Pearson has to go!

[Col city fan]

Maybe you did, just found it odd that you wouldn't want to be labelled as something when you decided to label a group who thought differently as something.

Pearson may well have your full support, so I'm not sure why you are concerned with being accused of hating Pearson as you say you don't.

Did people (except Mark w) really become so uppity over the use of the terms 'Pearsonites' and happy clappers..the bulk of which was aimed at Blue Tinted Specs!

If so, get out more.

Where is BTS by the way?

[C-man]

To me the options are clear: Pearsonite or idiot.

[Mark_w]

You've often knocked my calls for balance, essentially because you have none yourself. And seem to clamour for people to have the same level of adoration for Pearson as you appear to have. You must accept that not all of us do. Some of us like the man, but see the weaknesses in him too. I wouldn't be shocked, genuinely, if you were a little happy that people are once more questioning him. It kinda gives you something to argue with and to bring up old posts over. Which is a little sad.

 

It would be sad if I did enjoy it, but I don't. Arguing with people who are being overly critical of Nigel Pearson is the way I cope with a situation that I find incredibly frustrating (thinking a manager who has constantly ensured Leicester City's progression could be sacked) but have no real control over.

 

If you're so desperate for balance, why do you never take issue with people like Dangerous Tiger who are constantly going overboard with their criticism? Why are your calls for balance only ever aimed at people who are pro-Pearson? It's a shame that your calls for balance aren't a bit more consistent.

[Col city fan]

It would be sad if I did enjoy it, but I don't. Arguing with people who are being overly critical of Nigel Pearson is the way I cope with a situation that I find incredibly frustrating (thinking a manager who has constantly ensured Leicester City's progression could be sacked) but have no real control over.

If you're so desperate for balance, why do you never take issue with people like Dangerous Tiger who are constantly going overboard with their criticism? Why are your calls for balance only ever aimed at people who are pro-Pearson? It's a shame that your calls for balance aren't a bit more consistent.

You're not reading Mark..read through many of the post match threads following the games where we started on this poor run. Read them..you'll see balance. Stop bringing up old news in a desperate attempt to condemn, instead have an open mind.

All you need to do is to look back one or two posts on THIS very thread..someone has written in no uncertain terms. .be a Pearsonite, or you're an idiot.

See what I'm getting at? However, such blatant 'black and white' will be overlooked. Yet you want me to criticise DT?

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I'm fine with being called a happy clapper, though I don't see how it's a particularly useful tool in an argument, it's the hypocrisy I don't like.

But it was ok the season before last, for people who dared criticize Pearson, being labelled as "Pearson Haters". 

 

It's also the hypocrisy that I don't like.

To me the options are clear: Pearsonite or idiot.

Idiot!

[Col city fan]

But it was ok the season before last, for people who dared criticize Pearson, being labelled as "Pearson Haters".

It's also the hypocrisy that I don't like.

Idiot!

I'd forgotten about that DT..the old 'Pearson hater' label..

hmmmm

To be fair to Mark w though, I can't recollect him using the term himself.

[Mark_w]

But it was ok the season before last, for people who dared criticize Pearson, being labelled as "Pearson Haters". 

 

It's also the hypocrisy that I don't like.

 

I don't think I've ever called anyone a Pearson hater? (Other than Babylon sarcastically). And what I'm complaining about here is the hypocrisy of complaining about those insults when you yourself (in this case I'm talking about Col) have been guilty of insulting people because they're 'pro' or 'anti'. The issue isn't that Col was insulting people (I really don't care too much about that - as long as people are willing to apologize for it when they're categorically proven wrong) my problem is that right now he's being a hypocrite.

 

He continues to miss that point though, so I doubt we're going to get anywhere with this.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

It would be sad if I did enjoy it, but I don't. Arguing with people who are being overly critical of Nigel Pearson is the way I cope with a situation that I find incredibly frustrating (thinking a manager who has constantly ensured Leicester City's progression could be sacked) but have no real control over.

