Tielemans63 Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 I'm seriously thinking of leaving the Pearsonite sect things are that bad.
johnny the fox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 I suppose the main reasons are that we are so close to being in our 'minimum finish target' placing of 17th and have played reasonably well these past two games. On top of that we have a January window just a month away and when he has been given a blank cheque book (if that's what you can call the first eight months of 2012) he's done a decent job with it. And if another manager comes in and doesn't have a blank cheque book he's probably going to be every bit as screwed as Pearson. Others will point to the fact that, in spite of some pretty disastrous past runs of form, he's tended to deliver the goods given time. For me, the main reason why I'd be reluctant to let go isn't so much to do with the past, but rather the present. The vast bulk of this squad have played together for two or three years, and have achieved success for this manager. He knows their strengths and weaknesses better than anyone, or at least he should, and the squad has been forged pretty much in his own images (think back to all those lines about how he knew who'd he'd prefer 'to be stuck in the trenches with'). But I appreciate that there are some well thought-out arguments that he should go. I'd suggest the tight fixture schedule will buy him at least a couple more games, but if they don't go to plan the arguments in his favour will be getting increasingly flimsy. What I don't buy is people saying that his position should be beyond question for the whole of the season, as if us being favourites for promotion in the Championship four years after being favourites for promotion in the Championship would represent progress. Neither do I buy the idea that changing managers pre-January more often than not signals the end for relegation strugglers, or that Pearson's bizarre decision-making since last June is in some way beyond reproach. And, while I'm at it, people talking about 'short memories' might also like to remember our points totals at this stage in the 2001-02 and 2003-04 seasons, which were roughly in line with what we've got now. I've said it a million times, there are good arguments for him to stay, and they probably win out, but some of Pearson's more fervent backers aren't helping the case. Pearson's more fervent backers aren't helping the case? you mean like the players?
GaelicFox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Bottom line is , can he turn this around , can he make this work Really over last 6-8 weeks the answer looks like NO I genuinely think he is one of a long line of good championship managers who just can't do it at this level Get Pulis in let him spend 30-40 million in Jan and roll the dice There is something wrong behind the scenes
MattGamble92 Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Sherwood did a great job with Tottenham last season and was unjustifiably sacked. He is a better Premier League manager then Pearson. Pulis has never been relegated as a manager and he gets results, it might be ugly but at this point I don't care. Why would Villas-Boas or Laudrup not come here? Both better managers then Pearson undoubtedly. It can't get any worse. Why are you embarrassed by people who have more ambition then you? I don't get it. You are suffering from small club syndrome my friend. Supporting a club like Burton Albion or Peterborough may be more appealing to you. Small club syndrome? Maybe I just don't have as short a memory that you do. No doubt you've hated Pearson all along and couldn't wait for this moment to come along. The alternatives that you've come up with show just how clueless you are. You complete and utter tool
inckley fox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Pearson's more fervent backers aren't helping the case? you mean like the players? I was talking about fans and how they go about arguing that Pearson is the man for the job. It's quite possible - and I personally hope - that he is. But all this stuff about 'short memories' and cries of 'where's the loyalty?' and 'who else is there out there?' and 'it would be a disaster to get rid' and 'blame the players' and 'shut up you cretin' and 'stick with him no matter what' and so on don't constitute a solid counter-argument. The reasons I listed above for keeping the manager are actually concrete reasons as opposed to emotional responses which, whether pro or anti the manager, hardly bring anything to the discussion. Maybe you disagree with my thoughts, maybe they're all complete bollocks, but they're real practical reasons for keeping Pearson. I don't get why the discussion ends up being so black and white, so aggressive, and so full of flimsy emotional outpourings.
