inckley fox Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 Such good lads that they were well up for a fight with their own fans. As an older bloke you should be mature enough not to, unless you are going there looking for a fight. 'Fought more battles for lcfc . Have they done a shift at left back for us then? What you mean to say is they were the sort who were involved in football hooliganism back in the day and can't accept that football has moved on from that now and were well up for a rumble? I suppose my opinion is irrelevant to you though as I'm under 40 and am not sucking from the tit of Thatcher. The fact you are a glorifying a divide between 2 'factions' of our fan base if you can call it that is embarrassing. I really can't get my head around why football has such a bearing on someones life that they are willing to fight about who the manager is, and people like yourself are justifying it. People can express their opinion however they like (within reason of course) but this is just ridiculous. I've got to pull you up on the last point, because it's where people always get muddled up over Freedom of Speech. People can express whatever opinions they like - and not just within reason, well beyond reason too - but certainly not however they like.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 I've got to pull you up on the last point, because it's where people always get muddled up over Freedom of Speech. People can express whatever opinions they like - and not just within reason, well beyond reason too - but certainly not however they like. That was kinda the point I was getting out, however they like within reason. For example people are allowed to express their view on Pearson by chanting against him, calling the phone in, bringing banners etc. That is all within reason, what is not within reason is beating up your fellow fans because they hold a different opinion, or going to petrol bomb his car in the car park etc. I wasn't limiting what opinions a person could have but their way of directing that opinion.
inckley fox Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 I don't agree with any sort of 'division' between our fans. Anyone who can't differentiate the unimportance of football in comparison to problems around the world need their heads checking whoever they may be. Pearson is the manager of a football club that we all support (regardless of his record), and the fact that people want to fight about it is a damning reflection of these people and role that football has in their lives. The fact that you seem to be glorying this divide between the L1 'ard skinheads' and the UFS 'lefties' is why I picked up on your particular post. I don't quite get the point (and, in fairness to you, I'm not sure it's the point you're making) that, as manager of the football club we support, we should therefore support him. We've had a huge number of managers which we've come not to support - Hamilton, Pleat, Taylor, Levein, Kelly, Megson, Holloway, Sousa and to a lesser extent Sven. Plenty of fans stood up for Taylor, Adams, Holloway and Sven when, in hindsight, it might have been advisable to push them a little more forcefully towards the exit door, and a lot earlier. On the other hand, lots of people wanted O'Neill out. And Kelly out, even though he turned us around to keep us up for two seasons running, which led to Mandaric, then Pearson, then the Thais, AND we got relegated the season after we fired him, after which the sales of three players nurtured under his management bankrolled us for a year while a guy he helped to bring in scored the goals to get us promoted. In retrospect he did alright, but we seldom chanted his name and still give him a bit of lip these days if he ends up on the opposition bench. Are those of us who were glad to see him gone, or who didn't chant his name at the time bad fans? That's nearly everyone, surely. Backing a manager, even a good manager, is no guarantee that he'll be supported, even by the truest of fans. The people who wanted O'Neill out were, I remember thinking, not the same people who'd wanted Pleat out. The people who wanted Sven out are often not the same ones who want Pearson out. Some people want everyone out at some point or other, others I know defended Taylor to the hilt and have backed everyone else since (for my part, I wouldn't take the opinions of either very seriously). The support, as I see it, should be for the club ahead of the manager. It's possible for a good fan not to want to sing his name, or even to think that his name shouldn't be sung at all.
inckley fox Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 That was kinda the point I was getting out, however they like within reason. For example people are allowed to express their view on Pearson by chanting against him, calling the phone in, bringing banners etc. That is all within reason, what is not within reason is beating up your fellow fans because they hold a different opinion, or going to petrol bomb his car in the car park etc. I wasn't limiting what opinions a person could have but their way of directing that opinion. I agree, of course!