 

If you're so desperate for balance, why do you never take issue with people like Dangerous Tiger who are constantly going overboard with their criticism? Why are your calls for balance only ever aimed at people who are pro-Pearson? It's a shame that your calls for balance aren't a bit more consistent.

You  mean "critical," not "over critical"

[Mark_w]

You  mean "critical," not "over critical"

 

I know what I mean.

[Col city fan]

I don't think I've ever called anyone a Pearson hater? (Other than Babylon sarcastically). And what I'm complaining about here is the hypocrisy of complaining about those insults when you yourself (in this case I'm talking about Col) have been guilty of insulting people because they're 'pro' or 'anti'. The issue isn't that Col was insulting people (I really don't care too much about that - as long as people are willing to apologize for it when they're categorically proven wrong) my problem is that right now he's being a hypocrite.

He continues to miss that point though, so I doubt we're going to get anywhere with this.

No I know exactly the point you are making. Its a boring one, one you've done to death and no I don't agree...I try to defend you, though for the life of me I dont know why?

Next...

[sylofox]

No one has called Col a whining pansy

Thats gotta be the only thing he has not been called then lol

[Col city fan]

Thats gotta be the only thing he has not been called then lol

Quiet you!!!

For all you know I'M babylad...

[Fox92]

It's still debatable whether Dyer would've been as effective in the Premier League the way he was last season.

 

Same goes for a "like for like" replacement.

 

Looking at Dyer at Watford, he's not playing on a regular basis - I know, the Hornets have had a pretty unique managerial merry-go-round, but when four to five different managers don't regard you as good enough to start week in, week out, there must be something to it.

 

Of course he wouldn't. Just can't play football based on pure pace. The better players, of which are in this division, play football with their brain. Something Dyer didn't have.

 

In terms of replacement, we brought in Albrighton. A player who has played at this level before. Not that it matters of course, but I wouldn't say "we didn't replace Dyer".

 

And we're talking about the same player who can't get in Watford's side.

[Monsell1976]

Well that's not a great method either, because we'd have most likely sacked Pearson towards the end of the 2012/13 season if we'd done that, and we most likely wouldn't have gone on to storm the league in 2013/14.

There's no perfect way of judging whether a manager should stay or go, but I'd say that the progress we've made under Pearson since he took over has surely earned him the season to adapt to the Premier League and to see if he can keep us progressing. Anyone who expected us to be much higher than this, or winning more than we're losing, this soon after promotion, surely had unreasonable expectations? Especially when you consider that our squad is the 19th most expensive in the division.

It's clear your up for a debate tonight mark, so here goes, I'm stating nobody can predict how any senario will work out.

And for the record how poorly we played in that run, I believe the owners would have been justified in replacing him that summer, and yes I personally would have like to bring someone fresh in.

I'm not fortune teller, and nobody could see us walking the league, but credit to him, we did, but it could have gone the other way, thankfully it didn't.

But does that mean his faults cannot be raised, and questions be asked about his methods.

I think col may be right, I think you think that highly of him, a bad word cannot be said.

My point again, which I think is a reasonable one is he should be judged on results and performances, not past glories, even the best managers have times were things go a bit wrong.

Take out personalities, I think the bloke is an arrogant man, and cannot take to him, but you don't see me on here wanting gone because of it.

I judge him on results, but more importantly in this league, performances.

I am not naive to believe we will not be in a relegation battle, but again the last few weeks he's put himself under pressure with his naivity or arrogants to see what formation he was trying wasn't going to work, and never looked like creating enough to get anything from games.

So I judge a manager on performances of a team, accept we will lose more than we will win, but it's how we lose, and I want to see him get it right, and don't want him sacked, but if he continued the way he was the 5 to 6 games prior to Sunderland, I would have no issue if he was sacked at Christmas.

[sylofox]

Quiet you!!!

For all you know I'M babylad...

FFS I stick up for you and get no thanks lol

[Col city fan]

FFS I stick up for you and get no thanks lol

Bless ya..with the weekend I've had, your concern is very welcome..

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Take out personalities, I think the bloke is an arrogant man, and cannot take to him, but you don't see me on here wanting gone because of it.

