kingfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Schlupp is frustrating. Not quite as awful as some make out, but still someone I'm not convinced is good enough. It just amazes me how when watching the two anyone can believe Schlupp is a better player. Mahrez has more than 'a bit of flair'. Look at some of the through balls he plays. Superb vision to go with his skill. He would flourish in a better side IMO and would have a hell of a lot more assists. He'd be on at least five if it wasn't for poor finishing. I find Mahrez frustrating also, as someone alluded to away from home he hasn't been great. With Mahrez you will always get flashes of brilliance from him in a match, but you will also get some bad, his first touch in particular can be so good at times, but then it can also be poor. His passing at times can be bloody dreadful, the Swansea game in particular comes to mind, the right-side of De Laet & Mahrez were absolutely pathetic in that match, he can also be lazy defensively and like Schlupp can make some poor decisions when on the ball, evidence of this was at the weekend when he decided to try and run through five Man City players, when Simpson was in acres of space out wide, and I saw Simpson give him a bollocking for it & tbh I don't blame him. Me personally I've never said Schlupp is a better player, it just frustrates me when you have fans who write him off entirely, yet for me he can be very useful & effective at times. Mahrez has the flair & that's what fans love to see, that's why they love him & Knockaert in particular but he is also very inconsistent. We all love it when he cuts inside, plays one of those exceptional through ball passes, but there's times where he is incredibly frustrating to watch.
Matt Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 When we are linked with players "No chance." "Agent talk" "Lazy journalism" Our player get linked and it's 100% true. I makes me laugh when people write things off from in the media, whether it be newspapers, radio, e.t.c yet when some nobody on Twitter post's something a massive thread about it.
StanSP Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 In this market, we should only be accepting of any offer that is 3x that quoted.
RedSoxUK Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Mahrez is our best player, and still our best prospect. Would never sell for anything less than 12m, and only to a team far greater than us as he will in the future - deservedly so.
MrSpaM Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I'd be dissapointed if we sold him for any less than we bought Leo for tbh. Why should we be receiving peanuts for the transfer when we were getting our pants pulled down in the summer every single time we wanted to sign anybody. Were not desperate for the money so he should be asking a ridiculous fee.
MPH Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 3m is quite insulting. First bids are all about testing the water.. start off too high and you'll bankrupt yourself
Callabinho Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Let him go to Villarreal, but only if Vietto comes the other way.
Dan Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I find Mahrez frustrating also, as someone alluded to away from home he hasn't been great. With Mahrez you will always get flashes of brilliance from him in a match, but you will also get some bad, his first touch in particular can be so good at times, but then it can also be poor. His passing at times can be bloody dreadful, the Swansea game in particular comes to mind, the right-side of De Laet & Mahrez were absolutely pathetic in that match, he can also be lazy defensively and like Schlupp can make some poor decisions when on the ball, evidence of this was at the weekend when he decided to try and run through five Man City players, when Simpson was in acres of space out wide, and I saw Simpson give him a bollocking for it & tbh I don't blame him. Me personally I've never said Schlupp is a better player, it just frustrates me when you have fans who write him off entirely, yet for me he can be very useful & effective at times. Mahrez has the flair & that's what fans love to see, that's why they love him & Knockaert in particular but he is also very inconsistent. We all love it when he cuts inside, plays one of those exceptional through ball passes, but there's times where he is incredibly frustrating to watch. He can be frustrating but I can forgive him for trying things on his own when the others so regularly seem to not actually contribute enough themselves in an attacking sense. It's like when we had Wellens & King. I think King's the better player so it's probably a poor example but Wellens used to try things King would never try and created goals as a result, despite losing the ball more often. Mahrez is often let down by his team-mates. I agree he's not great defensively but not quite as bad as he's made out to be. Schlupp hasn't got enough of a brain when on the ball and suffers from really poor decision making. I'm not even convinced it's his technique that's the problem anymore, it's just not having a clue what to do. I prefer him at left back to left wing as he's not a very good dribbler, despite his pace. I really do think Mahrez would flourish in a better side where he's given more freedom to wreak havoc. Where the runs of his team-mates are better and where he isn't having to do as much defending. Time will tell because I'm pretty sure he'll be at a better side in time.
