ScouseFox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Your fundamental lack of understanding of the world, life and everything in it hurts my brain.
kingfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Your fundamental lack of understanding of the transfer market hurts my brain. For saying he isn't worth £8-10 million. Nobody will ever come in with a bid that high for Mahrez.
adamlcfcbevo85 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 That's the best most stupid thing I've read on here tonight. Thank you for making my day. Mahrez selling at £12m to £15m. hmmm let's think about this shall we , zaha was a championship winger sold to man utd for 15 mill 3-4 years ago while they was playing in the championship , mahrez is miles better than zaha but because he is not english doesn't mean he's worth less
Guest ttfn Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 For saying he isn't worth £8-10 million. Nobody will ever come in with a bid that high for Mahrez. That's not the point. He's worth £10 million to us.
ScouseFox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 he's been comfortably our biggest attacking threat in literally every game he's played. he's superb. you're an idiot.
Guest MattP Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Why? Tell me mate, what has he done this season that others haven't? Even Schlupp has scored more than him, Schlupp has the same amount of assists as him. Stop talking like he is god's gift, in terms of natural ability he is probably our best player, but he is inconsistent & doesn't show what he is capable of week in week out. Would I take £4 million for him, yes I bloody would, because quite frankly he isn't worth £8-10 million like some of you idiots are saying. Schulpp has two, he has one. Mahrez has created more chances than any other player, if we had clinical strikers the assist tally wouldn't even be a contest. Hard to blame him for something he has no control over. Young players are inconsistent, that's why you nature them to achieve their best, you certainly don't throw away your most creative player when you struggle to create chances for peanuts. What does he do that others haven't? Beat players and create shit loads of chances for us
MC Prussian Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 hmmm let's think about this shall we , zaha was a championship winger sold to man utd for 15 mill 3-4 years ago while they was playing in the championship , mahrez is miles better than zaha but because he is not english doesn't mean he's worth less Zaha was sold for £10m and that fee could potentially rise up to £15m. What has Zaha done so far to warrant that asking price? How often is a Championship player sold for more than £10m, £12m? What makes you think Mahrez is "miles better" than Zaha, when he has shown only glimpses of his talent at this level? Right now, £4m to £5m is about right. But that's already pushing it. Riyad has a bit to make up this season - the games in December as well as the AFCON job should be a better indicator as to in what direction he's going. I could take your last sentence and turn it around to give you a better picture of what I mean: Just because they're English, some footballers are already overhyped before they've even kicked a ball, when they are in fact (with a few exceptions) massively overpaid and overrated.
kingfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Schulpp has two, he has one. Mahrez has created more chances than any other player, if we had clinical strikers the assist tally wouldn't even be a contest. Hard to blame him for something he has no control over. Young players are inconsistent, that's why you nature them to achieve their best, you certainly don't throw away your most creative player when you struggle to create chances for peanuts. What does he do that others haven't? Beat players and create shit loads of chances for us Ulloa is clinical, his shots to goal ratio is quite good, but Mahrez is a player who likes to cut inside, beat players, play through balls. Ulloa is at his best when crosses are whipped into him, if players like Mahrez & Knockaert keep wanting to come inside, then I can't see Ulloa scoring many goals, play to his strengths by whipping crosses into him, if Mahrez does that more often then he might have more assists. Not just our young players who have been inconsistent, all our squad has in my opinion. Ulloa top form start of the season then hits a drought, Morgan fairly solid but has looked sloppy in some games also, same applies to De Laet, Konchesky, James, Schlupp & Mahrez himself. Is £4 million really peanuts, I think that's a reasonable price for him but that's my opinion and you and others are entitled to think different. Is Ulloa worth £8 million say, was Wilfried Zaha worth £10 million, Luke Shaw £30 million of course not but then that's the English market for you. Foreign market is different, look at players like Demba Ba he went quite cheaply to Turkey. I was talking in terms of goals & assists, but yep he does beat players & create chances, but still at the end of the day fans vastly overrate him.
sylofox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 There are 2 factors to his value. What we want. What someone will pay. Untill an offer is made and we respond you can all guess. Nige may be happy to take 5m but if they offer 6m opening shot I am sure Nige will refuse it. Just as if they offer 3m I would expect us to say no try 10m if we want to keep him. Really guessing atm is a silly game we don't know there budgets and we don't know Nigels plans.
