Babylon Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Seems strange that he's been carrying an injury all this time but we've continued to play him, then when we decide to start with Mahrez Dyer isn't even on the bench. No it doesn't.
StanSP Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Seems strange that he's been carrying an injury all this time but we've continued to play him, then when we decide to start with Mahrez Dyer isn't even on the bench. How is that strange? If he's injured and there's a replacement, why would he be on the bench?
hackneyfox Posted 3 March 2014 Author Posted 3 March 2014 Because despite carrying an injury and being poor for the last few games we've started him in every game. If he could play while carrying an injury why wouldn't we have him on the bench in case he was needed.
Captain... Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Because despite carrying an injury and being poor for the last few games we've started him in every game. If he could play while carrying an injury why wouldn't we have him on the bench in case he was needed. He wasn't playing with a broken leg, just a minor knock that you can still play on, the sort we all have done on a Sunday morning, but it will affect your performance, they may not have diagnosed immediately, then played him with painkillers hoping it would go away, then realising it needed rest and time to fully recover, finally gave him the day off.
StanSP Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Because despite carrying an injury and being poor for the last few games we've started him in every game. If he could play while carrying an injury why wouldn't we have him on the bench in case he was needed. Because now that a replacement it is, we don't need to risk him even on the bench. It's just worked out well that Mahrez came in at the right time. If Mahrez gets injured, we don't want to play Dyer and risk him getting injured and losing 2 players. Anyway, it doesn't really matter any more because Dyer is meant to be fit for the Barnsley game .
hackneyfox Posted 3 March 2014 Author Posted 3 March 2014 Dyer has been poor for a few games whilst allegedly carrying an injury, us playing him surely risked exacerbating that injury. Yet when he gets dropped for Mahrez he's not even on the bench. Just seems strange that the injury isn't bad enough that we can continue to play him for a few games and the he's suddenly not even in the squad.
FunkyFox93 Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Saying he was average has nothing to do with Dyer, it's because he was average compared to almost all of our other players that actually had something to do. Drinkwater and Nugent were brilliant and outstanding, Vardy, James and Knockaert excellent and influential... his performance did not touch their levels. Just my opinion, and nothing to do with Dyer. Dyer has his shortcomings, they are clear for everyone to see, and he's been shit for 5/6 games for whatever reason. But as per usual, we have a new play thing with a foreign name and suddenly everyone is dying to fall over themselves and say he's something he currently isn't and questioning whether Dyer will get another start due to his performance (which didn't get anywhere near what Dyer has produced for most of the season). That is defending Dyer. Never questioned wether dyer would get back in the team, Dyers had a fantastic season and needed a rest. All im saying is mahrez didnt look average, looked skillfull and very intelligent, alot of potential, That is all.
FunkyFox93 Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Dyer has been poor for a few games whilst allegedly carrying an injury, us playing him surely risked exacerbating that injury. Yet when he gets dropped for Mahrez he's not even on the bench. Just seems strange that the injury isn't bad enough that we can continue to play him for a few games and the he's suddenly not even in the squad. Maybe he just needed a rest?
Babylon Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Dyer has been poor for a few games whilst allegedly carrying an injury, us playing him surely risked exacerbating that injury. Yet when he gets dropped for Mahrez he's not even on the bench. Just seems strange that the injury isn't bad enough that we can continue to play him for a few games and the he's suddenly not even in the squad. No, it only seems strange to the sort of person who wants it to seem strange... the sort of person, who might, I don't know. Latch on to rumours of "bust ups" and then without evidence use it to lambast and ridicule a manager.
Captain... Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Dyer has been poor for a few games whilst allegedly carrying an injury, us playing him surely risked exacerbating that injury. Yet when he gets dropped for Mahrez he's not even on the bench. Just seems strange that the injury isn't bad enough that we can continue to play him for a few games and the he's suddenly not even in the squad. But which game do you risk it in, do you throw on Mahrez against a tough Boro side on a good run, boggy away day at Bournemouth, Watford was always going to be a tough one, then a 10 day break, then Forest, another tough one, perhaps hoping the break would have resolved any issues, then we haven't won for 2 games against an improving Ipswich. Better to play it safe even when not playing that well he still concerns the opposition enough to double up on him. It looks like trying to play through the injury wasn't working, relatively easy home tie after a moral boosting 3-0 win at Ipswich and teams around us dropping points and playing each other, 10 day break coming up, give him a few days off training, and the match off, hopefully 100% by the Barnsley game, but if not this run of relatively easy games should mean we don't miss him that much. No great conspiracy.
kingfox Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Stop making out that Mahrez is some superstar. Still early days, stop bumming him off, it's not cool.
