The Stadium

[fleckneymike]

You just had to big mouth lol

 

My fault as I did not direct the question.

I knew what it was just wondered what kitchandro would come up with.

 

It'd form part of his dream ground which I fear would be the sporting equivalent of this

 

[Steven]

Isn't the purpose of making a noise meant to encourage the players not to entertain or boost the bragging rights of the fans in the different areas of the stadium.

 

Quite.

[Illusion35]

I think a lot of people's views of Filbert Street are very nostalgic, especially my own as was a big part of my life when I was growing up and I was gutted when we left like lots of others.

But I think it's better to look forward rather than back - yes I loved football in 'the old days' when it didn't cost a fortune and players weren't paid a stupid amount and everyone stood up etc etc. but modern football just isn't like that. Yet I still love it and LCFC in particular just the same. A Saturday like today without football just feels wrong!

So there's things I don't like about the stadium yes - the K block concourse is really very overcrowded now for example. But it's all we've got and we have to make the best of it and create the best atmosphere we can remembering the players can hear us even if the other end of the ground can't!

Something to be said for positivity and being satisfied with what we have I think. Not perfect but what in modern day Britain actually is?! And there's options for the future - rail standing and some extra capacity are both feasible options for future improvements

[darko2k7]

For me i'd eventually like another tier added to the east stand then glass like on the front of the stadium to be placed all the way round the outside with blue and white lights lighting it up . I think it would then look amazing on the outside at least .

[sylofox]

The stadium is acoustically designed on purpose to push all sound from the stands onto the pitch hence it doesn't travel around the seating area or from one end to the other and that's why the players say how good it sounds even when the fans think it's been quiet.

 

Isn't the purpise of making a noise meant to encourage the players not to entertan or boost the bragging rights of the fans in the different areas of the stadium.

To right it is davie.

But if others around the ground cout here it clear they may join in.

instead of 800 in the kop you could have 2k around the ground.

 

What would K L and SK1 plus others in the kop sound like with a joint voice.

[davieG]

To right it is davie.

But if others around the ground cout here it clear they may join in.

instead of 800 in the kop you could have 2k around the ground.

 

What would K L and SK1 plus others in the kop sound like with a joint voice.

True but I don't get the impression they really want to as it's not always the case that you can't hear one from the other but rarely does that result in unified singing. 

 

I also get the impression thatvL1 prefers to direct their towards the away fans.

[C-man]

Could someone please explain why people are bothered about what shade of blue the seats are?

If I had it my way I'd rip them out but I certainly wouldn't be arsed what colour they are when people fvcking sit on or stand infront of them.

Seriously, there's finding things to moan about and then there's this. Completely laughable.

[Lestoh]

Could be worse, we could have Burnley's wooden seats.

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

Could be worse, we could have Burnley's wooden seats.

Could be far worse, we could have their bleddy market-bottom-feeding manager

[Burbo17J2]

But you are all forgetting the fact that if an extension goes ahead on the east stand, if it becomes 2 tiered, I'm sure the club would listen to what we have to say about its design, if we want it to have a separate roof, we tell them that, its OUR stadium, we spend money to watch OUR team play there, so surely they have to listen to the fans, because without us, what is football?

[Captain...]

1. Firstly, uniform and consistent is shit, I can't believe you're not getting that from what I am saying. I don't want it to look symmetrical. Maximise capacity, are you high? How on earth does that maximise capacity? Aesthetically, grounds look much better when the fans are crammed right up to the sidelines. It just looks better, more atmospheric, more involved, the closeness between the players and fans is stronger.

Your comment about our fans being further away from the players being a good thing is ridiculous. I get it, you hate our fans, but it's a stupid point. You're acknowledging that the fans being close to the pitch is intimidating but you're turning that into a negative? Silly. It's not the ground's fault if some of our fans are cvnts. But what's louder, a few fans moaning or a few hundred singing? I know what I've heard more of this season. And that is my point about the acoustics, if you can here the fans singing from the other side of the ground you're less likely to here people moaning at you.