ballisimo Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 If an offer in the region of 7 millions comes in, except and replace with Nathan Redmond and Scott Sinclair.
sdb Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 £3mill? £6mill would be an easy 'no' so unless there's a clause this seems ridiculous. Easily the player with the most potential and raw talent in our squad.
whoareyaaa Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Never in a million years is he worth 8 million.what's he done? 3 mill is right. his right foot is worth 3 million
kingfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 He can be frustrating but I can forgive him for trying things on his own when the others so regularly seem to not actually contribute enough themselves in an attacking sense. It's like when we had Wellens & King. I think King's the better player so it's probably a poor example but Wellens used to try things King would never try and created goals as a result, despite losing the ball more often. Mahrez is often let down by his team-mates. I agree he's not great defensively but not quite as bad as he's made out to be. Schlupp hasn't got enough of a brain when on the ball and suffers from really poor decision making. I'm not even convinced it's his technique that's the problem anymore, it's just not having a clue what to do. I prefer him at left back to left wing as he's not a very good dribbler, despite his pace. I really do think Mahrez would flourish in a better side where he's given more freedom to wreak havoc. Where the runs of his team-mates are better and where he isn't having to do as much defending. Time will tell because I'm pretty sure he'll be at a better side in time. I get you, but of course your going to get that from him because that's the type of player he is, he is our most attacking threat from midfield. On King I like players like King more than I do players like Mahrez & Knockaert, because I like players who work hard, get stuck in at both ends of the field & keep it simple. The likes of King & James don't get enough credit for the things they do sometimes, right now I'd go as far as saying that Andy King is our best midfielder, the only thing I want to see him from is goals, make those Lampard bursting runs from midfield like we used to see from him, and he could well get 10+ a season. Our problem for me this season has been the lack of consistency, every player to be honest has played well at some point this season, but every player has lacked consistency. One week Mahrez is one of our best players, then a week later he can put in a bang average frustrating performance. Schlupp for me links well with players, and can utilise his pace and isn't afraid to skip past players, we saw evidence of this at the weekend where he won quite a few free kicks, because of his quick turns & quick drives through midfield. He is better defensively than the likes of Knockaert & Mahrez, but as you say his decision making at times can be poor, but that doesn't make him a bad player, he has performed very well at times this season, and in some games where he hasn't played so well, I don't think it's been a case of being shit, we just don't get him in the game enough. Going by what you say in the last bit, Mahrez might not suit our style of play then? Maybe we need more hard working wingers, who can work better defensively & whip in crosses. Mahrez is the type who likes to cut inside, in the past we've had wingers who like to skip past the byline and whip in crosses, Ben Marshall for instance not the most gifted of players & pretty inconsistent himself, but you could always rely on an assist or two from him.
Richard Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 On ability, £3m probably isn't too far away from his true value, he's had half an average season at top flight level with some glimpses of something special, but that's all it is: glimpses. However it depends on how we value him. Is Ulloa worth £8m? No. Is McGoldrick worth £7.5m? Not a chance, that#s just the price they were prepared to accept to let him go
MC Prussian Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 We're better off waiting and seeing how he delivers at the AFCON in January. I'm sure his market value is bound to increase sooner than later. Could hit it big. Could, but he needs to stack up on his decision-making and his shooting some more.
Guest MattP Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Some of you lot are absolutely bonkers. When sides at the top of good European leagues are taking interest in your players it's probably a good idea to ask why rather than say get rid he's inconsistent, he our best winger by a country mile and the best at something we struggle at. The one player we've got who drifts past premier league defenders often with ease. Some saying they'd sell as his defensive work isn't up to it? Shall we sell De Leat as he doesn't score goals? This is a club that coughed up 8 million for ****ing Gervinho in the summer and some would take 3 for Mahrez in Jan. You've lost your bloody minds some of you..