 

 

Having spent some time in his company professionally (and to a lesser extent personally), I don't find him particularly arrogant. He does however struggle a bit with crap questions from poor journalists and doesn't offer the soundbites some want from 'media darlings' like Holloway, Redknapp etc. For some fans, football is their entire life. Pearson has a life outside football and has perspective, hence why he doesn't go OTT when we win or lose. His LCFC record is pretty good - L1 title, 2 x PO semis, a thumping Championship win - and while it's been a struggle of late, he deserves more time. Whether keeping him or making a change is the right thing, only time will tell.

[Mark_w]

It's clear your up for a debate tonight mark, so here goes, I'm stating nobody can predict how any senario will work out.

And for the record how poorly we played in that run, I believe the owners would have been justified in replacing him that summer, and yes I personally would have like to bring someone fresh in.

I'm not fortune teller, and nobody could see us walking the league, but credit to him, we did, but it could have gone the other way, thankfully it didn't.

But does that mean his faults cannot be raised, and questions be asked about his methods.

I think col may be right, I think you think that highly of him, a bad word cannot be said.

My point again, which I think is a reasonable one is he should be judged on results and performances, not past glories, even the best managers have times were things go a bit wrong.

Take out personalities, I think the bloke is an arrogant man, and cannot take to him, but you don't see me on here wanting gone because of it.

I judge him on results, but more importantly in this league, performances.

I am not naive to believe we will not be in a relegation battle, but again the last few weeks he's put himself under pressure with his naivity or arrogants to see what formation he was trying wasn't going to work, and never looked like creating enough to get anything from games.

So I judge a manager on performances of a team, accept we will lose more than we will win, but it's how we lose, and I want to see him get it right, and don't want him sacked, but if he continued the way he was the 5 to 6 games prior to Sunderland, I would have no issue if he was sacked at Christmas.

 

If it's how we lose, then I don't see how you can take much issue with many of our recent games. Swansea was woeful, Newcastle wasn't great but it wasn't a completely disastrous performance. Southampton are miles ahead of us so a 2-0 defeat there isn't really anything to be ashamed of I don't think, the West Brom defeat was a game that really could have gone either way. As for the two draws, Burnley we were minutes away from a win that I don't think Burnley could have complained about and yesterday neither side was great but if anyone deserved it it would probably have been us (based on both creating decent chances, but big decisions going against us). I'm not excusing those results, but if it's 'how we lose' then I don't think any of those games other than Swansea, when looked at individually, was a disaster.

 

Now if as you say you want to judge him on performances and results so far this season I'd say very simplistically (feel free to agree/disagree)...

 

Leicester 2-2 Everton (Good Performance, Good Result)

Chelsea 2-0 Leicester (Good Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 1-1 Arsenal (Good Performance, Good Result)

Stoke 0-1 Leicester (Average Performance, Good Result)

Leicester 5-3 Man United (Good Performance, Good Result)

Crystal Palace 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 2-2 Burnley (Average Performance, Bad Result)

Newcastle 1-0 Leicester (Average/Bad - Wasn't there/didn't watch - Performance, Bad Result)

Swansea 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 0-1 West Brom (Average Performance, Bad Result)

Southampton 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 0-0 Sunderland (Average Performance, Average Result)

 

Personally I make it, 4 good, 4/5 pretty average and 3/4 bad performances. I'd be interested to see if you'd agree, but considering we're new to the division, we've got a squad assembled at a fraction of the cost of most of the other sides in the division, I don't think it's all doom and gloom. Or that that is all that bad.

 

I accept that goal scoring is an issue, I'd be surprised if it went on for an awful long time, and I think it'd be wrong to sack a manager based on that without taking into account their track record, the impact they've had since taking over, their league position in comparison to resources and expectations, and the level of performances.

