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I think Nigel is letting both De Laet and Konchesky get away with poor performances by digging out our wide players for not giving them enough protection. Yes your wide midfielders have to track back and help on the defensive side of the ball but only to a certain extent and there is only so much they can do.

Nigel is asking our wingers to track very deep so that we can keep a narrow back 4 but it completely nullifies our counter attacking threat which is one of the main reasons to play a 4-4-2. When we do get the ball we have one option, lump it forward to the 2 strikers upfield. The full backs for me need to be held more accountable and push out wider and look to stop crosses at source, rather than being positioned near the edge of the box and expecting the wide players to do it all for them. Too many times today they were allowed to cross balls into the box because our full backs didn't go and pressurise QPR's wide players.

Riyad Mahrez is a classy player and arguably our best attacking threat, he's never going to do the same job as Albrighton would defensively but it's clear to see who is more likely to create/score you a goal. Nigel needs to expect and demand more from our full backs.

 

That's an excellent post. Agree with every word.

 

I still don't think we're too many tweaks from having a solid team.

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I can't agree that the midfield is a key area of concern. We created a huge number of chances, many of which were squandered by Vardy, and I think that's what we'd continue to do if we stuck with Cambiasso and Mahrez in there, and gave them a chance to build an understanding in a settled midfield unit. That's in spite of Mahrez at times looking too lightweight. Equally, I thought Schlupp did very well both going forward and in defence, and I think James covered a lot of ground. I thought today was more a story of one side that have learned how to take and defend set pieces, and another side which hasn't. Throw in a baffling substitution, a couple of poor displays from the full backs (again) and a wasteful display from Vardy and you've probably got the reasons for our defeat. I wouldn't put it down to a poor work rate or an especially dodgy midfield, Mahrez included.

 

Yeah but the truth doesn't back Cols arguments up so he needs to look for alternatives.

Guest Col city fan
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Sunderland's goals for and against record is remarkable similar to our own. there's one goal in it. And Cattermole plays in front of a defense that while old is filled with top level experience. Our Captain and main CB is in his thirties playing his first top level season, we've a right back that can't cope defensively at this level, and a choice between a U21 again playing in his first season at the top level and Was who again is old and never played in the Prem.

Notice you've dropped the other arguement, probably wise.

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Dropped what?

A personal favourite was your dismissal of Ulloa, before he'd kicked a ball in anger, for him then to score five in a few games lol

He can clearly score goals and is unfortunate to be playing in a side that is dramatically low on confidence and, I fear, ability at this level.

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Dropped what?

A personal favourite was your dismissal of Ulloa, before he'd kicked a ball in anger, for him then to score five in a few games lol

He can clearly score goals and is unfortunate to be playing in a side that is dramatically low on confidence and, I fear, ability at this level.

 

I've seen plenty of Ulloa before he signed, I watch quite a lot of football. I didn't totally dismiss him merely said we could have got better for the money (really need to work on your reading)

 

And given he aint scored since, it's looking less and less stupid by the game pal  :thumbup:

Guest Col city fan
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I can't agree that the midfield is a key area of concern. We created a huge number of chances, many of which were squandered by Vardy, and I think that's what we'd continue to do if we stuck with Cambiasso and Mahrez in there, and gave them a chance to build an understanding in a settled midfield unit. That's in spite of Mahrez at times looking too lightweight. Equally, I thought Schlupp did very well both going forward and in defence, and I think James covered a lot of ground. I thought today was more a story of one side that have learned how to take and defend set pieces, and another side which hasn't. Throw in a baffling substitution, a couple of poor displays from the full backs (again) and a wasteful display from Vardy and you've probably got the reasons for our defeat. I wouldn't put it down to a poor work rate or an especially dodgy midfield, Mahrez included.

Dont agree mate and I usually do with you.

We have a midfield that neither scores enough, on a consistent basis, nor shields our back four enough IMO.

I think we are looking very very average in the middle at this level. If our midfield was as good as you and Ginger say it is, we'd look like both conceding less and scoring more.

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Yeah but the truth doesn't back Cols arguments up so he needs to look for alternatives.

 

I have a sneaking feeling that Mahrez could be dropped for Tuesday after today's comments by Pearson. If he does this, persists with the full backs, and we lose then I can see this forum going absolutely nuts. It may well be the proverbial digging of his own grave.