2. Seriously? They are a very faded blue, are you blind? Honestly, I'm only on point 2 and I'm starting to think you've never been to our ground. Anyone can see that they're extremely faded and look awful. Use your eyes. What are you talking about red and gold for? You sound like a moron. Please stop changing the subject. Gold and red were never mentioned.

3. silliest point of the lot. Did you seriously mention Dortmund? Does the term 'yellow wall' mean anything to you? Hilarious.

Also can I point out the others you mention are 1) foreign grounds, I'm talking about British Grounds here, which are by far the best 2) not brilliantly designed at all. Basically what you're trying to tell me is that big grounds are great grounds. If the Nou Camp was the same size as our ground it would look crap. People are impressed by it's size, it's design is really not particularly great. I'd hate our ground to be that shape even more than the one we've got now.

You're also missing my point - what's a 'designated Kop'? Oh yeh, the club call it a Kop. It's not an actual Kop though is it? It's the same as the family stand and, if we're looking for an original definition of what a Kop was supposed to be, it certainly isn't, because it's not full standing. Maybe it would be if it was unique. You certainly can't really call it 'the Kop' if it is the same as the stand where the families sit at the other end of the ground. (I actually can't believe you've used the 'designated Kop' line, I couldn't have made myself more clear).

Never said anything about it being close to the away fans either. Again, stop changing the subject and bringing up things I never mentioned. Next you'll say stop comparing it with Filbert Street. (Just so we're clear, I made the point that I am in no way trying to compare our new stadium specifically with our old one. Pointing things out twice is obviously important with you).

4. I don't know why you're arguing with this. My acoustics argument is sound (if you'll excuse the pun) based on a wide range of witnesses, television evidence, etc. Also common sense and objectiveness, whereas you seem to be fuelled by 1) hate for our fans (blaming them for the ground's lack of atmosphere) and 2) desperately clinging on to the deluded idea that our ground is nice because you can't bring yourself to accept that we have to put up with it forever, so just resort to bias.

The acoustics are shocking, accept it. It takes far more effort to make the desired noise levels in our ground - far less singers at a better designed ground make a cleaner, better roar. Don't be one of those idiots who insists on arguing with things just for the sake of it. Again, you seem to be ignoring the fact that our fans have been great so far, yet there is a common them about the sound not travelling to other parts of the stadium. Again, proved by TV and ear-witness evidence. You cannot blame our support so far for that.

5. Ok if you're going to be pedantic, yes, it's 'very similar'. But no, what I am proposing would make our ground nothing like 'every non-bowl ground'. I'm interested to know what you consider 'similar'. I'm not suggesting just getting rid of the corners, I'm suggesting major redevelopment over several years (in an ideal world). Are you suggesting that most grounds look similar? If so, there's no point even continuing this debate.

Oh look! You did mention Filbert Street! How predictable! Give yourself a pat on the back, you've won my predictable horse shit response award!

Well I've told you twice now, if you need telling 3 times you're too stupid to be taken seriously, so let's see if you can get it right the next time. Then we can have a reasonable discussion.

Also, if you could get your head out of your arse and try to be objective instead of fervently defending our ground just because we play there, and you'd like to bllame our fans for the ground's atmosphere, that would take the quality of this debate up a notch.

Because, despite what you're implying, I doubt many of the fans that watch their team at the better grounds I'm comparing ours too, are envious of where we play. In fact I know they're not.

A few points, you said it could never be considered a great stadium without a designated kop in a separate stand, I gave you examples of stadia that don't have it and are still great. Doesn't matter if they are British or not the point is it is not the design of it or the acoustics or the uniformity of the stands that make somewhere great it is the fans.

You have to make sacrifices when increasing capacity and nowhere is perfect, but really we have a very good stadium and we should be proud if it and looking to make it our home rather constantly calling it shit and wanting to tear it down and start again. There is nothing wrong with it, we could do more with it and redevelop parts of it but ultimately it is sound, it provides a great view from almost anywhere. It is not perfect but we should embrace it. Could it be better, of course, but making any of these improvements you suggest will not make any difference to the atmosphere that is down to the fans.