Ric Flair Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Stop making out that Mahrez is some superstar. Still early days, stop bumming him off, it's not cool. Surely get the bum in early before everyone else, otherwise you've got a serious case of sloppy 2nds
Rich Fox Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Mahrez was very good and if Dyer has Achilles problem he should rest as it is an awful injury and very hard to cure.
LCCFox96 Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 I think Dyer is obviously going to be to more effective start at the moment given his experience and time at Leicester. He's had a great season and will almost certainly go straight back into the side. He's a good player and a brilliant servant to us. However Mahrez had a good game against Charlton and a promising first start. He did look solid enough. I think he is already technically better than Dyer and will eventually eclipse Dyer's level of performance. But for now Dyer remains the better player and my choice of starter - particularly away from home. But Charlton at home was a good game for Mahrez to have a start and see what he can do. Away from the Mahrez/Dyer thing - both Konchesky and Dyer were sat with family in the stands near the King Power box on Saturday. They both left early in the second half and went down into the tunnel (you can see them on tunnel cam). Both were definitely present
reynard Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Shakespeare's interview pre match was both clear and unequivocal. Dyer has been playing with a minor achilles strain for the previous few weeks. he and the club have been monitoring and managing the situatiuon. After the Ipswich game Dyer reported the injury had flared up a bit. So a decision was made, presumably by the club and Dyer to give him a complete break for a couple of weeks and he could possibly be fit for the Barnsley game. Therefore it made perfect sense to leave him out of the squad so as not to put any uncessary strain on the achilles. As for Mahrez, Babylon is spot on. He was decent but not spectacular. He showed he has quick feet and a good football brain but, in my opinion, did look a bit lost at times and clearly still needs to adjust to the pace of the English game and the full 90 minutes intesity. He was also fortunate to make his full debut against one of the most incompetent and innefectual sides I think I have ever seen us play against.
Mack Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Dyer certainly hasn't been unplayable for the last 5 games or so. I don't think you need to be a coach to know that Dyer is a very limited player he has pace and very little else. Yes he's had a fantastic season but Mahrez has a football brain and 2 feet. I'm sorry but this is so far way of the mark for me. Dyer has scored 9 goals this season and set up a lot more. Yes he has been carrying and injury of late hence his drop off in performance + needing a rest to allow it to heal, to say he only has pace is just not true. Anyone who has seen most of the home and away matches with any basic knowledge of Football will tell you he has been integral to our season. Yes Mahrez looks exiting and is a very good addition to our squad, but he is young, does not speak the language and will tire / fade if asked to play every week right now. Dyer still has a lot to offer.
Steven Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 For the record Nigel says that Mahrez "did very very well for his full home debut".
pazzerfox Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 What I want to know is...Who would win in a race between Lloyd, Jeff, Jamie, Nuge and Ritchie (De Laet not Wellens)?
Thracian Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Can't see much sense in arguing the merits of Dyer/Mayrez given how little the latter has played for us - and I've heard all the carping for the selection of new signings on slender evidence before, most notably with Kaebi. However a nagging achilles injury would wholly explain Dyer's loss of form recently and I'd be extremely surprised if a couple of weeks rest settled the problem. I'd also wonder if it's even necessary to risk Dyer given that Meyrez seems to be an adequate option from the cameos he's delivered so far and, presumably, his performances in even attracting our attention in the first place. We've still got plenty of football to play before the season ends. If it makes sense to do everything possible to ensure everyone involved is fully fit given the capable options we've got available - and to avoid taking unnecessary risks - Mayrez seems to have the stronger case for selection.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Foxes Talk posts on 'how fantastic a player is after they've seen him play four times', shocker..
red5 Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Surely get the bum in early before everyone else, otherwise you've got a serious case of sloppy 2nds Hey! I was first
red5 Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 For the record Nigel says that Mahrez "was average for his full home debut". Fixed it for ya
Jobyfox Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Where was Dyer on Saturday? I've been asking myself that for the past few Saturdays. The mild weather meant that his hibernation came later this year, but he'll be back to terrorise defences in April.
Grewks Posted 3 March 2014 Posted 3 March 2014 Don't get all this Mahrez was 'average' nonsense. He kept to the basics and did them well, he already appears to understand this league far more than Knocky. It would have been easy for him to over try things, but the most impressive thing was his footballing brain. He realized he didn't have to 'impress', he came into a side in ridiculously good form and just did his job to perfection.
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