 

On the other hand Albrighton could swing in three deadly crosses and we could spring one of the results of the season on them. 

 

My gut, however, says we give this midfield time and focus our energies on sorting that defence out. And bloody set pieces. Again.

Dont agree mate and I usually do with you.

We have a midfield that neither scores enough, on a consistent basis, nor shields our back four enough IMO.

I think we are looking very very average in the middle at this level. If our midfield was as good as you and Ginger say it is, we'd look like both conceding less and scoring more.

 

That's fair enough, Col. And yes, there are shortcomings in there. It's interesting to hear a different perspective.

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Dont agree mate and I usually do with you.

We have a midfield that neither scores enough, on a consistent basis, nor shields our back four enough IMO.

I think we are looking very very average in the middle at this level. If our midfield was as good as you and Ginger say it is, we'd look like both conceding less and scoring more.

 

We do look like scoring they aren't being put away.

 

As for the other end we let in too many set pieces and our full backs are being exposed.

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I've seen plenty of Ulloa before he signed, I watch quite a lot of football. I didn't totally dismiss him merely said we could have got better for the money (really need to work on your reading)

And given he aint scored since, it's looking less and less stupid by the game pal :thumbup:

We knew exactly what we were getting with Leo. A lump who can play a bit. And for the first few games we played to his strengths. Ive said before I'd hate to be a striker in this side currently. For weeks, they've been feeding off relative scraps.

The side needs a midfield playmaker..someone with class and legs, to open up defences. Ulloa is bound to look very average in a team playing like it has been. If anyone is under-achieving at present im afraid its Vardy. Pace to burn but finishing currently suspect.

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We knew exactly what we were getting with Leo. A lump who can play a bit. And for the first few games we played to his strengths. Ive said before I'd hate to be a striker in this side currently. For weeks, they've been feeding off relative scraps.

The side needs a midfield playmaker..someone with class and legs, to open up defences. Ulloa is bound to look very average in a team playing like it has been. If anyone is under-achieving at present im afraid its Vardy. Pace to burn but finishing currently suspect.

 

Yeah and I did and still do begrudge paying 8 mil for that.

 

I agree RE Vardy.

Posted

In times of need you rally around you 'family' and give support. Glad some of you are not my family!

Don't get it, the players and manager are not family, just over payed footballers
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I feel for the owners.

As a fan of over 30 yearsf i cant decide myself if he should be sacked.

Can understand those saying hes bought himself time cos of what hes done with us but can also see the point of view where perhaps hes shown hes just not a premier league manager.

Everyone has their level

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you need to get help and try to get out of this pearsonite sect. you are embarrassing yourself and really need to get a life outside of bottom licking

 

I hear the circus are in town so your dream of being a clown could come true

 

cue the boyish comebacks from an egit with a brain smaller than a toads

You're the moron with a stunning total of 6 posts who's started throwing the insults around. You seem to have popped up since the bad run. Your sort always do.

You're the embarrassment and more so trying to single out one person for abuse rather than come up with constructive (it's a big word let me break it down con-struc-tive) criticism. I can't hear your shouts of "Pearson out" over the sound of your knuckles dragging on the ground.

And if your brain was larger you'd know it's "toad's" not "toads" you infantile cretin. Comebacks? I'm full of them and I'd give a gorilla like you a headache. You're a keyboard warrior, plain and simple. Let's see you come on here after a win and give out some praise.

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Don't get it, the players and manager are not family, just over payed footballers

The Team and Manager are going through a hard time at present and the reaction of some of the so called supporters is unbelievable. We should get behind the players and NP. It's not his fault that Vardy and Mahrez missed very good chances in today's game. We've been unlucky in matches this season and we're not getting smashed by teams. Stick with NP and the Team starting Tuesday!
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You're the moron with a stunning total of 6 posts who's started throwing the insults around. You seem to have popped up since the bad run. Your sort always do.

You're the embarrassment and more so trying to single out one person for abuse rather than come up with constructive (it's a big word let me break it down con-struc-tive) criticism. I can't hear your shouts of "Pearson out" over the sound of your knuckles dragging on the ground.

