Teacher stabbed to death

[Bellend Sebastian]

Hello everyone

 

I think what's happening here, as is always the case with anything where someone does something shocking, is that people are getting confused about the difference between making excuses for something and trying to establish why something's happened.

 

Ages ago there was a story in the press about someone who'd done something unspeakably cruel to a dog or something and I expressed the completed unsubstantiated view that the individual in question probably had mental health problems, to which the response was 'so that makes it alright for him to do that, does it?'  Well.......no.

 

No wonder everyone's so angry all the time

[Fox92]

I did wonder how long it would be for this...

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615694/Loner-schoolboy-murder-suspect-enjoyed-ultra-violent-video-games.html

 

I hate it when they publish stuff like this. Trust it to be the Daily Mail.

 

Regardless of whether you play video games, you still have to have something inside that makes you want to actually do something. I've played grand theft auto for years, but never once have I thought "oh I want to reenact this in real life" and there are thousands people around the World just the same.

[Corky]

You can't imagine what it would've been like to witness it

 

RIP to the teacher, so tragic

[Itsthejoeker]

I hate it when they publish stuff like this. Trust it to be the Daily Mail.

 

Regardless of whether you play video games, you still have to have something inside that makes you want to actually do something. I've played grand theft auto for years, but never once have I thought "oh I want to reenact this in real life" and there are thousands people around the World just the same.

 

God, some of the video games I've played are horrific, however it doesn't make me any more likely to be violent.

Ridiculous load of shit.

[Buce]

So you're not denying she was stabbed by him?

Of course not.

[Buce]

Don't worry about him, he's a right muppet. Seems to stick up for every physcho freak in the news who's killed someone.

I'm sure he's not worried about me or my views; he appears intelligent and grown-up enough to recognize that not everyone thinks the same.

Maybe you'll be grown-up one day, but I'm afraid there's little hope for your intelligence.

[Danno]

I'm sure he's not worried about me or my views; he appears intelligent and grown-up enough to recognize that not everyone thinks the same.

Maybe you'll be grown-up one day, but I'm afraid there's little hope for your intelligence.

Alright you carry on getting wound up by comments on an internet forum.

[Buce]

Alright you carry on getting wound up by comments on an internet forum.

It would take a lot more than you've got to wind me up, sonny.

Do you not have homework to do?

[Thracian]

Hello everyone

 

I think what's happening here, as is always the case with anything where someone does something shocking, is that people are getting confused about the difference between making excuses for something and trying to establish why something's happened.

 

Ages ago there was a story in the press about someone who'd done something unspeakably cruel to a dog or something and I expressed the completed unsubstantiated view that the individual in question probably had mental health problems, to which the response was 'so that makes it alright for him to do that, does it?'  Well.......no.

 

No wonder everyone's so angry all the time

 

 

Having mental health problems doesn't excuse someone for their actions. Indeed, in almost every situation, those problems are apparent long before any desperate harm is done - yet still responsibility for guarding against the potential dangers is abdicated.

I remember a murder three or four years back that came about because a schitzo didn't receive his usual medication when his helper went on holiday and the subsequent breakdown in communications lead to what became a fatal error.

Who's to blame? The schitzo for his actions or the health/social workers for their breakdown in communication?  The answer of course is both. An offender doesn't relieve themselves of responsibility because they're unstable, they've rowed with the wife or anything else.

There are almost always excuses given in courts - some truthful, some contrived - but the responsibility for actions remains, uncomfortable as that may be, and others who contribute are also responsible.

Tube train drivers take responsibility for the welfare of their passengers and doctors for their patients so I don't see why social workers, parole board members or anyone else involved should be any different.

It strikes me that nearly everyone who commits a heinous crime should never have had the chance in the first place when all the evidence comes out.

Their violent disposition and tendency towards wanton cruelty or lack of control is almost always well known long before. But society fails to take its responsibilities. Ignoring all logic it offers another chance - and another one after that and so often on the back of the flawed Human Rights Act that so smugly promotes the rights of individuals while blandly disregarding the rights of victims.   

[Danno]

It would take a lot more than you've got to wind me up, sonny.

Do you not have homework to do?

You'll have to do better than that 'sonny'.

[ADK]

Mental health awareness is important. Sadly it takes the death of another person not connected with the original sufferer to attract a lot of attention, but it wouldn't be acceptable if the boy had taken his own life either. There'll be a lot of talk about media influences and school security but that is dodging the issue.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Very very sad incident, condolences to the family

Whatever happens no doubt the Police will get the blame somehow, they usually do

[Strokes]

Hello everyone

I think what's happening here, as is always the case with anything where someone does something shocking, is that people are getting confused about the difference between making excuses for something and trying to establish why something's happened.

Ages ago there was a story in the press about someone who'd done something unspeakably cruel to a dog or something and I expressed the completed unsubstantiated view that the individual in question probably had mental health problems, to which the response was 'so that makes it alright for him to do that, does it?' Well.......no.

No wonder everyone's so angry all the time

Maybe we have mental health problems......as you were.

[Strokes]

Mental health awareness is important. Sadly it takes the death of another person not connected with the original sufferer to attract a lot of attention, but it wouldn't be acceptable if the boy had taken his own life either. There'll be a lot of talk about media influences and school security but that is dodging the issue.

It would have been better if he had taken his own life.

[ADK]

It depends how much you hold him responsible. Do you blame suicidal people for their own deaths? I feel sorry for both parties. 

[Strokes]

It depends how much you hold him responsible. Do you blame suicidal people for their own deaths? I feel sorry for both parties.

My brother killed himself and yes I blamed him and still do.

[ADK]

My brother killed himself and yes I blamed him and still do.

 

Sorry to hear that. I can understand that point of view.

[Buce]

My brother killed himself and yes I blamed him and still do.

I can't begin to imagine the pain from that, Strokes.

You have my sympathy.

[Tommy G]

My brother killed himself and yes I blamed him and still do.

Sorry to hear that

Having a brother, is a precious thing. Don't think people realise that unless you have one.

[Webbo]

My brother killed himself and yes I blamed him and still do.

That's awful, sorry to hear that.

[Strokes]

Thanks for your sympathies, it was along time ago and probably not relevant at all. I do have other siblings and they are mostly fantastic, so I'm still well blessed.

[Tommy G]

Thanks for your sympathies, it was along time ago and probably not relevant at all. I do have other siblings and they are mostly fantastic, so I'm still well blessed.

Sure - just can't begin to think what you went through.

[casablancas]

I work in psychiatry and currently working with 3 lads who have commutes serious offenses prior to coming into my care. They're all quite mad to put it bluntly. But you are talking long term enduring mental illnesses, debilitating relapsing illnesses. A lad of 15 who is bullied, plays video games and listens to heavy metal music doesn't fall in to that category. He had obviously planned this, you don't just have a knife on your person. People who are severely depressed don't kill people, the motivation and energy just isn't there. He may have been an outcast and possibly had a difficult time of it. But this is no excuse. None at all. RIP to the poor lady I hope she is in a better place. My thoughts to her family, friends and all the poor souls who had to whiteness this disgusting act.

[Buzzell]

Corpus Christie School. Shit I did some work there about 2 years ago, installing the projectors and whiteboards at that school when it was getting refurbed!

Absolutely shocking news.

[Raj]

shocking that would happen in a school

My Mrs is a teacher..there maybe some fcukwits around but some shite stabbing their teacher to death???

No fcuking excuse.