harwich fox Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 It's not his fault though, who on earth selects him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 I do cringe at how desperate to lay into the bloke people are. It's as simple as he isn't good enough for this level. Worst defender in PL history? Worst defender we've had? Absolute joke. Goldfish memories. I'd have him out the side but it's a shame how vigorously our fans turn on our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 Thought he was actually amongst our better performers in the first 10-12 games of the season. Since then however he's looked massively out of his depth. Dropping Was who has been our best defender to keep Wes in the side is inexcusable.. He's not helped by playing in a defence which also has appalling full backs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller7 Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 After watching An out of form Fernando Torres completely tear big Wes apart at Stamford bridge in the FA cup a few years back I'm astonished that Pearson & everybody else thought he would be good enough for the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 I do cringe at how desperate to lay into the bloke people are. It's as simple as he isn't good enough for this level. Worst defender in PL history? Worst defender we've had? Absolute joke. Goldfish memories. I'd have him out the side but it's a shame how vigorously our fans turn on our players. They turn so quickly, I mean what is it, 27 games, 18 points and a goal difference of minus 20? No patience some follk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 After watching An out of form Fernando Torres completely tear big Wes apart at Stamford bridge in the FA cup a few years back I'm astonished that Pearson & everybody else thought he would be good enough for the premier league In fairness he had Bamba along side him at that point - expecting essentially one man to keep chelsea quiet is a big ask - and wes had a decent start to the season, outfought Lukaku, kept Costa quiet for 89 minutes... They turn so quickly, I mean what is it, 27 games, 18 points and a goal difference of minus 20? No patience some follk. Completely irrelevant to what he said - Wes hasn't had a good season, he's probably not cut out for this level but I've seen worse centre backs here in this decade (anyone for McGivern or Bruma?), let alone in all our history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 6 March 2015 Share Posted 6 March 2015 In fairness he had Bamba along side him at that point - expecting essentially one man to keep chelsea quiet is a big ask - and wes had a decent start to the season, outfought Lukaku, kept Costa quiet for 89 minutes... Completely irrelevant to what he said - Wes hasn't had a good season, he's probably not cut out for this level but I've seen worse centre backs here in this decade (anyone for McGivern or Bruma?), let alone in all our history... At this level of football Wes is the worst CB I've seen in a city shirt, with the possible exception of Jacob Laursen. Any other season keeping Lukaku quiet would be admirable, this season not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 They turn so quickly, I mean what is it, 27 games, 18 points and a goal difference of minus 20? No patience some follk. Nice try. I'm talking about those who are seemingly forgetting anything prior to this season. "One of the worst defenders I've seen in a City shirt" being a perfect example of a goldfish-like comment. He isn't good enough for this league. I'd have him straight out the side now. But I do cringe at the way some cannot wait to lay into anyone who isn't quite good enough. Lack of effort I can't forgive. Lack of ability = drop them but absolutely laying into them for it is a bit harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMYWILLIS Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 In fairness he had Bamba along side him at that point - expecting essentially one man to keep chelsea quiet is a big ask - and wes had a decent start to the season, outfought Lukaku, kept Costa quiet for 89 minutes... Completely irrelevant to what he said - Wes hasn't had a good season, he's probably not cut out for this level but I've seen worse centre backs here in this decade (anyone for McGivern or Bruma?), let alone in all our history... Lukaku beat himself mainly at the away game. He isn't an intelligent player and has been found out And games are longer than 89 mins... Don't blame Morgan though, he doesn't pixk the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 7 March 2015 Author Share Posted 7 March 2015 Lukaku beat himself mainly at the away game. He isn't an intelligent player and has been found out And games are longer than 89 mins... Don't blame Morgan though, he doesn't pixk the team Thats a good point about not picking the team. Just about a Pearson fan but were going down if he keeps playing Morgan,probably if he drops him we will but at least see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 Jesus. Completely agree with DAN LCFC.. Ok, he's been poor recently but are peoples memories that short lived? Last season he was immense. People on here literally couldn't praise him enough. He was the best defender we'd had at that level for years. And he did well for 12-15 games this year. Ok he's not been great since but if he's in the side most weeks can people just support the bloke at least! He has very good physical attributes and exceptional commitment! The amount of shots blocked last year and at times this year has been class. There was a stat after the first ten games where Wes had blocked more attempts by a country mile than any other defender in the premier league. Certainly not saying he's untouchable or anything of that nature. And yes he does lack the footballing brain / reading of the game at this level, but he's been a phenomenal servant over the last 3 years and most probably will be again next year in the Championship so give the guy a bloody break will some of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickov22 Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 Jesus. Completely agree with DAN LCFC.. Ok, he's been poor recently but are peoples memories that short lived? Last season he was immense. People on here literally couldn't praise him enough. He was the best defender we'd had at that level for years. And he did well for 12-15 games this year. Ok he's not been great since but if he's in the side most weeks can people just support the bloke at least! He has very good physical attributes and exceptional commitment! The amount of shots blocked last year and at times this year has been class. There was a stat after the first ten games where Wes had blocked more attempts by a country mile than any other defender in the premier league. Certainly not saying he's untouchable or anything of that nature. And yes he does lack the footballing brain / reading of the game at this level, but he's been a phenomenal servant over the last 3 years and most probably will be again next year in the Championship so give the guy a bloody break will some of you. Well said. Hasn't been as bad as some are suggesting even. He's better than Upson for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 Jesus. Completely agree with DAN LCFC.. Ok, he's been poor recently but are peoples memories that short lived? Last season he was immense. People on here literally couldn't praise him enough. He was the best defender we'd had at that level for years. And he did well for 12-15 games this year. Ok he's not been great since but if he's in the side most weeks can people just support the bloke at least! He has very good physical attributes and exceptional commitment! The amount of shots blocked