And if your brain was larger you'd know it's "toad's" not "toads" you infantile cretin. Comebacks? I'm full of them and I'd give a gorilla like you a headache. You're a keyboard warrior, plain and simple. Let's see you come on here after a win and give out some praise.

good post mate.. but its like showing a card trick to a dog Im afraid..

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If the Pearson to stay people can give me some reasons in the here and now as to why he shouldnt lose his job, i'd be more than happy to listen. The Pearson out brigade can list numerous reasons why he should go.

Yeah but you don't listen. I've stated the case many times about sacking the manager de-stabilising the club, change being no guarantee of success and knee-jerk reactions that suggest every time we have a losing streak - it will happen in this division - we need to sack the top man and move on.

Here's my points, maybe you disagree

Cardiff and Fulham had five mangers between them last season. Changing the manager got them absolutely nowhere and if you go back in previous seasons it's the same with many relegated clubs, Reading, Charlton etc. They all made changes and nothing worked. It just made them worse and they still went down.

The Pulis idea actually works both ways. Yes, he went into a poor Palace team last year and performed a miracle. But his big achievement was Stoke. It was his team that he got up and then kept up against the odds. The board could have "done a Southampton" and brought a foreigner in, they didn't. Surely, after getting us two promotions, Pearson deserves the time to do that here? Stoke fans were convinced hios "time was up" and he gave them three years of comfortable finishes.

If Pulis or Hoddle or whoever came here and had a bad run like this would you equally demand that they were sacked too?

My point with Pearson is that he's been here before. We've had bad runs before but he's always worked with it and turned it round. It's not blind faith from me, he's not a newbie and can clearly see where the weaknesses are. If he'd failed here before I'd be more critical but he's consistently achieved here. I'd be happy to finish in 17th and as long as we're in touch with the clubs above us, I'll keep my nerve.

Posted

good post mate.. but its like showing a card trick to a dog Im afraid..

I know. I just ignore most of it but if people are throwing the brown stuff I'll throw it back.

Posted

Wouldn't mind Tim Sherwood here... BUT I think nige deserves a couple more games (Liverpool and Villa) to turn it round. Any less than 2 points from those two games then I'm afraid it's bye bye nige.

Posted

I want Pearson to turn it around because we'd achieve without the upheaval and cost of firing and hiring a new manager and it would continue the progress the club has made under the man. If this does carry on and we continue to not win then I think we should change before the crowd really turns and people remember Pearson for this bad run and not the promotions and enjoyment he's provided in earlier parts of his reign.

 

I don't want to be sitting in a crowd that turns on the manager and players, so Pearson either improves the situation or goes quickly before his time with us is tarnished. 

Posted

Shut up you for reall?

 

Open your eyes and smell the coffee.

 

Deluded Dinosaur.

Yes I'm for real you bell cheese. You're a drongo and that's the best way to describe you. Pearson is going nowhere accept it. Pulls will kill our club. Do one

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Yes I'm for real you bell cheese. You're a drongo and that's the best way to describe you. Pearson is going nowhere accept it. Pulls will kill our club. Do one

 

I'm all for giving a manager a proper chance (as you are, it seems, with Pearson) and so, seeing as Pulis is a very credible shout for being our next boss, can't hellp but think you are being a bit premature in turning on him before he's even taken charge! I worry that this kind of thing will result in us ending up losing one decent manager (because it's likely that the board's support for him is based on a pragmatic assessment of our chances with him in charge, rather than being unconditional) but, to appease the fans, instead appointing someone like Hoddle who hasn't been in the game for nearly a decade and was useless the last time he was. Sort of reminds me of us being so insistent that Neil Warnock shouldn't take charge (and, in truth, I wouldn't have been ecstatic about it either) that we ended up with Martin Allen in charge. And then we got relegated.

Posted

Would not surprise me if the next manager didn't come from abroad,or the little fella at Liverpool, but,I agree with most the next manager as to have premier or a top club experience,but the Thais and Terry Robinson should shoulder some of the blame for this mess,some of the summer signings where a joke,we spent around £15mil on transfers and £10mil was spent on Uolla,surely the Thais didn't think they could get £120mil for promotion and then spend £15mil thinking they would stay up in their first season,and January transfers are not easy to complete,and who would come to a struggling team

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