 

As for judging managers on past glories, of course we should. It's the reason that if Pearson was to go, anyone with an ounce of sense would be calling for Tony Pulis, because he has a brilliant track record in these circumstances. But Nigel Pearson has a great track record at Leicester City, he's always achieved what the majority expected of him in a season, and he's turned poor runs like this around before. I've seen no convincing reason he shouldn't be given the chance to do that again, I've seen only two categories of fans wanting Pearson out right now. People reacting too quickly to a handful of poor results and people who have always disliked him and so are swayed to that side more easily. He also, I might add, has a track record of dealing with groups of players involved in relegation battles successfully. The Premier League is tougher yes, but that is worth something.

 

The truth is, we are a poor Premier League side, the reason for that is Nigel Pearson. Without him, we'd be an above average Championship side. The reality of being in the Premier League, when we haven't gone for it financially as a lot of the other teams, is that we're going to lose a lot. We're going to be in and around the bottom three all season. I know that the first five or six games upped the expectations a lot, because we did brilliantly, and the last five or six have brought everyone crashing down to earth because the results have been pretty poor. But right now, after twelve games, we're within touching distance of 17th place, no one expected much more at the start of the season. I think we should stop being ungrateful pricks and see if the manager who got us here, can have us sitting 17th at the end of the season, and then see if he can take us further with some proper investment in the future. I like to think that in the long term Nigel Pearson can take us further than Tony Pulis could, he and his team are very good at assembling squads (they built great League One/Championship teams - and while we can't compete with Southampton it looks like we were interested in Pelle which is promising). Personally I think the ambitious thing to do, and what I want to see, would be to let the unproven manager with a good track record below the Premier League, the manager who got us here, battle to survive in tough circumstances with a cheap squad and if we manage it see how far he can take us. Rather than bring someone in who has a track record of throwing millions at never being relegated and never doing much else. I appreciate that, that is a brilliant achievement on Pulis' part, but I genuinely believe Pearson is a better long term option. And I'm more interested in the long term.

[cjslcfc]

Having spent some time in his company professionally (and to a lesser extent personally), I don't find him particularly arrogant. He does however struggle a bit with crap questions from poor journalists and doesn't offer the soundbites some want from 'media darlings' like Holloway, Redknapp etc. For some fans, football is their entire life. Pearson has a life outside football and has perspective, hence why he doesn't go OTT when we win or lose. His LCFC record is pretty good - L1 title, 2 x PO semis, a thumping Championship win - and while it's been a struggle of late, he deserves more time. Whether keeping him or making a change is the right thing, only time will tell.

 

Wonderful post.

 

This whole "Pearson is arrogant" idea really confuses me. I just don't see it personally. I'd say there are plenty more arrogant managers out there. Funnily enough, I reckon Pulis is one of them...

[wc-remix]

If it's how we lose, then I don't see how you can take much issue with many of our recent games. Swansea was woeful, Newcastle wasn't great but it wasn't a completely disastrous performance. Southampton are miles ahead of us so a 2-0 defeat there isn't really anything to be ashamed of I don't think, the West Brom defeat was a game that really could have gone either way. As for the two draws, Burnley we were minutes away from a win that I don't think Burnley could have complained about and yesterday neither side was great but if anyone deserved it it would probably have been us (based on both creating decent chances, but big decisions going against us). I'm not excusing those results, but if it's 'how we lose' then I don't think any of those games other than Swansea, when looked at individually, was a disaster.

 

Now if as you say you want to judge him on performances and results so far this season I'd say very simplistically (feel free to agree/disagree)...

 

Leicester 2-2 Everton (Good Performance, Good Result)

Chelsea 2-0 Leicester (Good Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 1-1 Arsenal (Good Performance, Good Result)

Stoke 0-1 Leicester (Average Performance, Good Result)

Leicester 5-3 Man United (Good Performance, Good Result)

Crystal Palace 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 2-2 Burnley (Average Performance, Bad Result)

Newcastle 1-0 Leicester (Average/Bad - Wasn't there/didn't watch - Performance, Bad Result)

Swansea 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 0-1 West Brom (Average Performance, Bad Result)

Southampton 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 0-0 Sunderland (Average Performance, Average Result)

 

Personally I make it, 4 good, 4/5 pretty average and 3/4 bad performances. I'd be interested to see if you'd agree, but considering we're new to the division, we've got a squad assembled at a fraction of the cost of most of the other sides in the division, I don't think it's all doom and gloom. Or that that is all that bad.

