Donut Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Were on a good recent run, Stoke apart, but I fear that after the game at our place, and Man Utd failing to get past Cambridge, this could be a spanking of dire proportions. I hope im wrong, but im thinking 3 or 4 nil in Uniteds favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Disappointed this thread isn't called "A must win game". How on earth could he have been criticised for sending off Blackett? Because they are Manure and they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggertvsWise Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Not sure if anyone would be interested but I did make a video montage to Kasabian's Ez-eh of City humping Man U. I almost chucked it as I thought it may have jinxed them but will happily share to get the blood pumping ahead of the weekend. If someone can tell me the best way to do this (I fear it may not last long on youtube due to copywrite laws) I'll pop it online. It's actually pretty good. PM me if anyone has any suggestions, it'd be a shame not to air it, it took me bloody long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 "King and Drinkwater are in wretched form". This may surprise you but it's possible for players to be playing well whilst the team is playing poorly and vice versa. You're right, we did equal the opposition in almost every department. ALMOST every department and it doesn't take a genius to work out where we didn't match them. Did you watch the game on Saturday? Did you heck and yet you still have the gumption to try to pick holes in something that is pretty universally acknowledged by anyone who watched the game judging by the player ratings threads (from those published so far King is rated at 4.2 and Drinkwater 4.0 for Spurs, hot on the heels of Stoke when King got 4.11 and Drinkwater 4.4). I'm a big fan of King (much less so Drinkwater, albeit I acknowledge he is the better player when both are at their best) but neither is playing at all well at the moment. This would appear to be the consensus given the ratings. Quite why you have used it, yet again, to have a pop at a pretty uncontroversial comment I'm not sure. King & Drinkwater were both absouletly woeful on Saturday. King and Drinkwater weren't at their best in some aspects on Saturday I agree, but let's not forget that we were playing 4-4-2 whilst Tottenham were playing 4-3-3/4-5-1. This meant that in the centre of the midfield it was 3 on 2 in Spurs' favour. They both did a job which allowed us to not get too dominated in that area (particularly second half) and to play the system that we wanted to in having two up front (Kramaric and Ulloa). Sometimes you have to look a little deeper at the jobs that players are doing to understand their worth to the team. If we ask King and Drinkwater to do a lot of running in the centre of the park and keep pushing Spurs players away from certain areas without diving into tackles they might not win then (as long as they do that) we don't have to match Spurs man for man. A lot of people failed to notice that on Saturday with them screaming at King and Drinkwater to "get stuck in", not realising that if they committed to tackles left, right and centre then they would constantly be getting the ball popped round them to the extra Spurs man. King in particular is a player that frequently suffers from this. He's very much a players' player and a manager's player because they understand the quality of the work that he does and what he contributes to the team. To those who can't look a little deeper on the terraces he's 'lightweight' or 'invisible'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Reckon Hamer Simpson Wasyl Wesyl De Laet (but prob Konch as NP loves him) Hammond Cambiasso Drinkwater Vardy Schlupp Ulloa Subs. Kramaric, Albrighton, Konchesky, Schwarzer, King, Nugent, Knockaert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 The Premier League has released its list of referees for week 23 of matches and the headline news is that Martin Atkinson has been chosen to referee the game between Manchester United and Leicester City at Old Trafford. During the reverse fixture between the sides Mark Clattenburg was heavily criticised by some for his performance, in particular his decision to award a penalty for a collision between Rafael and Jamie Vardy, seconds after the striker had appeared to barge the defender off the ball. Clattenburg was also criticised for the decision to send off United youngster Tyler Blackett. Clattenburg has arguably become the perceived scapegoat for a number of poor decisions this season by a host of referees as he has had to serve a number of weeks in the lower leagues of football. Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/confirmed-referee-appointments-for-week-23-with-martin-atkinson-in-charge-of-manchester-united/284757#OSRYweIMW8csxZLp.99 I know people are generally biased towards the bigger clubs but that is just plain laughable. We've had some absolutely appalling decisions go against us this season and I'm pretty sure Atkinson was behind one of them. How can people slag off the Blackett red card? It was a stone wall red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 King and Drinkwater weren't at their best in some aspects on Saturday I agree, but let's not forget that we were playing 4-4-2 whilst Tottenham were playing 4-3-3/4-5-1. This meant that in the centre of the midfield it was 3 on 2 in Spurs' favour. They both did a job which allowed us to not get too dominated in that area (particularly second half) and to play the system that we wanted to in having two up front (Kramaric and Ulloa). Sometimes you have to look a little deeper at the jobs that players are doing to understand their worth to the team. If we ask King and Drinkwater to do a lot of running in the centre of the park and keep pushing Spurs players away from certain areas without diving into tackles they might not win then (as long as they do that) we don't have to match Spurs man for man. A lot of people failed to notice that on Saturday with them screaming at King and Drinkwater to "get stuck in", not realising that if they committed to tackles left, right and centre then they would constantly be getting the ball popped round them to the extra Spurs man. King in particular is a player that frequently suffers from this. He's very much a players' player and a manager's player because they understand the quality of the work that he does and what he contributes to the team. To those who can't look a little deeper on the terraces he's 'lightweight' or 'invisible'. Spot on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanguedocFox Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 I know people are generally biased towards the bigger clubs but that is just plain laughable. We've had some absolutely appalling decisions go against us this season and I'm pretty sure Atkinson was behind one of them. How can people slag off the Blackett red card? It was a stone wall red That's a bit of