really.

 

We've improved the personnel individually in some areas but tactically and philosophically we're still ordinary. We're not even basically convincing let alone imaginative or a step ahead.

 

Much of this season's football might have been functional in terms of amassing points but it's been unconvincing in terms of fluidity. Yes, there have been good spells but we've rarely seemed like a genuinely imposing team of the kind that intimidates the opposition with its threat.

 

We've been stifled recently by teams who close us down quickly and prevent us passing and moving. Opponents have harnessed us this way in the past and we seem to have no answer.

 

Pearson's favoured approach - particularly away from home - is to sit deep and counter attack at pace rather than to get in peoples faces, close them down in packs and attack in numbers.

 

There's no simplistic system to guarantee success but, for either approach, you have to have a team full of people who move as one and who can retain possession when you get the ball.

 

We don't seem to have either.

 

We're badly missing the pace and conjunctive presence of DeLaet at right back, Nugent's mostly misfiring, Moore's quiet competence - as spoiler and passer - seems to be missed defensively and, when faced with pressure. we just don't seem to have the cohesion to move backwards and forwards as a unit so that passing options are readily available and able to be instantly executed.

 

Specifically too we don't react quickly enough. Against Wednesday, for instance, Wickham showed as a threat from the start yet we didn't counter him - and the same applied to Ince against Brighton.

 

Every team needs an Alan Woollett. A guy wearing blinkers who can attach himself to the main man like a limpet and not even give him space to breathe.

 

With Wickham it might have been anticipated. But even against Brighton counter-measures should have been applied as soon as a threat presents itself. It's partly what coaches are for.

 

Yes, they prepare a team for what we want to do but they also have to be tactically astute enough to spot potential problems early and negate them efficiently, either in person or by denying service to the key player/s.

 

The final disappointment is our scoring potential. i know King netted yesterday but, generally, he's more of a defender than an attacker for much of the time and there's very little scoring potential from our other central midfielders.

 

With none of our defenders posing much threat either and Nugent misfiring we might create chances - sometimes in abundance - but we're accomplished at wasting them and that's never going to be good enough.

 

Goals need to be flowing from all our strikers and with some regularity from elsewhere. But that's down to cohesion and having as many players sustaining attacks as there are defenders preventing them when we've lost the ball.  

[AnotherShitSeason]

No not really.

 

We've improved the personnel individually in some areas but tactically and philosophically we're still ordinary. We're not even basically convincing let alone imaginative or a step ahead.

 

Much of this season's football might have been functional in terms of amassing points but it's been unconvincing in terms of fluidity. Yes, there have been good spells but we've rarely seemed like a genuinely imposing team of the kind that intimidates the opposition with its threat.

 

We've been stifled recently by teams who close us down quickly and prevent us passing and moving. Opponents have harnessed us this way in the past and we seem to have no answer.

 

Pearson's favoured approach - particularly away from home - is to sit deep and counter attack at pace rather than to get in peoples faces, close them down in packs and attack in numbers.

 

There's no simplistic system to guarantee success but, for either approach, you have to have a team full of people who move as one and who can retain possession when you get the ball.

 

We don't seem to have either.

 

We're badly missing the pace and conjunctive presence of DeLaet at right back, Nugent's mostly misfiring, Moore's quiet competence - as spoiler and passer - seems to be missed defensively and, when faced with pressure. we just don't seem to have the cohesion to move backwards and forwards as a unit so that passing options are readily available and able to be instantly executed.

 

Specifically too we don't react quickly enough. Against Wednesday, for instance, Wickham showed as a threat from the start yet we didn't counter him - and the same applied to Ince against Brighton.

 

Every team needs an Alan Woollett. A guy wearing blinkers who can attach himself to the main man like a limpet and not even give him space to breathe.

 

With Wickham it might have been anticipated. But even against Brighton counter-measures should have been applied as soon as a threat presents itself. It's partly what coaches are for.

 

Yes, they prepare a team for what we want to do but they also have to be tactically astute enough to spot potential problems early and negate them efficiently, either in person or by denying service to the key player/s.