 

I accept that goal scoring is an issue, I'd be surprised if it went on for an awful long time, and I think it'd be wrong to sack a manager based on that without taking into account their track record, the impact they've had since taking over, their league position in comparison to resources and expectations, and the level of performances.

 

As for judging managers on past glories, of course we should. It's the reason that if Pearson was to go, anyone with an ounce of sense would be calling for Tony Pulis, because he has a brilliant track record in these circumstances. But Nigel Pearson has a great track record at Leicester City, he's always achieved what the majority expected of him in a season, and he's turned poor runs like this around before. I've seen no convincing reason he shouldn't be given the chance to do that again, I've seen only two categories of fans wanting Pearson out right now. People reacting too quickly to a handful of poor results and people who have always disliked him and so are swayed to that side more easily. He also, I might add, has a track record of dealing with groups of players involved in relegation battles successfully. The Premier League is tougher yes, but that is worth something.

 

The truth is, we are a poor Premier League side, the reason for that is Nigel Pearson. Without him, we'd be an above average Championship side. The reality of being in the Premier League, when we haven't gone for it financially as a lot of the other teams, is that we're going to lose a lot. We're going to be in and around the bottom three all season. I know that the first five or six games upped the expectations a lot, because we did brilliantly, and the last five or six have brought everyone crashing down to earth because the results have been pretty poor. But right now, after twelve games, we're within touching distance of 17th place, no one expected much more at the start of the season. I think we should stop being ungrateful pricks and see if the manager who got us here, can have us sitting 17th at the end of the season, and then see if he can take us further with some proper investment in the future. I like to think that in the long term Nigel Pearson can take us further than Tony Pulis could, he and his team are very good at assembling squads (they built great League One/Championship teams - and while we can't compete with Southampton it looks like we were interested in Pelle which is promising). Personally I think the ambitious thing to do, and what I want to see, would be to let the unproven manager with a good track record below the Premier League, the manager who got us here, battle to survive in tough circumstances with a cheap squad and if we manage it see how far he can take us. Rather than bring someone in who has a track record of throwing millions at never being relegated and never doing much else. I appreciate that, that is a brilliant achievement on Pulis' part, but I genuinely believe Pearson is a better long term option. And I'm more interested in the long term.

 

Spot on mate. (y)

[Monsell1976]

If it's how we lose, then I don't see how you can take much issue with many of our recent games. Swansea was woeful, Newcastle wasn't great but it wasn't a completely disastrous performance. Southampton are miles ahead of us so a 2-0 defeat there isn't really anything to be ashamed of I don't think, the West Brom defeat was a game that really could have gone either way. As for the two draws, Burnley we were minutes away from a win that I don't think Burnley could have complained about and yesterday neither side was great but if anyone deserved it it would probably have been us (based on both creating decent chances, but big decisions going against us). I'm not excusing those results, but if it's 'how we lose' then I don't think any of those games other than Swansea, when looked at individually, was a disaster.

Now if as you say you want to judge him on performances and results so far this season I'd say very simplistically (feel free to agree/disagree)...

Leicester 2-2 Everton (Good Performance, Good Result)

Chelsea 2-0 Leicester (Good Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 1-1 Arsenal (Good Performance, Good Result)

Stoke 0-1 Leicester (Average Performance, Good Result)

Leicester 5-3 Man United (Good Performance, Good Result)

Crystal Palace 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 2-2 Burnley (Average Performance, Bad Result)

Newcastle 1-0 Leicester (Average/Bad - Wasn't there/didn't watch - Performance, Bad Result)

Swansea 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 0-1 West Brom (Average Performance, Bad Result)

Southampton 2-0 Leicester (Bad Performance, Bad Result)

Leicester 0-0 Sunderland (Average Performance, Average Result)

Personally I make it, 4 good, 4/5 pretty average and 3/4 bad performances. I'd be interested to see if you'd agree, but considering we're new to the division, we've got a squad assembled at a fraction of the cost of most of the other sides in the division, I don't think it's all doom and gloom. Or that that is all that bad.