stevebrock Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Who signed most of the inept players on the field today? Whoever it was, should be gone. No more excuses of need to take our chances etc. We are pathetic all over the park. No just at scoring goals but defending is lousy. I am tired of the excuses why Pearson should not go. A defender in his day and he cannot identify a decent defender, alone not organise one. I thought with our run of fixtures next next few weeks we could be bottom at Christmas. Looks as though my Christmas has come early. GET HIM OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON"T WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE SMUG INTERVIEWS WITH HIM IN A LEICESTER TRACK SUITE>>>>ENOUGH IS ENOUGH I have completely lost all respect for what he did for us last season, now. I am sad but we do need to try something else now. Burnley not lost in 3 QPR playing better, looking like they can cause problems. US. Completely hopeless all over the field. Sorry but no more excuses. Hope he's sacked by the morning. Sensible post that i agree with it all
The Doctor Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Go and join isis or some other fanatic sect and give the pearsonite religion a rest you clown. You would literally back him if burnt the stadium down and ran off with your wife Being in a sect is not healthy sunshine so you really should seek some help The rest of us know pearson is the problem and your excuses of who do we get in blah blah are a little boring now. Pearson has taken us to the bottom of the division - it doesn't get worse you egit You should take up politics clown or do anything other than pretend to support our great club the intelligent fans will continue to support our club whilst the likes of you can continue to lick and taste your hero's bottom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The proof is when a new manager comes in you will not support him because are simply a pathetic troll so get off this site can crawl back to your sect Having gotten us into the division in the first place. I'm not saying he's definitely right for us at this level, and that he seems incapable of turning this around is worrying, but if you think he's a failure for us, well you sir need to unplug your computer and go have a long hard think, because you're clearly a bit simple.
Guest ttfn Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 A massive plus from the last couple of games has been Cambiasso. I really thought he'd struggle in a "2" in midfield and he certainly needs a player with an "engine" next to him, but he's been a class apart for a lot of the last couple of games and as bad as the last few weeks have been it's nice to think we've got a genuinely classy player to watch if nothing else.
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 A massive plus from the last couple of games has been Cambiasso. I really thought he'd struggle in a "2" in midfield and he certainly needs a player with an "engine" next to him, but he's been a class apart for a lot of the last couple of games and as bad as the last few weeks have been it's nice to think we've got a genuinely classy player to watch if nothing else. Being classy in a side that is bottom is no accolade really. I'd rather have a solid, tough, cohesive team. I'm not bothered about individuals now. We need to sort this mess out as a team.
Tielemans63 Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 The way some of these posters come out of the woodwork when times are bad is pretty embarrassing. At least the consistent Pearson haters are consistent!
MGLCFC Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Did anyone honestly think this season would be easy. 17th would be a real plus for me this season and one win against Liverpool on Tuesday may well propel us to that position. Let's be honest we are struggling at this level, but not out of our depth. A couple of wins and we could be around 15th. Stick with Pearson, as I really don't see anyone coming in and doing better.
GingerrrFox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Being classy in a side that is bottom is no accolade really. I'd rather have a solid, tough, cohesive team. I'm not bothered about individuals now. We need to sort this mess out as a team. You aren't half posting some shite tonight. We score more of those chances today and we win that game. You can keep your midfield of Lee Cattermole and Wilson Palacios thanks.
johnny the fox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 I was talking about fans and how they go about arguing that Pearson is the man for the job. It's quite possible - and I personally hope - that he is. But all this stuff about 'short memories' and cries of 'where's the loyalty?' and 'who else is there out there?' and 'it would be a disaster to get rid' and 'blame the players' and 'shut up you cretin' and 'stick with him no matter what' and so on don't constitute a solid counter-argument. The reasons I listed above for keeping the manager are actually concrete reasons as opposed to emotional responses which, whether pro or anti the manager, hardly bring anything to the discussion. Maybe you disagree with my thoughts, maybe they're all complete bollocks, but they're real practical reasons for keeping Pearson. I don't get why the discussion ends up being so black and white, so aggressive, and so full of flimsy emotional outpourings. So anybody who doesn't want to take leap into the dark and not sack the manager at this time is only motivated by emotion? Or could it be some us have been around long enough with this club to realize that sacking a manager in panic is not always a magic bullet?
