Time to man up and get rid!

[Soar Fox]

Good stuff. Promotion next year it is then. We just need to not shoot ourselves in the foot.

And if we do manage to get promotion what do we do then? Stick with same players or go out and do what we should of this summer and buy better 3/4 better players.

[buzzy]

We need to get rid of players the are frankly not good enough for this level. Not necessarily get rid of the manager.

 

We are crying out for better quality in the squad especially at right back, left back, attacking midfield and striker.

 

If we had a better quality of player than De Laet, Konchesky, Nugent, Wood etc

 

 

This is ridiculous. The reason we are losing at the moment is that we aren't playing football to the level that MOST of the squad are capable of. We don't need to toughen up, we need to play more intelligent football. We don't need Tony Pulis. We lost 3-2 against QPR playing hoof ball for 90 minutes. We need to get back to actually playing football. 

the reason we are losing is pearson has ****ed it up again just like 2 years ago. no ambition a lot of leicester fans who dont seem to care if we get relegated as long as pearson is still here

[MHC]

Oh yeah it's always on in a way.

As you've alluded to though, the point I was making is it's going to get to a different level if Liverpool and Villa come and go with 0 points.

He's at Zenit St Petersberg you tool, so you have a word with yourself and get some football knowledge while your there.

I don't care where he is at. I was merely stating that he is a better manager.

[Manwell Pablo]

I don't care where he is at. I was merely stating that he is a better manager.

 

No you were saying he'd be a feasible replacement for Pearson which he is not as he's not coming here in a million years. Bit pointless naming managers we've got no chance of getting is there, I can name plenty of managers better than Pearson who wouldn't come here because their at Champions League clubs, no going to get us anywhere is it. Therefore it was a terrible shout.

[cuddly ken]

Hands up all those who said I was wrong, when I stated months ago that NP was clueless tactically?

[inckley fox]

I believe he can still keep us up and even if he doesn't I'd keep him.

He would learn from this season and wed have a manager with previous experience of winning the league and a squad he knows very well.

Its okay saying let's get in a manager to gamble at all costs to keep us up but if he doesn't then he will go too and we really will be back in the days of managerial circuses and oblivion

 

I believe he can still keep us up too, but he is going to have to give us a few clues that this is what's going to happen, and pretty soon.

 

I understand your point but this depends on the board's ambition. Summer spending suggested that they had one eye on what would happen if we came straight back down. It may well be the case that Pearson enters into that plan. But if their aim is to establish themselves in the top flight, and they are bearing in mind how long it took for us to get back here, then they might consider relegation a disaster scenario. And, if so, then they'll probably do what most other owners do when they're in our situation.

 

It would be perfectly understandable if they chose to pull the trigger after Tuesday or, perhaps, the weekend. But I'd prefer Pearson to be the man to cement our position in this league, and hope that he grasps what may well turn out to be his final chance.

 

Sadly, the stubborn insistence that there is nothing wrong with our defence when it's perfectly obvious that there is, and his breaking of his own rule to repeatedly single out one of our most creative players, suggest that he's not yet going the right way about it. I mean, he's constantly rotated and pointed the finger at our midfield and attack, might it not be the time to allow these players to build up an understanding and instead focus on our more obvious shortcomings?

 

As for dismissing Pulis as an option: it's surprising to hear fans of a club in our position saying this about a guy who has worked wonders with clubs in precisely that same position. And having a quick scroll through the net, he actually got quite a lot of credit in his first few months at Palace for not playing diabolical, one-dimensional route one stuff. The disaster, for me, would be getting rid of Pearson and failing to bring in a manager with such obvious credentials, then getting relegated with somebody whose CV gave little suggestion that he could either keep a struggling side up, or win promotion with them a year later. I could imagine Villas Boas and Hoddle might come into that category of 'what on earth were we thinking' appointments.

 

Then again, there are no guarantees any which way.