I accept that goal scoring is an issue, I'd be surprised if it went on for an awful long time, and I think it'd be wrong to sack a manager based on that without taking into account their track record, the impact they've had since taking over, their league position in comparison to resources and expectations, and the level of performances.

As for judging managers on past glories, of course we should. It's the reason that if Pearson was to go, anyone with an ounce of sense would be calling for Tony Pulis, because he has a brilliant track record in these circumstances. But Nigel Pearson has a great track record at Leicester City, he's always achieved what the majority expected of him in a season, and he's turned poor runs like this around before. I've seen no convincing reason he shouldn't be given the chance to do that again, I've seen only two categories of fans wanting Pearson out right now. People reacting too quickly to a handful of poor results and people who have always disliked him and so are swayed to that side more easily. He also, I might add, has a track record of dealing with groups of players involved in relegation battles successfully. The Premier League is tougher yes, but that is worth something.

The truth is, we are a poor Premier League side, the reason for that is Nigel Pearson. Without him, we'd be an above average Championship side. The reality of being in the Premier League, when we haven't gone for it financially as a lot of the other teams, is that we're going to lose a lot. We're going to be in and around the bottom three all season. I know that the first five or six games upped the expectations a lot, because we did brilliantly, and the last five or six have brought everyone crashing down to earth because the results have been pretty poor. But right now, after twelve games, we're within touching distance of 17th place, no one expected much more at the start of the season. I think we should stop being ungrateful pricks and see if the manager who got us here, can have us sitting 17th at the end of the season, and then see if he can take us further with some proper investment in the future. I like to think that in the long term Nigel Pearson can take us further than Tony Pulis could, he and his team are very good at assembling squads (they built great League One/Championship teams - and while we can't compete with Southampton it looks like we were interested in Pelle which is promising). Personally I think the ambitious thing to do, and what I want to see, would be to let the unproven manager with a good track record below the Premier League, the manager who got us here, battle to survive in tough circumstances with a cheap squad and if we manage it see how far he can take us. Rather than bring someone in who has a track record of throwing millions at never being relegated and never doing much else. I appreciate that, that is a brilliant achievement on Pulis' part, but I genuinely believe Pearson is a better long term option. And I'm more interested in the long term.

I sorry if I don't cover it all, but there is a lot to digest in your post, and it's getting late.

For the record, I don't want him to be sacked, and after last season he deserves a shot.

My comment is about performance, couldn't really disagree with your comments on the results, the issue I had was, prior to the Sunderland game and since the palace game, he became more concerned with stopping the opposition, matching them, and playing with 4 central midfielders, and eliminated any threat we have, and watching it felt like we wouldn't score and we cannot keep clean sheets so it only a matter of time before we lose.

For me, if we are going to lose, at least give us a chance, if we had lost Saturday, yes I would have been gutted, but at least we created enough to win the game ourselfs.

We are seriously lacking in quality and the summer transfer market is looking like a poor showing from us, the question is we have owners who are very wealthy, why wasn't more spent on adding quality, is it they don't want Pearson to have the money, or Pearson made a mistake and trusted what he had was good enough, there must be a reason we spent so little.

As for tony pullis, he would be a short term answer, not quite sure if Pearson is the long term answer, but time will tell.

I must fit in the never really liked him, but I'm not over reacting, and I'm defiantly not calling for him to go after half a dozen dodgy results.

I'm not a fan of mid season changes in managers, but I hope the money is there in January and we bring some quality in.

As for the goal drought, as I said earlier in this post, a lot of it was playing with no creative intent caused most of the time without the goals, but after Saturday I'm more convinced now we played with width and balance, the amount we created, one has to go in soon.

To end, I will probaly never like Pearson as much as you, but I do want him to succeed as much as you, purely for the clubs benifit, believe it or not, wether we all agree or disagree about Pearson, or how we all see the way we play from different perspectives, we all want to stay up and the future of the club to be safe, as we cannot afford to be in the championship with the debts it was creating.