[Stadt]

I hate the line "you get a great view everywhere", it's not exactly commendable is it? The ground is 12 years old.

[PAPA LAZAROU]

Perhaps the love for the stadium will grow as we get better memories of great games played now we are in the Prem again. For all of  us oldies the old Filbo held great memories and most of us went to our first games there as kids. But it needed replacing . Nothing can take away those memories but for the new generation of city fans who never went to the old Filbo our new home will hopefully become as loved as the old one.

 

 

I sit in SK1 and from my perspective the last two games at home have been fantastic . The atmosphere of a full house and playing well was all that was needed. From the players point of view they must have heard and felt our great support throughout the 90 minuets . Lets stop knocking the ground and the fans , compared to a lot of Prem teams we are noisy and so far have out sung Everton and Arsenal.     

[Captain...]

I hate the line "you get a great view everywhere", it's not exactly commendable is it? The ground is 12 years old.

When you have so many grounds that still have pillars in the way or views obstructed by roofs it really shouldn't be dismissed.

Essentially the stadium exists for one reason and that is to provide fans with somewhere to watch the game. Everything else is just window dressing.

[Jace]

What would make it better is if they swapped the Kop over next to the away fans, surprised noone has suggested this before to be honest.

[sylofox]

What would make it better is if they swapped the Kop over next to the away fans, surprised noone has suggested this before to be honest.

Why are you not running our club?

Or at least stadium manager?

[Voll Blau]

My issue really is with giving the place a bit of character. The replacement of the mural running around the roof with various King Power paraphernalia is utterly hideous.

 

Fans should be encouraged, not just allowed, to bring in home-made flags to stick around the back wall or anywhere there's a bit of space to hang one. Anything that brings in a bit of colour - waver flags, two sticks, banners - should be allowed on the Kop (which should be all terracing, along with L and K Blocks).

 

It really is common sense as far as I'm concerned. Colour, noise and passion are what will attract future fans to develop a love for the club. We're very lucky to be blessed with decent football to watch at the moment, but it won't always be that way and all the corporate gimmicks in the world won't keep kids interested when that happens.

[Guest ttfn]

Nothing wrong with it.

Well located

Good size

Handsome enough to look at

I do agree that the chairs could do with a lick of paint or replacing in some areas as they look quite worn, but if we're filling the stadium then nobody will see them anyway.

[ealingfox]

'The seats are a horrible colour' - Jesus wept.

[Jace]

Why are you not running our club?

Or at least stadium manager?

 

Dunno mate apparently the only job going at the moment is for a new shirt stock control manager 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

Dunno mate apparently the only job going at the moment is for a new shirt stock control manager 

 

Go for it , you sound like you could do with a job.

[Jace]

Go for it , you sound like you could do with a job.

 

Actually I'm a full time skilled professional for a large government organisation and I run my own business in my own time successfully too but thanks for the assumption.

[Sir Fynwy]

Actually I'm a full time skilled professional for a large government organisation and I run my own business in my own time successfully too but thanks for the assumption.

A fireman running a handyman/building business in your spare time? That is also an assumption.

[MooseBreath]

Easy to forget that the whole 'mini wembley' design was all the rage back when it was being built. How was anyone to know how tastes would have changed more than a decade later?

On the atmosphere, I think stadium acoustics do play a part and the club could do more to help. But there's also strong social factors at play what with the price of going to see a game ruling out a lot of poorer people, and I'm generalising a bit, but those pissed up lower working class fans who can no longer afford to go used to be responsible for a lot of the noise. Now we have middle class families and a whole different set of rules, both written and unwritten, that drive more polite and safer but quieter behaviours.

Also you've got loud pre-match and goal music which is very effective at muting a crowd.

[Fox92]

We lack parking closer to the ground.