[jimmeh]

Pearson cannot get sacked now. We play Liverpool, man city, Tottenham and west ham away in the next period of games. A new manager should not walk into that.

[foxinsocks]

The starting 11 was a reasonable pick - but we aren't able to freshen it up in the game. We are short of prem experience in the starting 11 and on the bench - Nugent has some experience but he can't score in open play in this league... Chris wood isn't helpful and doesn't scare the opposition. Yet we put Albrighton on who could provide some crosses but took Ulloa off at the same time! This shows both put shortage of manpower and our muddled thinking. My heart sank with the subs on at 60 minutes.

For what ever reason, last summer, we didn't add enough strength in depth in the "effective premier league goal scorer" category. SO we have the squad we have.

Re Pearson: Surely it would be better to get a tactical mentor to help Nigel and enable him to be come a better premier league manager (..quickly) rather than go thru the turmoil of bringing in a new gov'na - i.e. get in a tactician, a psychologist and someone who will challenge Nigel's ideas(in the best possible way) so that he is encouraged to do better.

He is picking his best team and they are showing improvement - I think the owners should spend money to help Nigel not drop him now... though this is their call and it must be getting close.

[ealingfox]

No denying we are making so many mistakes and a fair amount of them are down to Pearson. I just don't know what he's playing at sometimes.

 

Mahrez was quiet first half but the second he started to look dangerous Pearson carted him off! Albrighton/Ulloa thing was just bizarre, especially with Vardy missing chance after chance.

 

The list of problems we have at the moment is as long as your arm and the list of mistakes is even longer.

[inckley fox]

We need to get rid of players the are frankly not good enough for this level. Not necessarily get rid of the manager.

 

We are crying out for better quality in the squad especially at right back, left back, attacking midfield and striker.

 

If we had a better quality of player than De Laet, Konchesky, Nugent, Wood etc

 

 

I believe that there must have been better players than De Laet, Konchesky and Nugent available. In fact, Simpson at right back, Schlupp at left back may well be better options than two of those we've mentioned. As for Nugent, he's had a lot of game time for a guy who has failed to grasp multiple chances at this level in the past. I am surprised at our failure to bring in a viable alternative. Either way, it's baffling to see him get on the field at the expense of our top scorer or, on other occasions, Jamie Vardy, when he has looked so massively inept.

 

It seems we only have two players that we can seriously consider for the forward role(s).

 

I have to wonder - and this is shameless speculation - to what extent some of these signings represent what Pearson himself would have liked to bring into the club. 

 

Whatever, it's worrying that Burnley and QPR, both significantly weaker than us last season, appear to have acquitted themselves better for the challenge at this level. Questions have to be asked.

[LCFCSOULBOY]

You hopeless sad sack.

Your Christmas party has come early? I bet you fvcking cried into your alcopops when we stormed it last season. It's negative ****wits like you that make supportiung this team a chore. Burnley haven't lost in 3? So f***ing what? We wen't unbeaten earlier in the season too, did Burnley demand Gravel Throat got sacked? No because they were realistic about their position in this league. We're not supposed to be in the top ten and your expectations are way over our standing - at the moment - as a club. We've been away from this level for ten years, we're not going to be challenging for Europe after THIRTEEN games.

Whatever has happened this season, Pearson has rebuilt this club over the last 4 years. But maybe you'd prefer to get the weathergirl-shagging Swede back because that worked really well.

Built it with what?  Mediocrecy. Face it.

First of all I never mentioned about being in the top ten. Don't know where your little brain read that.

But bottom of the league I did not expect with the season we had last year. Expected Burnley and QPR above us.

Secondly last season was last season. Morons like yourself have forgotten that. Still think we are having a bd run in the Championship.

Wake up Cognito. We are in the Premiership. Stop living last season and face the facts on what is going on.

[Deucalion]

Can't be arsed,too many points to make why we are shit.i 'll do it in maths.championship players + championship players = championship team.look at the signings that were made and also who we didn't sign.mcgoldrick.pearson ****ed up massively with the summer recruitment and we are bottom on merit.this is becoming a 2nd season peter Taylor style catastrophe.

