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Do we look like a promotion winning side? Be honest.

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Posted

So promotion depends on one game, played in December?

Right...

:thumbup:

I do believe the phrase "must win" has already been chucked about. **Shakes head**

Exactly why we shouldn't be looking at the other teams this season. I think any team out the top ten could win the league. None are clearly better than another. The general level of ability is pretty average.

If we concentrate on ourselves, get our own game right and look better away from home, the others may well slip up.

Leeds, Derby, Brighton et al are all capable of going on a run to win the division. So are we. So to answer the OP's question... yes.

I'm only focusing on then go other teams to answer the specific question. Glad you agree!

Guest Col city fan
Posted

I do believe the phrase "must win" has already been chucked about. **Shakes head**

I'm only focusing on then go other teams to answer the specific question. Glad you agree!

lol

You really should be a politician Babs!

Posted

I said even when we were top we wern't good enough and we'd choke again. (much to peoples annoyance) and it looks like im going to be right. Id put my life on us not going up.

Posted

We are one point off the top two, you are seemingly suggesting because we are one point away from them we do not look like a promotion winning side. And one of those above us has picked up two points less than us, in a run of six games where we have lost three. Do you think their form shows them up as a promotion winning side of late?

It's easy to rubbish our own team, but look at the others and you see we are good enough. Thracian makes some good points, but he talks about fluidity. Ask QPR fans or Burnley fans if they are fluid all the time and they would laugh at you, QPR have epitomised functionality so far this year, as did Cardiff last year. functional teams can prosper in this league.

If we fell away twice, that also means we recovered once.

You keep talking about relativity and then completely ignore the fact we're (relatively speaking) worse off than 2 other teams. It doesn't matter if we're 1 point or 10 points behind - we're not in the top 2. There are (at the moment) 2 better sides than us.

As it happens I think we are where we deserve to be. If we can maintain our 2 ppg average we should go up as somebody else will fall away. But that is forecasting and based on counter-fact.

AT THE MOMENT, sitting in 3rd and slipping down the table, we don't look like a promotion winning side.

Posted

I'm not sure what has happened over the past couple of games. We were looking like a well oiled machine right up until Connor Wickhams first goal on Tuesday night. It's time to draw a line under that though and look towards the Burnley and QPR games and show some of the fighting performances we have had that has made us look like one of the best teams in the division this season.

 

At times we have been unstoppable, using Dyer and Vardy's pace to hit teams hard on the break. We have also taken chances well, Vardy especially at home and Knockaert has put in some very decent balls from corners and free kicks. I think as soon as the confidence returns they can kick on and in true Leicester style, I wouldn't be surprised if we turn Burnley over well and get a result at QPR also in the next 2 league games.

 

I think January could see some wheeling and dealing though to maintain our position as I see burnout again coming. Nigel has stuck by the squad so far, with one or two aditions. However I think we are lacking creativity in midfield and wide option in case Knockaert or Dyer aren't performing or out. I think the defensive options we have are fine when fit and Whitbread offers cover to the existing lot when fit and returns from Derby. I also feel a centre forward will be required to get us over the line as Mr Nugent for me misses to many guilt edged chances.

 

January will be about raising some funds, e.g ship out Danns, St Ledger, Waghorn on permenant transfers and with that transfer kitty move for: A creative central midfielder (Koren) loan for rest of season, a wide man and a centre forward. I wouldn't move out a return for Matty Fryatt to be honest. Pearson certainly knew how to get the best out of him or even a move for Connor Wickham?

 

 

Guest Col city fan
Posted

I'm not sure what has happened over the past couple of games. We were looking like a well oiled machine right up until Connor Wickhams first goal on Tuesday night. It's time to draw a line under that though and look towards the Burnley and QPR games and show some of the fighting performances we have had that has made us look like one of the best teams in the division this season.

At times we have been unstoppable, using Dyer and Vardy's pace to hit teams hard on the break. We have also taken chances well, Vardy especially at home and Knockaert has put in some very decent balls from corners and free kicks. I think as soon as the confidence returns they can kick on and in true Leicester style, I wouldn't be surprised if we turn Burnley over well and get a result at QPR also in the next 2 league games.