editorialising by a Chelski-supporting amateur "journalist". No-one, not even Man U fans criticised Clattenburg for sending off Blackett. The penalty against Rafael was, shall we say, another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger the dodger Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 I'm hoping to see a repeat of this. no way defeat this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Clattenburg was also to blame for Rooney carelessly lobbing the ball straight to Dean Hammond before Cambiasso's goal and subsequently his head explosion at his team-mates for his woeful clearance and captaincy on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 think vardy's finish was clattenburg's fault too weren't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Spot on... Yeah, I thought King in particular was pretty decent on Saturday, particularly in the second half. What did he do that was so woeful or wretched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Down at Tottenham, did Kramaric play as an out and out striker, or was he in the number 10 role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 That's a bit of editorialising by a Chelski-supporting amateur "journalist". No-one, not even Man U fans criticised Clattenburg for sending off Blackett. The penalty against Rafael was, shall we say, another matter. That was a laughable decision to give us a penalty but that's the one incident people will point to when you discuss us. That game I don't think has done us any favour in the long-term. Can see us losing this weekend through some dodgy refereeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 no way defeat this time Come on Rodger the Dodger, lets have a bit of optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 The penalty decision itself wasn't laughable. It was the failure to give a freekick in the first place. They're both fouls but the 'shoulder to shoulder' decision was atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Yeah, I thought King in particular was pretty decent on Saturday, particularly in the second half. What did he do that was so woeful or wretched? Constantly being brushed aside easily, Capoue skipped past both Drinkwater and King like they weren't there, second to nearly every ball. I must have been watching a different game to you if you thought King was decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanguedocFox Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 That was a laughable decision to give us a penalty but that's the one incident people will point to when you discuss us. That game I don't think has done us any favour in the long-term. Can see us losing this weekend through some dodgy refereeing. Maybe, but I still wouldn't swap it for the world. My wife had some friends round, and apparently the story of my screaming "Fvck, yes, fvck, YES, FUUUUUUURKKKKKK YEESSSSSSSSSSS" while I danced in front of the telly is still talked about in this part of France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Looks some dodgy snow fall for manchester Friday into Saturday , might the game be off remember Salford council shutting the stadium before because of sanity issues , my train tickets for 4 cost a fortune I hope not !!!! BBC saying Thursday Friday now in Manchester , sat should be ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterseddon Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 King and Drinkwater weren't at their best in some aspects on Saturday I agree, but let's not forget that we were playing 4-4-2 whilst Tottenham were playing 4-3-3/4-5-1. This meant that in the centre of the midfield it was 3 on 2 in Spurs' favour. They both did a job which allowed us to not get too dominated in that area (particularly second half) and to play the system that we wanted to in having two up front (Kramaric and Ulloa). Sometimes you have to look a little deeper at the jobs that players are doing to understand their worth to the team. If we ask King and Drinkwater to do a lot of running in the centre of the park and keep pushing Spurs players away from certain areas without diving into tackles they might not win then (as long as they do that) we don't have to match Spurs man for man. A lot of people failed to notice that on Saturday with them screaming at King and Drinkwater to "get stuck in", not realising that if they committed to tackles left, right and centre then they would constantly be getting the ball popped round them to the extra Spurs man. King in particular is a player that frequently suffers from this. He's very much a players' player and a manager's player because they understand the quality of the work that he does and what he contributes to the team. To those who can't look a little deeper on the terraces he's 'lightweight' or 'invisible'. A reasoned and articulate reply, but I'm sorry...I just really disagree with you. I was at the game on Saturday and both King and Drinkwater were dreadful. I know Spurs' system gave them a lot to do but they were way off the pace of the game, provided zero momentum in attack and barely (if ever) took the ball off the opposition. In fact, I can't remember either of them winning a tackle in the first half. The trouble is, they have similar strengths (short passing, shooting) and similar weaknesses (inability to win headers in midfield, lack of pace, tackling) - which, when combined, leave us lacking in the midfield. It's not too much to expect from centre midfielders in the Premier League that they should be able to win the ball without getting horribly out of position. You mention that we were "not too dominated in the second half"...should this really be seen as a success? And what about the first half? You can't ignore that simply because it doesn't fit your argument. We were barely in the game for long periods, and Spurs had 65% possession. For me, neither King nor Drinkwater has stepped up this season. I'm not saying you've done this - but it seems to me that those on this forum who defend them generally seem to do so out of a sense of nostalgia for their preformances in the Championship, when it's so obvious from our performances (and our position in the league) that they just aren't as good as some on here think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Any chance we'll be in all blue for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 Any chance we'll be in all blue for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 We've had plenty of opportunities to wear all blue this season - Stoke, Swansea, Villa - and haven't done so. Not sure why tbh. At least we haven't needlessly worn our away kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 It's like no one at the club is aware of the success we've had in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfox Posted 27 January 2015 Share Posted 27 January 2015 For anyone interested this match is the live commentary on 5 Live ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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