Buzzell Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Some of you lot are absolutely bonkers. When sides at the top of good European leagues are taking interest in your players it's probably a good idea to ask why rather than say get rid he's inconsistent, he our best winger by a country mile and the best at something we struggle at. The one player we've got who drifts past premier league defenders often with ease. Some saying they'd sell as his defensive work isn't up to it? Shall we sell De Leat as he doesn't score goals? This is a club that coughed up 8 million for ****ing Gervinho in the summer and some would take 3 for Mahrez in Jan. You've lost your bloody minds some of you.. Unfortunately that's what happens on a forum, people are entitled to their own opinions, whether they are talking sense or very idiot. Unfortunately for us the majority are very idiot.
adamlcfcbevo85 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 In today's market for a regular starting player in the prem and a winger , close to being the best player at the club at present your talking 12-15 million nothing less than that but knowing leicester because we are usually so bad at business we would probs sell for 750k and pay his wages at his new club aswel :-/
ScouseFox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 kingfox is going against the grain and making himself look like an idiot SHOCKER
whitlock Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 He is no where near the finished article and is very much finding his feet in this division. He does have his flaws but if he didn't he would be playing champions league football. The lad has so much potential and he is the spark to create or score something out of nothing. To let him go now would be criminal. If we sold him in January, we will regret it massively. He's a rough diamond. Keep at all costs for me.
tylesta Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 What's all this about big clubs knocking down prices because there bigger and can have the smaller clubs pants down?? luke shaw??
kingfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 kingfox is going against the grain and making himself look like an idiot SHOCKER Why? Tell me mate, what has he done this season that others haven't? Even Schlupp has scored more than him, Schlupp has the same amount of assists as him. Stop talking like he is god's gift, in terms of natural ability he is probably our best player, but he is inconsistent & doesn't show what he is capable of week in week out. Would I take £4 million for him, yes I bloody would, because quite frankly he isn't worth £8-10 million like some of you idiots are saying.
kingfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Some of you lot are absolutely bonkers. When sides at the top of good European leagues are taking interest in your players it's probably a good idea to ask why rather than say get rid he's inconsistent, he our best winger by a country mile and the best at something we struggle at. The one player we've got who drifts past premier league defenders often with ease. Some saying they'd sell as his defensive work isn't up to it? Shall we sell De Leat as he doesn't score goals? This is a club that coughed up 8 million for ****ing Gervinho in the summer and some would take 3 for Mahrez in Jan. You've lost your bloody minds some of you.. When sides at the top of good European leagues are taking interest...didn't Liverpool take an interest in Joe Mattock one time, he turned out well. Arsenal were linked with Knockaert weren't they...now mostly languishing with the under 21's. He is our best winger I agree, but he is still inconsistent & isn't the incredible player some people think he is. I'd happily see De Laet leave this club to be honest, and some other fans would agree with me on that tbh.
MC Prussian Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 In today's market for a regular starting player in the prem and a winger , close to being the best player at the club at present your talking 12-15 million nothing less than that but knowing leicester because we are usually so bad at business we would probs sell for 750k and pay his wages at his new club aswel :-/ That's the best most stupid thing I've read on here tonight. Thank you for making my day. Mahrez selling at £12m to £15m.
Guest ttfn Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Why? Tell me mate, what has he done this season that others haven't? Even Schlupp has scored more than him, Schlupp has the same amount of assists as him. Stop talking like he is god's gift, in terms of natural ability he is probably our best player, but he is inconsistent & doesn't show what he is capable of week in week out. Would I take £4 million for him, yes I bloody would, because quite frankly he isn't worth £8-10 million like some of you idiots are saying. Your fundamental lack of understanding of the transfer market hurts my brain.
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