Surely the answer is 2championship players?

[ealingfox]

Several of the players we expected (with good reason) to be able to make the step up just haven't stepped up to the plate yet. Schmeichel, Drinkwater, Vardy, De Laet.

 

Don't think you can blame that entirely on NP as he must only have thought what everyone else did and now in hindsight it's made our summer recruitment look poor and naive.

[iancognito]

Why are you embarrassed by people who have more ambition then you? I don't get it. You are suffering from small club syndrome my friend. Supporting a club like Burton Albion or Peterborough may be more appealing to you.

What, he should support another club because he's ashamed of people jumping on the sacking bandwagon (again - you lot didn't learn from 2 years ago)?

You know, I've heard about 3 City 'fans' incoherently calling for Pearson's head on Radio Moan-ins tonight. All 3 have been turfed off and laughed at. The reason? Anyone with a slightly balanced opinion can see we're a work in progress. Squads are developed over time, not in one transfer window.

I'm sick of the Pearson haters who jump in every time there's a a couple of defeats or a bad run. You're as bad as the fickle Scousers calling for Rodgers head. I laughed at you all when it clicked last season and I'll laugh at you all again, when Pearson gets the side firing. It's not just laughable calling for him to go after 13 games, it's plain thick. The people who called for O'Neill's head after 13 games were made to eat humble pie and the Pearson Hate Mob will do the same. I'm the first to admit the last few games haven't been great but I EXPECTED a rough patch. Maybe some of you were just deluded to expect anything else.

[Mark_w]

What about us the fans. WE don't deserve nothing?

 

Not really no. We're pretty average as fan bases go.

[Strokes]

Not really no. We're pretty average as fan bases go.

I think you are being pretty generous.

[Guest Col city fan]

Not really no. We're pretty average as fan bases go.

I cant believe some of the stuff you are posting recently! Do you think it doesn't matter to the travelling faithful who shell out their hard-earned to see us losing nearly every time.

I doubt you travel away...

[inckley fox]

The starting 11 was a reasonable pick - but we aren't able to freshen it up in the game. We are short of prem experience in the starting 11 and on the bench - Nugent has some experience but he can't score in open play in this league... Chris wood isn't helpful and doesn't scare the opposition. Yet we put Albrighton on who could provide some crosses but took Ulloa off at the same time! This shows both put shortage of manpower and our muddled thinking. My heart sank with the subs on at 60 minutes.

For what ever reason, last summer, we didn't add enough strength in depth in the "effective premier league goal scorer" category. SO we have the squad we have.

Re Pearson: Surely it would be better to get a tactical mentor to help Nigel and enable him to be come a better premier league manager (..quickly) rather than go thru the turmoil of bringing in a new gov'na - i.e. get in a tactician, a psychologist and someone who will challenge Nigel's ideas(in the best possible way) so that he is encouraged to do better.

He is picking his best team and they are showing improvement - I think the owners should spend money to help Nigel not drop him now... though this is their call and it must be getting close.

 

I like your suggestion about bringing someone in to help. A coach with experience at having successfully prepared for set pieces (Guppy, perhaps? I don't know) wouldn't hurt.

 

That said, I think even within his limited options the changes should have been better. Albrighton for Mahrez, on its own, would at least have been logical. Or, if you must play Nugent, bring him into an attacking three, or bring off the clearly tired Vardy. It was a similar thing in one recent game when he played two target men with no recognised winger for the closing stages of a game. Some of the decision-making has been exceptionally poor - to the extent that it's been easy to predict how the rest of games will pan out, just purely because of the bizarre nature of the substitutions.