inckley fox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 The way some of these posters come out of the woodwork when times are bad is pretty embarrassing. At least the consistent Pearson haters are consistent! The biggest thing I see coming out of the woodwork is a notion that time might be up for Pearson and, in some cases, it's coming from people who have previously been behind him. It should come as no surprise that fans of a side who are falling deeper into the relegation zone and being outperformed by sides who were below them last season are increasingly unhappy with their manager. It's the same at every club. And, at the bulk of clubs who find themselves in our current position in this league, the concern is in the boardroom as well as on the terraces. We can't keep laughing off the argument that he could / should be on his way out. Keep Pearson? I think we should, for now at least. But the argument that he should go is far from a crazy one, and it's exactly what you're likely to get from any club in our predicament.
inckley fox Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 You aren't half posting some shite tonight. We score more of those chances today and we win that game. You can keep your midfield of Lee Cattermole and Wilson Palacios thanks. And if QPR had scored most of their 32 attempts on goal, if that figure is correct, they would have comfortably won. So I'm not sure we can use that argument.
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 You aren't half posting some shite tonight. We score more of those chances today and we win that game. You can keep your midfield of Lee Cattermole and Wilson Palacios thanks.As I said earlier, now is not the time to be giving it the big un. When we are fourth from bottom and playing better football I'll listen to ya. However 'classy' Cambiasso is, he's still a pretty much ever present in a side that sits at the bottom of the division and is leaking goals for fun.You're making yourself look a little daft posting stuff like this tonight, particularly after Sunderland have held Chelsea to zero goals and Cattemole was, by many accounts, very good.
yorkie1999 Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 I think we'll do a Sunderland from last year. Take points off the big clubs because they'll give us space, but struggle against the rabble because we haven't got players who are up for a scrap.
Corky Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 32 shots is a bit misleading really. Half of them seemed to be Barton shooting wider and higher each time. The bigger worry was not dealing with crosses effectively and clearing the second balls in the box. In terms of real chances it was fairly even. Pearson will be on his way soon because the owners will look at January and having stuck with him through one bad run probably won't do after another. But anyone expecting Pulis to be a preacher of great football, or lots of ambition in away games compared to now is sorely wrong. He will get us organised like Palace and expect a lot of tight games. It also took him until March to get them going towards safety with a five match winning run. This will be close whoever is in charge.
Tielemans63 Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 The biggest thing I see coming out of the woodwork is a notion that time might be up for Pearson and, in some cases, it's coming from people who have previously been behind him. It should come as no surprise that fans of a side who are falling deeper into the relegation zone and being outperformed by sides who were below them last season are increasingly unhappy with their manager. It's the same at every club. And, at the bulk of clubs who find themselves in our current position in this league, the concern is in the boardroom as well as on the terraces. We can't keep laughing off the argument that he could / should be on his way out. Keep Pearson? I think we should, for now at least. But the argument that he should go is far from a crazy one, and it's exactly what you're likely to get from any club in our predicament. Err...that's all well and good but that wasn't really my point mate. My point is that there are quite a few posters on here who never bothered to post during our record-breaking season last year and now we're doing badly they're all over it like rash. As I said, a bit embarrassing in my opinion.
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Being classy in a side that is bottom is no accolade really. I'd rather have a solid, tough, cohesive team. I'm not bothered about individuals now. We need to sort this mess out as a team. Col in passive aggressive shot at Cambiasso's recent good form shocker.
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 And if QPR had scored most of their 32 attempts on goal, if that figure is correct, they would have comfortably won. So I'm not sure we can use that argument. That figures correct. They had 58% of the ball as well and had more shots on target, I think most people's gripe with today is we wasted better chances?
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 Col in passive aggressive shot at Cambiasso's recent good form shocker. I think with some of what you've posted this season Manwell you better lay low for a while..
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 November 2014 Posted 29 November 2014 I think with some of what you've posted this season Manwell you better lay low for a while.. Oh yeah, Give me some examples then, says the man who gave us Lee Clattermole. I said Cambiasso was a great signing and he's currently one of the few looking good enough to get us out of this, even my reservations about UIloa are slowly starting to look like they were warranted.
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