[Mark_w]

I sorry if I don't cover it all, but there is a lot to digest in your post, and it's getting late.

For the record, I don't want him to be sacked, and after last season he deserves a shot.

My comment is about performance, couldn't really disagree with your comments on the results, the issue I had was, prior to the Sunderland game and since the palace game, he became more concerned with stopping the opposition, matching them, and playing with 4 central midfielders, and eliminated any threat we have, and watching it felt like we wouldn't score and we cannot keep clean sheets so it only a matter of time before we lose.

For me, if we are going to lose, at least give us a chance, if we had lost Saturday, yes I would have been gutted, but at least we created enough to win the game ourselfs.

We are seriously lacking in quality and the summer transfer market is looking like a poor showing from us, the question is we have owners who are very wealthy, why wasn't more spent on adding quality, is it they don't want Pearson to have the money, or Pearson made a mistake and trusted what he had was good enough, there must be a reason we spent so little.

As for tony pullis, he would be a short term answer, not quite sure if Pearson is the long term answer, but time will tell.

I must fit in the never really liked him, but I'm not over reacting, and I'm defiantly not calling for him to go after half a dozen dodgy results.

I'm not a fan of mid season changes in managers, but I hope the money is there in January and we bring some quality in.

As for the goal drought, as I said earlier in this post, a lot of it was playing with no creative intent caused most of the time without the goals, but after Saturday I'm more convinced now we played with width and balance, the amount we created, one has to go in soon.

To end, I will probaly never like Pearson as much as you, but I do want him to succeed as much as you, purely for the clubs benifit, believe it or not, wether we all agree or disagree about Pearson, or how we all see the way we play from different perspectives, we all want to stay up and the future of the club to be safe, as we cannot afford to be in the championship with the debts it was creating.

 

I don't think any of us know why such a small amount was spent, I'm sure you'd agree it'd be wrong to speculate and use that to call for his head, because we have no idea if the money was there to be spent for whatever reason, or if it was simply a case of us not being able to push deals through.

 

Agree with a lot of your post, but it's worth noting that we didn't start changing our formation based on the opposition at Palace, it started with Man United and worked incredibly well then, I think he stuck with that formation at Palace because it worked so well, not to counter any threat. I don't think the issue is as huge as a lot of people do, but I imagine it's a bit more complicated than just the formation. Hopefully the players will feel a bit more confident using the formation they had so much success with last season though. I'm not entirely convinced it'll solve all our problems in the long term, but maybe using a formation the players are comfortable with can help stop the rot.

[lgfualol]

Does he just have trouble motivating the players after bad results?

[Monsell1976]

I don't think any of us know why such a small amount was spent, I'm sure you'd agree it'd be wrong to speculate and use that to call for his head, because we have no idea if the money was there to be spent for whatever reason, or if it was simply a case of us not being able to push deals through.

Agree with a lot of your post, but it's worth noting that we didn't start changing our formation based on the opposition at Palace, it started with Man United and worked incredibly well then, I think he stuck with that formation at Palace because it worked so well, not to counter any threat. I don't think the issue is as huge as a lot of people do, but I imagine it's a bit more complicated than just the formation. Hopefully the players will feel a bit more confident using the formation they had so much success with last season though. I'm not entirely convinced it'll solve all our problems in the long term, but maybe using a formation the players are comfortable with can help stop the rot.

I think with a squad of limited talent, he must play to their strengths, and if the owners are serious about their ambitions of staying in the premier league, they need to give Pearson the funds in January, and to stay up, it will have to be a serious amount

[MC Prussian]

I think with a squad of limited talent, he must play to their strengths, and if the owners are serious about their ambitions of staying in the premier league, they need to give Pearson the funds in January, and to stay up, it will have to be a serious amount

Maybe - or maybe not.

 

Our scouting team has very often shown the ability to unearth a real gem here and there and add the right players in the right positions for relatively little money over the past few years.

Personally, I hope we can refrain from overspending and do some shrewd business.

But of course, we'll only be able to judge that comes May.