Guest MattP Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 Is £4 million really peanuts, I think that's a reasonable price for him but that's my opinion and you and others are entitled to think different. Is Ulloa worth £8 million say, was Wilfried Zaha worth £10 million, Luke Shaw £30 million of course not but then that's the English market for you. Foreign market is different, look at players like Demba Ba he went quite cheaply to Turkey. I was talking in terms of goals & assists, but yep he does beat players & create chances, but still at the end of the day fans vastly overrate him. Demba Ba (and many others) are offloaded on the cheap in terms of fees purely because of the long contracts and wages that they are on. I doubt Mahrez is on too much considering he came from Ligue 2. Zaha and Shaw went for huge deals because huge clubs wanted them, Roma are also a huge club so that fee should be very high if they want him.
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 At the minute I have to agree with kingfox, mahrez isnt worth 8-10m. Nowhere near infact, but if he can consistently make good decisions then this price will increase dramatically. On that basis I can't see a massive offer being made for him. To pay a huge amount for him would be a gamble for any team. The fact we got him for 400k should tell people that.
MHC Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 3 million?! What a joke, in today's market he is worth so much more then that. Ross Mccormack went to Fulham for 11 million in the summer! As you all know prices in January are inflated quite drastically and if you take into account that he is one of our most creative and important players and we need him to stand any chance of surviving I'd say he is worth (to us currently) no less then 15 million.
ScouseFox Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 it's not about what he's worth as a player in terms of his ability, 3 or 4 million is probably about right there, it's what he's worth to us. is he probably our best player? yes. is he definitely our biggest creative threat? yes. is him staying going to give us more of a chance of staying up (and getting hundreds of millions for it)? yes. do we have any reason to sell him (financially, to fund someone else etc)? not at all. is it half way through the season so we don't have a massive amount of time to find any replacement? it is you know. so should we sell him for 4 million pounds? if you are an absolute ****ing idiot, maybe.
MHC Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 it's not about what he's worth as a player in terms of his ability, 3 or 4 million is probably about right there, it's what he's worth to us. is he probably our best player? yes. is he definitely our biggest creative threat? yes. is him staying going to give us more of a chance of staying up (and getting hundreds of millions for it)? yes. do we have any reason to sell him (financially, to fund someone else etc)? not at all. is it half way through the season so we don't have a massive amount of time to find any replacement? it is you know. so should we sell him for 4 million pounds? if you are an absolute ****ing idiot, maybe. Bang on this is.
davieG Posted 16 December 2014 Author Posted 16 December 2014 It's all about....... Brinkmanship DEFINITION OF 'BRINKMANSHIP'A negotiating technique in which one party aggressively pursues a set of terms ostensibly to the point at which the other party in the negotiation must either agree or halt negotiations. Brinkmanship is so named because one party pushes the other to the "brink" or edge of what that party is willing to accommodate. As a sales strategy, brinkmanship is most often used with new customers and requires the salesman to identify and attack the customer's "pain points". INVESTOPEDIA EXPLAINS 'BRINKMANSHIP'Companies pursuing a brinkmanship approach to negotiating may be bluffing, as they would be willing to accept terms more agreeable to the other party. It is a risky approach in that it may alienate the other party and cause a failure in negotiations in which no party does business. The rewards are potentially greater than a more amiable negotiation, since the more aggressive is more likely to gain better terms if the process is successful.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 He's worth much more than £3m to us, end of. Can see him wanting to leave, he's solidified his International place and every reason to think he can achieve at a much higher level.
Stadt Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 He's worth £30 million to us Because we don't need or want to sell
AKCJ Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 He's worth more than 3m full stop. Stop trying to be clever. He puts fullbacks on their arse weekly and his potential is worth two or three times this pathetic valuation.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 If Pearson sells Mahrez, I will be seriously infuriated.
theessexfox Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 Kingfox in trying to be different shocker. Yeah Schlupp is fantastic let's release Mahrez on a free.
kingfox Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 Kingfox in trying to be different shocker. Yeah Schlupp is fantastic let's release Mahrez on a free. I'm just saying fans rate him too highly, when in a matter of fact he has been very inconsistent which is true. Two season's ago fans like ScouseFox, Wookie, Matt were probably saying the same thing about Knockaert, and now for me it's no surprise to see him languishing with the Under 21's. Mahrez is seriously good on his day, but saying his has the opposition on their arses week in week out, he is our best player, don't sell for less than £10 million is quite frankly fookin ridiculous.
gazfox9 Posted 16 December 2014 Posted 16 December 2014 At the minute I have to agree with kingfox, mahrez isnt worth 8-10m. Nowhere near infact, but if he can consistently make good decisions then this price will increase dramatically. On that basis I can't see a massive offer being made for him. To pay a huge amount for him would be a gamble for any team. The fact we got him for 400k should tell people that. Didn't we only pay 400k because he was out of contract in the summer?
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