I think January could see some wheeling and dealing though to maintain our position as I see burnout again coming. Nigel has stuck by the squad so far, with one or two aditions. However I think we are lacking creativity in midfield and wide option in case Knockaert or Dyer aren't performing or out. I think the defensive options we have are fine when fit and Whitbread offers cover to the existing lot when fit and returns from Derby. I also feel a centre forward will be required to get us over the line as Mr Nugent for me misses to many guilt edged chances.

January will be about raising some funds, e.g ship out Danns, St Ledger, Waghorn on permenant transfers and with that transfer kitty move for: A creative central midfielder (Koren) loan for rest of season, a wide man and a centre forward. I wouldn't move out a return for Matty Fryatt to be honest. Pearson certainly knew how to get the best out of him or even a move for Connor Wickham?

I really don't think its perplexing. Over the course of Pearson managing the club, compare his record at home with that away. Last season, for example, we won 6 away and 13 at home.

In his first season, we drew many away. The difference now is that we rarely draw away from home. We either win, or we lose. And if we go on to perform like last season (and it is an 'if) we will end up losing more away than we win over the longer term.

Secondly, I think its too easy to get more players in. Jan transfers can be notoriously hard to manouvre and can upset the apple cart. Instead, Nige needs to get the best out of this current crop. That involves going away from home and not looking fragile. This will be the test of his management. We are doing better away than last season. We've won 5 on the road already so should beat last season's tally. But the last two games have demonstrated fragility akin to last season. That must stop.

Posted

After yesterday's showing, I would say we are not as good as I thought.That is not merely based on yesterdays's game alone, but taking in the previous losses to Wednesday and Forest. Inconsistency could be our downfall, plus a noticeable lack of passion, that appears to have crept into our game.

 

I haven't given up hope, but am now worried it could be another play off disaster,

Posted

 

Yes. Yes I would. It's been my honest opinion during most of the current season. 

We'll scrape the play-off's if we're lucky (to add to the torture) then we'll play a team like today (maybe not Brighton - but someone LIKE Brighton). We'll PLAY like today. We'll lose. We won't go up. Then everyone will go on holiday. 

I will be there to support the team every step of the way, but these are my predictions after scrutinising all aspects of our game, our squad & our tactics at the half way stage. 

I stand by these words. I am very happy to be proven wrong. But I won't be. 

 

Now that arrogant obnoxious attitude will hopefully come back to bite you on the ass A S S.

Posted

Are we a promotion winning side?

You can't really say.

Each season the teams that get promoted dont use the same tactics as each other, some don't even have as strong a side as the rest of the league. Look at last year for example:

Cardiff- spent the whole season grinding out wins. Not pretty, not fluid, just managing to grab a goal or two every game and moving on to the next. Very much consistent but not fluid and pretty.

Hull- lost fifteen games, a lot less consistent than Cardiff, but played much better in football terms, and won enough to cancel out the losses.

Crystal Palace- possibly the least expected out of the play-off teams to get promotion. Were slipping down but managed to hang on, and as we know the play-offs are as unpredictable as the league.

All these teams used different strategies. Not the best, or the strongest squads, but Hull and Cardiff got the wins to get the job done. Most opposition fans expected them, Cardiff especially, to fall away by December and bottle it again. Crystal Palace pretty much did but just managed to keep afloat and get promotion.

You won't know till May who is a promotion winning side.

Posted

Hello there

 

There are two explanations for your overly negative (notice the word OVERLY, I am not trying to say any criticism is unjust) posts:

 

1) You are under the delusion that trolling is big and clever,

2) You are genuinely THAT negative.

 

So if it's 1 then surely in some brief moments (maybe when you're sat alone in your pants or when you catch your reflection in the computer screen as your face is twisted in trolling distortion) you must realise trolling is a little pathetic? 

 

If it's number 2 then I feel for you.  I'd like to try and show you life aint all that bad.  Let's be friends.  Maybe we can even snuggle?

 

Come on you Foxes!!

 

Ben

Posted

Hello there

There are two explanations for your overly negative (notice the word OVERLY, I am not trying to say any criticism is unjust) posts:

1) You are under the delusion that trolling is big and clever,

2) You are genuinely THAT negative.

So if it's 1 then surely in some brief moments (maybe when you're sat alone in your pants or when you catch your reflection in the computer screen as your face is twisted in trolling distortion) you must realise trolling is a little pathetic?