 

The final disappointment is our scoring potential. i know King netted yesterday but, generally, he's more of a defender than an attacker for much of the time and there's very little scoring potential from our other central midfielders.

 

With none of our defenders posing much threat either and Nugent misfiring we might create chances - sometimes in abundance - but we're accomplished at wasting them and that's never going to be good enough.

 

Goals need to be flowing from all our strikers and with some regularity from elsewhere. But that's down to cohesion and having as many players sustaining attacks as there are defenders preventing them when we've lost the ball.  

 

Unblinkered realism. Exactly what we need on a Sunday morning. 

 

Here, ladies & gentlemen of Foxes Talk, is a man that well & truly get's it.    

[Babylon]

Again, it's not about us having to be perfect. It's about us being better than all but one other team, that's what gets you promoted. Hull lost 15 games last year and got promoted!!! We are on the same number of points Cardiff were after 19 games last year.

 

Forgetting the two above us for a moment, do we think the fans of any other team are sitting there thinking they are looking like promotion winning sides? Derby are on a good run, but they probably lack the strength in depth to mount a serious long term challenge. Forest, Reading, Blackpool, Leeds, Ipswich Brighton, whilst on there day can be good teams. But they are more than capable of being a damn site shitter than us.

 

Back to the top two, people think we've been crap recently with justification... but Burnley have picked up two points less than us over the last 6 games. And QPR have picked up two more, but are nowhere near the form team in the league.

 

We are a decent team, a team that can be exceptional, but one that is more than capable of chucking in a stinker. This league is very competitive, with any team capable of beating another on their day. You look at some of the squads relegated clubs have come down with and it's amazing to see them stinking the league out half the time. 

 

Whilst massively disappointing and frustrating to lose games, people just have to accept it's going to happen in this league, and only get seriously concerned when it's happening so often we aren't in the promotion shake up like. That's not saying we can't criticise performances, but certain people chuck the virtual towel in after one defeat and write off our chances.

 

Last year we lost confidence after a few bad results. Players need to forget about that and try and get on with it. I hate to turn it into another tub thumping about support, but he ground is exceptionally quiet at the minute. Almost like everyone is waiting for a repeat of last season, so we as fans need to try and forget about it and support the team through a bad patch.

 

Last year I didn't think we did, until the end of the season when it really mattered. Like the Bolton game, the Forest game, the Watford games. I think positivity from the stand can rub off on players. It's not going to turn a shit team into a good one, but it might help people low on confidence.

[pazzerfox]

unless some of the mind boggling decisions by NP don't get rectified, then no.

His tinkering is causing me concern, particularly in defence.

The Nugent issue has been covered before, so will not expand on that.

We keep conceding goals though, so should he not tinker with the defence to try and rectify it?

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

If we win next week we won't see this joker for dust.....or until we lose again

[adamkhalifa]

We dont look like a promotion winning side when we get out muscled in midfield. Got done yestarday because Ince and Bridcutt ran the show.

 

3rd in December, I would have taken that at the start of the season.

[Bettsj2]

Most opposing managers say we're the shiznit.

Personally, I think this is our year. But then i've thought that every year since we last got relegated from the Prem.

To be honest, when i really think about it I dont actually give a shit. Prem, Championship, League 1, these conversations always happen and I'll always follow them.

When Taylor was in charge, i'd go knowing that if Akinbiyi got a chance he'd miss it, or if Lee Marshall tried to control a ball he'd likely play the opposing striker in instead. When Little was in charge i'd moan that we should be signing better than Philpott and Gee etc etc etc.

It actually doesnt matter because the only thing that any of us are sure of despite our opinions, disagreements or comment is that at an hour before kick off i'll be scratching around for the team news, a minute before kick off i'll say a little 'please' to Weller, Chandler and all the City Gods in the sky. The second we concede i'll want Pearson killed and the Thai's on a one way ticket to the Bangkok Hilton but when we score i'll be spraying jizz like a firemans hose.

I love Leicester. I love being 3rd, top, 8th, 14th I dont give a shit. As long as no-one takes, my Leicester, away LA LA LA LA LA OOOH OOOH!!!!!!

[purpleronnie]

Well compared to every other side then yes.