last year and at times this year has been class. There was a stat after the first ten games where Wes had blocked more attempts by a country mile than any other defender in the premier league. Certainly not saying he's untouchable or anything of that nature. And yes he does lack the footballing brain / reading of the game at this level, but he's been a phenomenal servant over the last 3 years and most probably will be again next year in the Championship so give the guy a bloody break will some of you. Last season was in the Championship, a league Morgan knows pretty much inside out thanks to his Championship experience. The Premier League is a somewhat different ballgame and I'm afraid he's been found out at this level way too often - just like a handful of other players. He is a good, reliable and solid defender in Championship terms, but at age 31, it'll take a miracle for him to improve his game and getting even better. Which is required in the top flight. As for the regular "blocked shots" stat - that doesn't help at all when you consider the amount of times he's cost us due to own goals, slip-ups, bad positioning, bad clearances, not holding the defensive line, bad marking or carelessly giving the ball away. I'd expect better from a team captain - he's supposed to be a role model within the squad. I wish Morgan a happy and successful remaining career, I thank him for being an integral part in previously successful times - I do hope he proves us all wrong by putting in the shift of his lifetime in the remaining games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 At this level of football Wes is the worst CB I've seen in a city shirt, with the possible exception of Jacob Laursen. Any other season keeping Lukaku quiet would be admirable, this season not so much. Steve Howey? Either you've not been watching longer than five years or you've got a really short memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 To be honest i don't think he's been as bad as many are making him out to be. I'm not saying he's been great and i'd also drop him for Was. It's unfair to blame some of the goals we've conceeded on him in my opinion. Man City for example, he blocked Silva's shot and it was unfortunate the ball just happened to stay there for Silva to get another chance. If he hadn't made the block in the first place and Silva had scored then everyone would be blaming Morgan for not trying to block it, Liverpool at home, he blocked a cross and the ball fell straight to Gerrard, well where were the midfielders? someone should have been covering Gerrard and if they were in the right position on the edge of the area they would have cleared it. Wes will always try and block shots and crosses and put his body on the line, at the start of the season he was getting so much praise because they were good blocks, now he's been more unfortunate and the ball is falling to opposition or he scores and OG. A lot of the criticism is hugely unfair, however, i'm not saying that he hasn't been at fault for quite a few goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 Steve Howey? Either you've not been watching longer than five years or you've got a really short memory. I can remember precisely how bad Howey was (I doubt Howey can though), and he was still better than Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Fox Posted 7 March 2015 Share Posted 7 March 2015 Morgan has to be the worst player in the league. It's a total embarrassment having this buffoon captain our team. Just ask Jamician fans what they think of him. God , it was so obvious in the summer he wouldn't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 This thread is embarrassing..... I think majority of city fans will agree he maybe needs a rest/dropped whatever you want to call it but to call him the worst defender in prem history and we need to get rid ASAP etc is just plain nonsense! First couple of months of the season, he was easily our best defender but since then he has been found out a bit and looked weary to me...... Having said that, other than Cambiasso, he was our best player against Everton It seems to be the theme on this forum that when someone has a loss of form or struggles in a few games, he needs to be sold immediately, he's terrible, worst player we've had etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 8 March 2015 Author Share Posted 8 March 2015 To be honest i don't think he's been as bad as many are making him out to be. I'm not saying he's been great and i'd also drop him for Was. It's unfair to blame some of the goals we've conceeded on him in my opinion. Man City for example, he blocked Silva's shot and it was unfortunate the ball just happened to stay there for Silva to get another chance. If he hadn't made the block in the first place and Silva had scored then everyone would be blaming Morgan for not trying to block it, Liverpool at home, he blocked a cross and the ball fell straight to Gerrard, well where were the midfielders? someone should have been covering Gerrard and if they were in the right position on the edge of the area they would have cleared it. Wes will always try and block shots and crosses and put his body on the line, at the start of the season he was getting so much praise because they were good blocks, now he's been more unfortunate and the ball is falling to opposition or he scores and OG. A lot of the criticism is hugely unfair, however, i'm not saying that he hasn't been at fault for quite a few goals Collapsing in front of every shot ,sliding on his arse at every cross ,taking an extra touch instead of clearing it and failing to head the ball clear is how he defends. Gets away with it at lower level but in the prem its been an embarrassment. The liverpool at home defending by Morgan was the worse performance i have ever seen(watch the highlights) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettsj2 Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 Steve Howey? Either you've not been watching longer than five years or you've got a really short memory. You obviously cant remember and are just plucking names. Howey when he actually played looked decent. In fact, the only time we looked defensively sound that season was when Howey was paired with Scimeca. I agree though Wes us nowhere near the worst centre back at this level we've had. Mohan, Carey and Laursen just 3 examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 You obviously cant remember and are just plucking names. Howey when he actually played looked decent. In fact, the only time we looked defensively sound that season was when Howey was paired with Scimeca. I agree though Wes us nowhere near the worst centre back at this level we've had. Mohan, Carey and Laursen just 3 examples. Nicky Mohan was also the shiny sticker in the panini album that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettsj2 Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 Nicky Mohan was also the shiny sticker in the panini album that year. That was about the best thing about him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy1981 Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 If Man city can drop Company, we can drop Morgan. A centre pairing if Huth and Upson is the best option at the moment and let's use the extra player by sticking Vardy or Ulloa up top with kram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeFalcon Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 he's so easy to get past though, just dummy a shot and wait for him to drop to the floor, sadly definetly not cut out for the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 8 March 2015 Share Posted 8 March 2015 A song for Wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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