hackneyfox Posted 12 December 2013 Posted 12 December 2013 Regardless of what money you're on, a pay cut is never going to be received well as you do build your life around what you're earning - but she needs to appreciate how she's in an almost elite group of people and how she still will be if he's given a pay cut. It sounds like spoilt brat living in a fantasy world (which is largely is) to me. Agreed that a pay cut is never well received. Most of the country have had a pay freeze for the last few years, Surely every player below Premier level, who hasn't signed in the last 2 years, has been told by their agent to expect lower tems.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 12 December 2013 Posted 12 December 2013 I think some posters on this thread need to differentiate between their opinions on how much Footballers get paid and their support for our team. The facts are the facts.... Players are all powerful in today's game. And a good few of our key players are being unsettled by their contract situation, which is going to affect the way they perform, and our results as a side. We have to get these contracts sorted out now to avoid it having a negative effect on our season. Whereas I agree with the sentiment of your post Mack on the unsettling front, as previously stated, I firmly believe players aren't all powerful due to FFP and long may that continue!
Guest Posted 12 December 2013 Posted 12 December 2013 Can anyone post what she twattered? Already on one of the previous pages
Devonfox1884 Posted 12 December 2013 Posted 12 December 2013 Regardless of what money you're on, a pay cut is never going to be received well as you do build your life around what you're earning - but she needs to appreciate how she's in an almost elite group of people and how she still will be if he's given a pay cut. It sounds like spoilt brat living in a fantasy world (which is largely is) to me. agree with what your saying 100%, i was just making the point that a pay cut for wes wouldn't be as big a deal as a pay cut for you or me, we live in the real world, where we have to work insanely hard just to earn the money to go and watch these players on a saturday-and they're not even greatful for the money they get because we do that. Even if they have to take a pay cut, they will still earn 30 or 40 times what you or i do in a year. Rant over.
Matt Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 Striker David Nugent has urged Leicester City not to allow Nigel Pearson's squad to break up before they have had the chance to fulfil their potential. Nugent is one of 11 players out of contract at the end of the season – Wes Morgan, Kasper Schmeichel, Paul Konchesky, Lloyd Dyer, Sean St Ledger, Marcin Wasilewski, Zak Whitbread, Neil Danns, Martyn Waghorn and Gary Taylor-Fletcher – and none of them have signed new deals yet. The striker said there was a general feeling that the players want to remain with City as they feel they are on the cusp of bringing success to the club. Nugent hopes his own personal situation will be sorted and re-affirmed his desire to remain at the King Power Stadium. "There's no change in the contract situation, it's still the same," he said. "Hopefully in the Christmas period when the transfer window reopens, we can get it sorted. "It's not just me, it's Kasper, Lloyd Dyer and Wes. This team is a close-knit bunch and we all want to stay together. We have a great team ethic, great squad harmony and we want to stay together. "We talk about it in the changing room and don't know what's happening yet. We all want to sign our deals and we are all talking about it. "It's a dangerous situation as some of the lads can start talking to other clubs. But none of us want to do that, we all want to stay at Leicester. "I've never known a closer-knit bunch of lads. There is no bad egg in the team, we enjoy playing and training together." Despite losing the last two games, away at Sheffield Wednesday and Brighton, Nugent feels City will soon get their promotion challenge back on track. "We weren't good on the day on both occasions, but we know we can play much better," he said. "These two league games now (against Burnley and QPR) are absolutely massive. "These are the best two teams to play in the Championship and we know that if we beat them, we will go back to the top of the league. That is a great incentive to have." Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-contracts-want-new-deals-sorted/story-20317928-detail/story.html#ixzz2nLCAWhQ4 Whilst I understand the sentiment Nugent is trying to make and to some extent agree, I don't know how he has the cheek to given his form, he needs to pipe down. If he was in form then maybe we could understand it abit, but he needs to knuckle down and focus on his performances and earn a new contract before coming out with shite like this.