[ithuriel]

Honestly?

We have progressed a little bit since last season but I do not see a side that will secure an automatic spot, play off lottery again I'm afraid.

[Babylon]

Do people actually take into account other sides when coming to their conclusion of no? If you judge other teams by the same yardstick you judge us, then I fail to see how the answer would be anything other than yes at the moment.

[foxfanazer]

Do people actually take into account other sides when coming to their conclusion of no? If you judge other teams by the same yardstick you judge us, then I fail to see how the answer would be anything other than yes at the moment.

Exactly this. Do we think Burnley and QPR have been faultless all season?. No they haven't. Will they lose again this season, yes more than once.

We need to play a lot better than these past two games but we have proved we are capable of doing just that. Lets keep balanced people and remember we are 3rd because we deserve to.be there

[Guest ttfn]

Do people actually take into account other sides when coming to their conclusion of no? If you judge other teams by the same yardstick you judge us, then I fail to see how the answer would be anything other than yes at the moment.

Because we're 3rd and only the top 2 go up automatically. And of the 4 sides we haven't played yet, 2 are the 2 sides above us...

We also have extremely recent history of falling away spectacularly after being in a similar position. We did so twice last season (November/December and February-Mid-April). You'll forgive people's pessimism after 2 insipid performances in a week.

[Guest Col city fan]

Do people actually take into account other sides when coming to their conclusion of no? If you judge other teams by the same yardstick you judge us, then I fail to see how the answer would be anything other than yes at the moment.

I think there's little point taking the form of the other teams into account. As I think you're alluding to, all the teams blow hot and cold. So ignore them for now and concentrate on how WE are playing.

If there were a couple of sides clearly running away then it would be worth looking at points gaps and all that. But there arent, so it aint.

[Babylon]

Because we're 3rd and only the top 2 go up automatically. And of the 4 sides we haven't played yet, 2 are the 2 sides above us...

We also have extremely recent history of falling away spectacularly after being in a similar position. We did so twice last season (November/December and February-Mid-April). You'll forgive people's pessimism after 2 insipid performances in a week.

We are one point off the top two, you are seemingly suggesting because we are one point away from them we do not look like a promotion winning side. And one of those above us has picked up two points less than us, in a run of six games where we have lost three. Do you think their form shows them up as a promotion winning side of late?

It's easy to rubbish our own team, but look at the others and you see we are good enough. Thracian makes some good points, but he talks about fluidity. Ask QPR fans or Burnley fans if they are fluid all the time and they would laugh at you, QPR have epitomised functionality so far this year, as did Cardiff last year. functional teams can prosper in this league.

If we fell away twice, that also means we recovered once.

[Babylon]

I think there's little point taking the form of the other teams into account. As I think you're alluding to, all the teams blow hot and cold. So ignore them for now and concentrate on how WE are playing.

If there were a couple of sides clearly running away then it would be worth looking at points gaps and all that. But there arent, so it aint.

How can you not take other teams into account when deciding if we are good enough for promotion? The question was not how are we playing, but do we look like a team capable of winning promotion.

If there were two amazing teams in the league then my answer would be different to the one I would give were they all crap.

[jamesmilner]

its a league where anyone can beat anyone on their day , get used to it . nothing's visible or predictable in this league , just ride with it , its all that you can do . 

[Guest Col city fan]

How can you not take other teams into account when deciding if we are good enough for promotion? The question was not how are we playing, but do we look like a team capable of winning promotion.

If there were two amazing teams in the league then my answer would be different to the one I would give were they all crap.

Exactly why we shouldn't be looking at the other teams this season. I think any team out the top ten could win the league. None are clearly better than another. The general level of ability is pretty average.

If we concentrate on ourselves, get our own game right and look better away from home, the others may well slip up.

Leeds, Derby, Brighton et al are all capable of going on a run to win the division. So are we. So to answer the OP's question... yes.

[Stadt]

Completely depends on next week, if we perform well then yes but poorly then no.

[Guest Col city fan]

Completely depends on next week, if we perform well then yes but poorly then no.

So promotion depends on one game, played in December?

Right...