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Malky Mackay NOT leaving Cardiff - oh yes he is!

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anotherharboroughfox

anotherharboroughfox

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Apparently now...

 

http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/29/vincent-tan-tells-cardiff-city-to-sign-players-with-number-eight-in-their-birth-date-4244721/

 

 

Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan has already established himself as one of the more colourful foreign owners in English football.

 

But Tan’s strange habits go a lot further than changing the club’s colours and then deciding to hate the manager – after his bizarre transfer plans were revealed.

According to reports, Tan has informed Cardiff’s board that he prefers them to buy players with the number eight in their birth date.

So for example, any player born on January 8th 1988 would be right in there with Tan, who is planning on splashing the cash on new signings in the new year.

Eight is a respected number in Malaysia, and Tan in particular has a keen likening to it, with the news coming as no surprise to those who know the Cardiff supremo closely.

 

 

If this is true  lol  lol  lol

C-man

C-man

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And no your examples weren't good, they were shit. Those clubs changed their kits many, many years ago (well I don't really follow German football history so I'm not sure about them, though I'm pretty sure Juventus have played in black and white since the early 1900s). Don't try and make it's the same as changing your kit after over 100 years of history with it, because it's not. Everyone used experiment with kits in the early years before the clubs really had an identity. Of course, there are exceptions, but I didn't say I would necessarily have agreed with them at the time either.

Bayern changed their kit colour after five years because they were forced to by the local authorities. In any case they had never played in their original constitution's colours (blue and white) before changing to red, they had always played in black and white.

So to clarify, the comparitive example from Germany is also a load of rubbish.

Corky

Corky

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Wasn't their some kind of screening process that new owners have to take before buying clubs? If so how the hell has this moron passed it?

 

I think that just covers previous business practices, such as no bankruptcy or fraudulent activity.

 

As bizarre and ridiculous Tan's behaviour is, he hasn't done anything legally wrong. Morally yes, but there is no stopping changing kit colour, or changing the name or sacking the manager.

Captain...

Captain...

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What is a club to you, really? 

 

A club is representation of who you are and in part where you are from, although not always, it is a collective and a place for passion, pain, hope and disappointment.

 

It is not a colour or even a name, it is an ever evolving and changing entity, aesthetics and personnel change constantly, it is not a big deal, there is very little that remains from when I first went down to Filbert Street.

 

The problem for Cardiff is not the fact that they changed their kit and nickname, it is the way they did it and the reasons why, and that was to appeal to the far east market, the owner is a bellend of the highest order and is slowly eroding that connection with the fans. Which is not easy to do, and a different colour is not enough to throw away decades of being a part of something important. If our owners started making big changes to appeal to the far east market I would be pissed off, but if they changed the kit colour for another reason, to connect more with the actual fans not some non existent fanbase, then I would have no problem with it.

Finnaldo

Finnaldo

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A club is representation of who you are and in part where you are from, although not always, it is a collective and a place for passion, pain, hope and disappointment.

It is not a colour or even a name, it is an ever evolving and changing entity, aesthetics and personnel change constantly, it is not a big deal, there is very little that remains from when I first went down to Filbert Street.

The problem for Cardiff is not the fact that they changed their kit and nickname, it is the way they did it and the reasons why, and that was to appeal to the far east market, the owner is a bellend of the highest order and is slowly eroding that connection with the fans. Which is not easy to do, and a different colour is not enough to throw away decades of being a part of something important. If our owners started making big changes to appeal to the far east market I would be pissed off, but if they changed the kit colour for another reason, to connect more with the actual fans not some non existent fanbase, then I would have no problem with it.

How would changing a kit colour or name help connect more with fans though? Pretty much all changes made in this era are for franchising purpose, such as Cardiff, Salzburg and soon Hull. Obviously the exception is Leeds with the Real Madrid connection but that was decades ago. Times have changed drastically.

Leicesterpool

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Amazed that Solskjaer looks likely to agree to be the next Cardiff manager. He's turned down much better/secure jobs than that

I agree just proves he's only going there for the money, supposedly he's been approached by Villa, West Brom & Sunderland for over the last year or so and turned them down, yet he decided to go for the Cardiff job!

Fox92

Fox92

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I agree just proves he's only going there for the money, supposedly he's been approached by Villa, West Brom & Sunderland for over the last year or so and turned them down, yet he decided to go for the Cardiff job!

 

Exactly. "Supposedly"... 

 

I don't think it's fair to jump in and say he is only going there for the money. He just doesn't come over as that type. Done a good job and has earned a chance to manager in the top flight of a major footballing Country. 

 

Could be a fine move by Tan and Cardiff. There are many examples of sackings that weren't warranted but the next manager has done very well.

Corky

Corky

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I agree just proves he's only going there for the money, supposedly he's been approached by Villa, West Brom & Sunderland for over the last year or so and turned them down, yet he decided to go for the Cardiff job!

 

Cardiff are bigger than Villa :ph34r:

Mickey O'Neil

Mickey O'Neil

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OGS was watching Cardiff today, I saw a clip of him there. Looks like it'll be him. I would say poor b'stard but he knows what he's letting himself in for. I was expecting Tan to get a mercenary like Sven et al.

On a side note, there were reports of Claridge at the 'Wall today. Don't know if that is true. Anyone see him? Them deluded cvnts want The Poison Dwarf himself, Dennis (not-so) Wise. They deserve each other.

MrSpaM

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Honestly wouldn't know what to think if I was a Cardiff fan. Their Chairman claimed that he had a problem with MM telling the press he had money to spend in January, and yet has now stated they have 25M to spend if they need to. This Tan bloke sounds like a complete fool, he has no idea what he is doing, I'd hate to have to work with him.

Captain...

Captain...

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How would changing a kit colour or name help connect more with fans though? Pretty much all changes made in this era are for franchising purpose, such as Cardiff, Salzburg and soon Hull. Obviously the exception is Leeds with the Real Madrid connection but that was decades ago. Times have changed drastically.

 

If, as an example, we became Leicestershire, rather than Leicester, as we do represent the whole county and not just the city, or had a kit change for a season, going back to chocolate brown and light blue halves as a homage to Leicester Fosse.

 

Ironically those that are worried about our franchising potential, haven't realised that the reason we have stuck with royal blue for so long is as part of creating and maintaining an identity, and that the association is so strong that you can't even contemplate changing it. To be honest from a branding point of view changing the kit colour would make little sense as you would have to build up the association again. Which makes Tan's actions even more bizarre.

Benji

Benji

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I agree just proves he's only going there for the money, supposedly he's been approached by Villa, West Brom & Sunderland for over the last year or so and turned them down, yet he decided to go for the Cardiff job!

 

 

Not in the sense you mean.  Promise of money to spend on the team, yes.

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