Devonfox1884 Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 It really must be getting to the players. Two in two days have come out with the same shite, they're trying to put pressure on the owners.
Guest MattP Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 This is completely out of order now and on the verge of becoming quite deletrious to the football club. You have lost two games, you have been very heavily paid for often underperforming over the last couple of years and now you want the club to commit to you all far in advance when we are massively in debt and probably struggling to make FFP. If the players really want to a new contract and want to go public with it and tell the fans how keen they are to sign why not tell us what they are on now and what they want to be paid on a new contract so we can actually make an informed opinion of whether we believe they are worth what they are asking. I don't like the seemingly crass hints that it could affect performance as well, you are under contract and you do a job, people across the country sign temporary, three, six etc month contracts all the time and none of them could use worrying about your future as an excuse for potential underperformance. And 99% of these are on less money than you.
Callabinho Posted 13 December 2013 Author Posted 13 December 2013 The winging wags have got the remember one thing, in twenty years time at three O'clock Wes, Nugent and Kasper won't be playing football, Leicester city football club will be and I for one would be pretty miffed if that wasn't the case due to taking financial risks. It's Leicester city football club, not Wes Morgan FC.
Matt Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 The winging wags have got the remember one thing, in twenty years time at three O'clock Wes, Nugent and Kasper won't be playing football, Leicester city football club will be and I for one would be pretty miffed if that wasn't the case due to taking financial risks. It's Leicester city football club, not Wes Morgan FC. Another thing for the players to bear in mind is yes the football profession is a short career coming 35 - 40 you won't be earning thousands a week but that's not our fault, it's not the clubs fault. The fact is footballers live their nice, wealthy lifestyle and fair play to them, but should the not think about the future? Not invest when they've got the money to do so? Not spend the amounts they spend while living the footballer lifestyle? They can still live a better lifestyle than the average person, whilst keeping money for the future when they aren't earning such a nice figure once retirement hits. It amazes me how so many footballers you hear of stuggling after their career, going bankrupt, e.t.c, even if they never earnt a penny after retirement I dare say many of them have still earnt more than the average person in the street earns in their career.
marbelladave Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 I don't get this 'paycut' thing at all. All players are contract workers, they negotiate a contract based on their worth to the club and the market conditions at that time. The contract ends and you negotiate a new one, what you get is once again based on your worth to the club and the prevailing conditions, what you were earning is irrelevent to the negotiations. At the present time FFP has changed everything out of all proportion, new contracts are going to be smaller and the players are going to have to live with that, poor lambs. If the players want a new contract now, then offer them what they are worth to the club in the championship with the option to re-negotiate if we get promotion. The players won't like it but the club can announce what they have done and put the pressure on the players to show what they are worth.
Itsthejoeker Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 On the cusp of bringing success to the club? Well bloody get on with doing that and you'll be rewarded with a new contract! I once respected these players as professionals, now they're starting to deteriorate in my opinion of them.
ousefox Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 I find it harder and harder to like and respect players when they come out with this - even if it is their agents trying to get them to speak out about it. I notice Dyer hasn't been vocal complaining in the press about this. All he said in September is that he hopes to finish his career here - think that speaks volumes of him as a person compared to the rest.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 "It can't become an issue because otherwise it becomes a distraction," Pearson said. "Let's focus on the job in hand and that's winning games. "I just feel it's an issue that's being ramped up a little bit too much. I don't see any reason we can't get on with the job without having reassurance all the time. "We have got to get on with the job. I'll get on with mine and I expect the players to do the same." Nigel Pearson hitting the nail on the head. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25349044
Corky Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 This is completely out of order now and on the verge of becoming quite deletrious to the football club. You have lost two games, you have been very heavily paid for often underperforming over the last couple of years and now you want the club to commit to you all far in advance when we are massively in debt and probably struggling to make FFP. If the players really want to a new contract and want to go public with it and tell the fans how keen they are to sign why not tell us what they are on now and what they want to be paid on a new contract so we can actually make an informed opinion of whether we believe they are worth what they are asking. I don't like the seemingly crass hints that it could affect performance as well, you are under contract and you do a job, people across the country sign temporary, three, six etc month contracts all the time and none of them could use worrying about your future as an excuse for potential underperformance. And 99% of these are on less money than you. They should look at the squad we had in administration. They took pay cuts, uncertain future yet still performed on the pitch every week to gain promotion. They should get on with playing and getting results, they get a fantastic salary from the club and should respect that. If it affects performance Pearson should drop them and put other players in.
