Captain... Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Only way to protect against something like this happening again would be to wear helmets similar to what ice hockey goalies wear. I do think that it should be for the batsmen to decide, I don't know if there are certain regulations on headgear in the laws of cricket, but I think if a batsman wants to wear an ice hockey goalie mask, then they should be permitted to.
Alf Bentley Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Awful news. The tragic loss of a young life full of promise - and devastating for the bowler. Potential improvements to helmets or rule changes will need to be assessed with cool, well-informed heads, but tragically a risk-free life isn't possible for any of us, particularly sportspeople. Minimising risk without ruining the enjoyment of life must be the aim, I suppose.
pooleyLCFC Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 I do think that it should be for the batsmen to decide, I don't know if there are certain regulations on headgear in the laws of cricket, but I think if a batsman wants to wear an ice hockey goalie mask, then they should be permitted to. I agree, it's just a really tragic incident that will happen once in a million. Very sad.
SMX11 Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 I would temper any call for calling helmets designs changes to be enforced. It was a terrible accident, I haven't seen the incident but from the reports of where he was hit it seems as if he turned away from the ball. You are always taught not to do that as there is less protection at the back and reduces any chance of getting out of the way.
Alexikokopops Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Tragic stuff. Reports are breaking that he has died. So so tragic. RIP. This was a freak incident, but I think it could well lead to changes regarding headgear and bowling technique on the pitch given how high profile it has been. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cricket/30219440 Terrible news, I hope the situation is reviewed and to ensure that batsmen are given as much protection as possible, I don't want fast aggressive bowling to be tempered in anyway as it is great to watch. It may be that we have to write this off as a freak accident, unavoidable and just get on with it, but there needs to be a proper review into helmets and equipment to establish that. Tragic the ball hit a part of the head were his helmet did not protect him. Changes in design must be made. Haven't there only been 100 reported cases of it ever happening and only one previous 1 by a cricket ball? Plus didn't the ball hit him on the back/side of the neck which caused the vertebral artery dissection (I'm not quite as clear on this, I keep reading slightly different things)? It's incredibly tragic news and if a player wants to start wearing neck protection they should be able to but I'm not sure there's a need for sweeping changes to helmet regulations.
DB11 Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 The video is available on YouTube. Just watched it and it's such a freak occurrence sympathies to his family but also Abbott - he must be distraught and I just hope he copes.
Darkon84 Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 I would temper any call for calling helmets designs changes to be enforced. It was a terrible accident, I haven't seen the incident but from the reports of where he was hit it seems as if he turned away from the ball. You are always taught not to do that as there is less protection at the back and reduces any chance of getting out of the way. This. I think batsmen should have the option to wear whatever kind of head gear they wish, but I don't think anything should be enforced. Again, from a young age, you are always taught not to turn your head as it leaves you exposed. I was even told not to move my head to either side to avoid a ball. If in doubt, duck, it's the safest way. So sad that we are having to have this conversation though. Cricket has lost a talent this morning due to a complete freak accident. Thoughts to his friends and family, and of course, to Abbott too, this is going to be tough for him to overcome too. RIP
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Awful news, a real tragedy sympathies to everyone involved.
Corky Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Absolutely tragic and just something you'd never expect to hear about given the protection batsmen have. So unfortunate that one of the unprotected parts of the body was struck. Terrible news. The bowler must be going through hell too. Cricket has lost a very talented and entertaining batsman.
Alexikokopops Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 An interesting article on the BBC about helmets http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30206381
Captain... Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Tragic stuff. Haven't there only been 100 reported cases of it ever happening and only one previous 1 by a cricket ball? Plus didn't the ball hit him on the back/side of the neck which caused the vertebral artery dissection (I'm not quite as clear on this, I keep reading slightly different things)? It's incredibly tragic news and if a player wants to start wearing neck protection they should be able to but I'm not sure there's a need for sweeping changes to helmet regulations. I don't think we need sweeping changes, but there should be a review to see if this can be prevented from happening again, I'm not proposing wrapping people in cotton wool, just to see if there are any safety improvements we can make to ensure this doesn't happen. Was Hughes the type of player to have problems with the short ball? Was a it a typical plan to bowl short to him as he was uncomfortable with the short ball? If you see someone like that who is ducking around and turning his head, then he should trained out of it, but if he is posing any risk to himself, then a modified helmet could be an option.
Itsthejoeker Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 After this and when Broad took one through the grill and on the nose it is probably not a bad idea to check the safety requirements of helmets. I've edged a couple through my grill and broken my nose once, quite scary that the idea of a helmet is to protect you and yet in some cases it doesn't.
Bert Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Devastating news. Thoughts are with his family at this awful time and also the bowler who must be absolutely mortified. RIP Phil Hughes.
Voll Blau Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 I would temper any call for calling helmets designs changes to be enforced. It was a terrible accident, I haven't seen the incident but from the reports of where he was hit it seems as if he turned away from the ball. You are always taught not to do that as there is less protection at the back and reduces any chance of getting out of the way. Agree with this. It was a tragic, freak accident that led to a freak fatal injury. Batsmen should be free to choose what headgear they wear. Personally don't wear a lid when I bat because of the comfort factor, but if I felt somebody was quick enough to do me real damage I'd put one on without hesitation. Anyway, besides the point at a time like this. Heart sank when I heard what had happened on the radio this morning. 63 not out fella. RIP.
Corky Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 63 not out will be forever noticed even more from now on.
Guest MattP Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 This is a freak accident, we can't start changing helmets to cover the neck, you can't play cricket in body armour. I would only wear one when facing fast bowling, it's amazing to think players like Botham sometimes didn't bother even when facing Marshall Lilley and Holding. Can't remember who asked but Hughes was a poor player of the short ball and was always targeted with it, this is just one of those things. Feel for Abbott as well, a promising career probably over, can't see him getting over this. RIP Phil - 63 not out forever.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Such a tragic and freak accident but I hope no rules come in to prevent fast bowlers using the short ball. Remember Botham saying you were less likely to be hit if you weren't wearing a helmet, as you wouldn't take your eyes off the ball for a nanosecond!
RonnieTodger Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 RIP Phil. This is absolutely tragic. God knows Abbott must be going through, also.
Tom's Pasta Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 I was shocked just to hear he'd been taken to hospital but for him to have died from his injury is devastating news. A young man just playing the sport that he loves and all of a sudden this happens, tragic.
Tom's Pasta Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 And yes I feel for Sean Abbot as well, he'll need immense amounts of support if he's going to be able to bowl like he could before this tragic incident.
leicsmac Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 And yes I feel for Sean Abbot as well, he'll need immense amounts of support if he's going to be able to bowl like he could before this tragic incident. I think that his career is over. Can you imagine bowling again knowing what had happened the last time you did, even if it wasn't your fault?
Tom's Pasta Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 I think that his career is over. Can you imagine bowling again knowing what had happened the last time you did, even if it wasn't your fault? Depends how he feels about it, and how the counselling goes. If he does return it's inevitable that he'll lose a lot of the aggression he had, and there's no way he'll be able to bowl a bouncer without thinking back to this incident
Captain... Posted 27 November 2014 Posted 27 November 2014 Seeing as he is an Aussie and they are typically pragmatic I hope he will be able to move on. He did nothing wrong it wasn't an illegal ball, or poor light. If it was a Beamer it would be different, but it wasn't it was a good short ball that Hughes took in the head through his own actions not the bowler's.
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