If it's number 2 then I feel for you. I'd like to try and show you life aint all that bad. Let's be friends. Maybe we can even snuggle?

Come on you Foxes!!

Ben

I think it's No.1 ;)

Posted

we are currently 4th in the form tables based over the last 8 games burnley and qpr are 7th & 8th

We have the 2nd most prolific goal scorers this season and the 5th best defensive record

We are scoring on average 2 points a game

I know stats ain't everything but Certainly seems like a promotion winning team based on that in my opinion

Posted

We've had a great start and I couldn't be much happier with our overall level of performance so far this season, but right now I'm not convinced that we can maintain it.  That said, the last 2 results have had a large effect on that point of view, and the next two matches will have an equally large one depending on their outcomes: 4+ points and I'll start genuinely believing, 3 points and my hopes will be somewhat raised, 1 point and my faith will still linger, but 0 points and I'll start getting mentally prepared for the playoffs... or worse.

 

 

But:

Not really no, but i'd say Cardiff and Hull didn't exactly look like  'promotion' teams last year...

Posted

You keep talking about relativity and then completely ignore the fact we're (relatively speaking) worse off than 2 other teams. It doesn't matter if we're 1 point or 10 points behind - we're not in the top 2. There are (at the moment) 2 better sides than us.

As it happens I think we are where we deserve to be. If we can maintain our 2 ppg average we should go up as somebody else will fall away. But that is forecasting and based on counter-fact.

AT THE MOMENT, sitting in 3rd and slipping down the table, we don't look like a promotion winning side.

So, just to get this right. Before Saturdays game, we did look like a promotion winning side, now we don't?

 

The question was "do we look like a promotion winning side", not "are we in the promotion spots", "how are we playing" or "can we win promotion", all of which would offer up different answers, and change on different variables.

 

To answer the question, you have to look at how we are playing (not just the last game), how other teams are playing, where we are in the league etc.

 

Quite clearly it does make a difference whether it's 10 points difference or 1 points difference when answering the specific question. If it was 10 points difference, we'd now be 10th and my answer would be no clearly we don't look like a promotion winning side. It's not though, it's 1 points difference, and the top three are changing spots regularly.

Posted

We are a good side and we are better than last season, but we aren't good enough for automatic promotion at this moment in time. There are two issues that I think are the main reasons for that.

 

1) I don't think we'll finish in the top two with a strike force heavily reliant on Vardy and Nugent, they just don't score enough goals. Either Wood needs to play more often or we need to look to bring someone else in to shake it up a bit. Ever since February we've been awful in the final third and there comes a time when you have to accept that maybe our striking options aren't good enough.

 

2) Pearson needs to work out how to play against teams that put a decent amount of effort into stopping us play. We must be the easiest scout report in the world. Sit deep to nullify the pace of Vardy/Dyer and then double up on our wides players, as that's where all our creativity is. When teams do that, we often lose, it was exactly the same last season. The games against Doncaster, Sheff Wed and Brighton prove that NP hasn't learnt his lessons yet. Against these teams, certainly away from home, we can't play 442, we can't be without Knockaert and we need Wood or GTF as one of the front 3 to drop deep and hold the ball up.

 

I was so p*ssed off after Saturday. Not because we had lost and slipped out of the top 3, but because it was like last season all over again and clear that tactical lessons have not been learnt.

Posted

In playing terms alone? Yes, we do. But we need mental strength, too, and that remains to be seen. I hoped characters like Hammond would give us that extra mental strength, however there was little of that in evidence on Saturday. Brighton simply looked more alert than us.

Posted

We are a good side and we are better than last season, but we aren't good enough for automatic promotion at this moment in time. There are two issues that I think are the main reasons for that.

1) I don't think we'll finish in the top two with a strike force heavily reliant on Vardy and Nugent, they just don't score enough goals. Either Wood needs to play more often or we need to look to bring someone else in to shake it up a bit. Ever since February we've been awful in the final third and there comes a time when you have to accept that maybe our striking options aren't good enough.