Lobsterboyuk Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 "It can't become an issue because otherwise it becomes a distraction," Pearson said. "Let's focus on the job in hand and that's winning games. "I just feel it's an issue that's being ramped up a little bit too much. I don't see any reason we can't get on with the job without having reassurance all the time. "We have got to get on with the job. I'll get on with mine and I expect the players to do the same." Nigel Pearson hitting the nail on the head. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25349044 good on you Mr Pearson, that's how a professional conducts themselves at a time like this, no bitching, no whining, just reaffirm that he'll put contract talk on the back burner and press on with the job at hand
GingerrrFox Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 The fact Nugent was still taking handouts of £3500 a month from Pompey whilst they were struggling to survive tells you all you need to know about him and all he thinks about.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 good on you Mr Pearson, that's how a professional conducts themselves at a time like this, no bitching, no whining, just reaffirm that he'll put contract talk on the back burner and press on with the job at hand Will he prepared to to take a cut in wages, when the time comes? Interesting, but not pleasant situation.
cityfanlee23 Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 The fact Nugent was still taking handouts of £3500 a month from Pompey whilst they were struggling to survive tells you all you need to know about him and all he thinks about. Especially as he said he would leave and not take any financial payouts, just to make sure he never plays for them ever again, He left. now wants his money...
Maybes Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 The fact Nugent was still taking handouts of £3500 a month from Pompey whilst they were struggling to survive tells you all you need to know about him and all he thinks about. Put yourself in his shoes. There is no doubt in my mind that I'd be wanting the money. It' hardly his fault Pompey got themselves into a mess. He wasn't the one orchestrating the show.
DanTheFox07 Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 I know Nugent has been decent for us but I think we can survive and move on without him, I think were paying him a lot wages so we can go out there and get someone else in.
Dan Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 This is completely out of order now and on the verge of becoming quite deletrious to the football club. You have lost two games, you have been very heavily paid for often underperforming over the last couple of years and now you want the club to commit to you all far in advance when we are massively in debt and probably struggling to make FFP. If the players really want to a new contract and want to go public with it and tell the fans how keen they are to sign why not tell us what they are on now and what they want to be paid on a new contract so we can actually make an informed opinion of whether we believe they are worth what they are asking. I don't like the seemingly crass hints that it could affect performance as well, you are under contract and you do a job, people across the country sign temporary, three, six etc month contracts all the time and none of them could use worrying about your future as an excuse for potential underperformance. And 99% of these are on less money than you. To be quite honest if this is their true colours then maybe they won't be as big a loss as we all think.
Bert Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 Do people not realise that these players are constantly getting asked the questions rather than requesting interviews to come out and say this stuff? Granted they could refuse but they want to keep in the minds of the powers that be.
Matt Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 Do people not realise that these players are constantly getting asked the questions rather than requesting interviews to come out and say this stuff? Granted they could refuse but they want to keep in the minds of the powers that be. Pearson accepts an interviews and manages to side step the question. On a weekly basis.
Bert Posted 13 December 2013 Posted 13 December 2013 Pearson accepts an interviews and manages to side step the question. On a weekly basis. When the interview is solely about the matter in hand, and you agree to the interview about it, it's pretty hard or stupid to sidestep it.
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