 

Someone made a point earlier that Pearson is the sort of manager who seems to have to deal on a fairly regular basis with a collapse in form - it's happened four of his six seasons with us - and appears to struggle with this. His record still speaks for itself, in spite of this, but I wonder sometimes about his 'nothing to see here' approach (today, for instance, he said our back five played well and he wouldn't get much sleep if he worried about his job - I'm not sure that a man should be getting much sleep when he's clearly not making a great fist of his job!) Is it really the best way to jolt a side back into shape? It's very, very different to O'Neill's response when we lost to Liverpool in 96 ('that was shocking, you will be punished if you play like that'), or Leeds in 97 (going up to the fans and apologising), in our last 'successful' promotion to the top flight.

[Harry - LCFC]

I cant believe some of the stuff you are posting recently! Do you think it doesn't matter to the travelling faithful who shell out their hard-earned to see us losing nearly every time.

I doubt you travel away...

 

How immature.

[LCFCSOULBOY]

Not really no. We're pretty average as fan base

Oh ok then. Thanks. I think.

Take care

[purpleronnie]

Brilliant!!! Bottom of the league concede 3 goals the sign of a quality team, Pearson lovers get ready as the arrogant clown will be sacked good riddance.  They will give him until Villa away, out of his depth and cant handle premier league players ego wise or tactically.

 

 

Look, we all have something to bring to this discussion. But I think from now on the thing you should bring is silence.

[FoxyPalace.com]

What, he should support another club because he's ashamed of people jumping on the sacking bandwagon (again - you lot didn't learn from 2 years ago)?

You know, I've heard about 3 City 'fans' incoherently calling for Pearson's head on Radio Moan-ins tonight. All 3 have been turfed off and laughed at. The reason? Anyone with a slightly balanced opinion can see we're a work in progress. Squads are developed over time, not in one transfer window.

I'm sick of the Pearson haters who jump in every time there's a a couple of defeats or a bad run. You're as bad as the fickle Scousers calling for Rodgers head. I laughed at you all when it clicked last season and I'll laugh at you all again, when Pearson gets the side firing. It's not just laughable calling for him to go after 13 games, it's plain thick. The people who called for O'Neill's head after 13 games were made to eat humble pie and the Pearson Hate Mob will do the same. I'm the first to admit the last few games haven't been great but I EXPECTED a rough patch. Maybe some of you were just deluded to expect anything else.

 

I am not sure the work in progress line will save his job in the board room. 

[Guest Col city fan]

How immature.

True? Let him answer the question.

Are you still a little ray of optimism Harry?

[inckley fox]

What, he should support another club because he's ashamed of people jumping on the sacking bandwagon (again - you lot didn't learn from 2 years ago)?

You know, I've heard about 3 City 'fans' incoherently calling for Pearson's head on Radio Moan-ins tonight. All 3 have been turfed off and laughed at. The reason? Anyone with a slightly balanced opinion can see we're a work in progress. Squads are developed over time, not in one transfer window.

I'm sick of the Pearson haters who jump in every time there's a a couple of defeats or a bad run. You're as bad as the fickle Scousers calling for Rodgers head. I laughed at you all when it clicked last season and I'll laugh at you all again, when Pearson gets the side firing. It's not just laughable calling for him to go after 13 games, it's plain thick. The people who called for O'Neill's head after 13 games were made to eat humble pie and the Pearson Hate Mob will do the same. I'm the first to admit the last few games haven't been great but I EXPECTED a rough patch. Maybe some of you were just deluded to expect anything else.

 

I'm not sure we can compare calling for O'Neill's head after thirteen games to calling for Pearson's after well over a hundred!

 

I don't think he should go yet and I'd love to see him seal our success at this level, but the bulk of clubs in this position choose to move their managers on and a significant percentage of them experience success from it. So I'm not sure it's as insane a viewpoint as you make out. 

 

For me we have to give him at least a couple more games. But we're no longer at the point where those who say 'he's had his chance' can be routinely laughed out of town.

[Harry - LCFC]

True? Let him answer the question.

Are you still a little ray of optimism Harry?

 

I wouldn't really call myself optimistic right now but I'm more positive about our situation than most it seems.