2) Pearson needs to work out how to play against teams that put a decent amount of effort into stopping us play. We must be the easiest scout report in the world. Sit deep to nullify the pace of Vardy/Dyer and then double up on our wides players, as that's where all our creativity is. When teams do that, we often lose, it was exactly the same last season. The games against Doncaster, Sheff Wed and Brighton prove that NP hasn't learnt his lessons yet. Against these teams, certainly away from home, we can't play 442, we can't be without Knockaert and we need Wood or GTF as one of the front 3 to drop deep and hold the ball up.

I was so p*ssed off after Saturday. Not because we had lost and slipped out of the top 3, but because it was like last season all over again and clear that tactical lessons have not been learnt.

We can't be that bad in the final 3rd, as we are currently the 2nd highest scorers in the league

Posted

You keep talking about relativity and then completely ignore the fact we're (relatively speaking) worse off than 2 other teams. It doesn't matter if we're 1 point or 10 points behind - we're not in the top 2. There are (at the moment) 2 better sides than us.

As it happens I think we are where we deserve to be. If we can maintain our 2 ppg average we should go up as somebody else will fall away. But that is forecasting and based on counter-fact.

AT THE MOMENT, sitting in 3rd and slipping down the table, we don't look like a promotion winning side.

 

But one of those teams above us just went without a win in 5 games before beating the bottom side, so they haven't been convincing. So far, there have been three teams a little way ahead of the rest, separated by one point and have changed positions almost weekly.

Posted

Sometimes when they click we can play some awesome football and we could beat anyone in this league !!

But when we play like we have in the last 2 games it looks like there's no chance in hell of us going up !

I'm staying optimistic this year far too many disappointments in the past few years or so, so I don't build my hopes up saying this is our year it's better for the sanity taking it one game at a time!

So it's up too NP and the lads to step up and stop the inconsistency from setting in and take this league by the throat and play football to our best as it's so frustrating for fans watching an awesome performance one week to a diabolical shambles the next !!

When we play well you wonder really how many goals we could actually score as for example we had 30+ chances against milwall , but time will tell we can only cheer them on in the stands giving them 150% now it's time for the team to return the loyalty of the fans and give decent performances week in week out yes there are times of injuries and suspensions but this is when the fringe players need to step up and make that position theirs and making NP have selection headaches !!

We have a great team who have been playing great football at times and are capable of getting out of this league at last !!

All we need is a great big huge bit of consistency !!

Posted

Yes I can see what the table looks like...before you little bitches pipe up.

And NO I'm not just talking about just the past two games. Ditto the above.

I'm taking about the season so far, through my own eyes, traveling home & away.

Do we look like a promotion winning side??

With the exception of a few small improvements over last season, the answer is a fat firm AnotherShitSeason NO.

Major concerns all over the park for this cat.

Does any other team look like a promotion winning team or look better than us?

Posted

Does any other team look like a promotion winning team or look better than us?

 

QPR and Burnley are, having said that if we beat them it could really galvanise us.

 

A really crucial week for us cannot afford to lose those games even at this stage of the season, otherwise it confirms to me that we are playoff team.

Posted

QPR and Burnley are, having said that if we beat them it could really galvanise us.

A really crucial week for us cannot afford to lose those games even at this stage of the season, otherwise it confirms to me that we are playoff team.

Yet, they're only a point better off than us. Both have been far from convincing lately

I'd say the top 3 are all on a par

Posted

Yes I can see what the table looks like...before you little bitches pipe up.

And NO I'm not just talking about just the past two games. Ditto the above.

I'm taking about the season so far, through my own eyes, traveling home & away.

Do we look like a promotion winning side??

With the exception of a few small improvements over last season, the answer is a fat firm AnotherShitSeason NO.

Major concerns all over the park for this cat.

To an extent I agree, the table does not lie,

However I have always questioned the way we have got there, with muh abuse received for my troubles!

My question to you is this... What if we stay down.. Should we have a new manager? And should the contracts be renewed for players?

I know I'll get killed for this and be called an idiot but I've always liked warnock and think he could do a job, my personal opinion and probably unpopular,

I quite like paddy Kenny......

Posted

In reality apart from QPR who have the squad to do it I think the other automatic place is up for grabs.  Mcclaren is a good coach and Derby have a great setup I fear them more than Burnley

 

A couple of decent loan signings in Jan (a winger and an attacker) and I'll be happy

 

We shouldn't fear anyone in the league, if we hit a good run of form again we can beat anyone

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