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 3 February 2015 Posted 3 February 2015 I don't quite get the point (and, in fairness to you, I'm not sure it's the point you're making) that, as manager of the football club we support, we should therefore support him. We've had a huge number of managers which we've come not to support - Hamilton, Pleat, Taylor, Levein, Kelly, Megson, Holloway, Sousa and to a lesser extent Sven. Plenty of fans stood up for Taylor, Adams, Holloway and Sven when, in hindsight, it might have been advisable to push them a little more forcefully towards the exit door, and a lot earlier. On the other hand, lots of people wanted O'Neill out. And Kelly out, even though he turned us around to keep us up for two seasons running, which led to Mandaric, then Pearson, then the Thais, AND we got relegated the season after we fired him, after which the sales of three players nurtured under his management bankrolled us for a year while a guy he helped to bring in scored the goals to get us promoted. In retrospect he did alright, but we seldom chanted his name and still give him a bit of lip these days if he ends up on the opposition bench. Are those of us who were glad to see him gone, or who didn't chant his name at the time bad fans? That's nearly everyone, surely. Backing a manager, even a good manager, is no guarantee that he'll be supported, even by the truest of fans. The people who wanted O'Neill out were, I remember thinking, not the same people who'd wanted Pleat out. The people who wanted Sven out are often not the same ones who want Pearson out. Some people want everyone out at some point or other, others I know defended Taylor to the hilt and have backed everyone else since (for my part, I wouldn't take the opinions of either very seriously). The support, as I see it, should be for the club ahead of the manager. It's possible for a good fan not to want to sing his name, or even to think that his name shouldn't be sung at all. Not quite the point I was making, Although I support Pearson, I have no issue with people raising legitimate questions against some of the things he has done this season. It also irks me somewhat some of the ridiculous points that the Anti Pearson lot continue to raise (i.e Can't handle big names, Arrogant with press etc.) My point is more to do with the fact if your opinion on who our football manager is gets you so volatile and angry you want to fight (with your own fanbase), be depressed for the rest of the week, post aggressive posts on message boards etc then you need to evaluate the relationship you have with football as a whole. I disliked Sven as a manager, called for him to go at a few points during his tenure but never did it make me want to get so angry that I wanted to fight with someone of the opposite opinion. There are things that would provoke that reaction in me (i.e Racism etc,) but football isn't one of them.
inckley fox Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Not quite the point I was making, Although I support Pearson, I have no issue with people raising legitimate questions against some of the things he has done this season. It also irks me somewhat some of the ridiculous points that the Anti Pearson lot continue to raise (i.e Can't handle big names, Arrogant with press etc.) My point is more to do with the fact if your opinion on who our football manager is gets you so volatile and angry you want to fight (with your own fanbase), be depressed for the rest of the week, post aggressive posts on message boards etc then you need to evaluate the relationship you have with football as a whole. I disliked Sven as a manager, called for him to go at a few points during his tenure but never did it make me want to get so angry that I wanted to fight with someone of the opposite opinion. There are things that would provoke that reaction in me (i.e Racism etc,) but football isn't one of them. Again, I'd agree with all of that.
dogadug Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Not quite the point I was making, Although I support Pearson, I have no issue with people raising legitimate questions against some of the things he has done this season. It also irks me somewhat some of the ridiculous points that the Anti Pearson lot continue to raise (i.e Can't handle big names, Arrogant with press etc.) My point is more to do with the fact if your opinion on who our football manager is gets you so volatile and angry you want to fight (with your own fanbase), be depressed for the rest of the week, post aggressive posts on message boards etc then you need to evaluate the relationship you have with football as a whole. I disliked Sven as a manager, called for him to go at a few points during his tenure but never did it make me want to get so angry that I wanted to fight with someone of the opposite opinion. There are things that would provoke that reaction in me (i.e Racism etc,) but football isn't one of them. Very good post
ARTY_FOX Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 The Pro Pearson lot on this site. Lefties, internet losers, UFS, blue mongies, screenlickers, Fosse Boys, call them what you will, at the end of the day plenty of accounts on this thread by regular posters as well as myself from people who were actually there that it is this Pro Pearson crowd that were giving it big to other anti Pearson fans and dishing out the threats. When they realised the anti Pearson lot were older, harder and fought a lot more battles for Leicester City than these morons will in their lifetime they backed away. Leaving others who had not kicked things off (and are all Pearson Outers) to have a little dust up. Those involved in the fighting are good lads. Those that started it off then hid away are the Pro Pearson UFS lot. So your saying the pearson in lot expressed their opinions and the pearson out lot became so enraged instead of punching the pearson in lot they punched eachother?
GaelicFox Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 It's time to break out the emergency Ecstasy, disco biscuits ended most hooliganism I think we reach to the emergency yoke box ASAP lol , Yokes for everyone at arsenal away !!!!
CosbehFox Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 Politics and Football....yawn. Go support a Scottish or Italian side if that's your cup of tea.
indierich06 Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 I notice that ,some notorious "Pearson in" posters, have hidden themselves away, since the truth came out. You know who you are, and so do we, so I don't need to name names. The image of the" Pearson in" brigade is now badly tarnished. If any of the scum who caused this problem are on this site, which I hope they are not, then to use your idols own words, "feck off and die" I can't speak for anyone else who backs the manager, but I've stopped posting by and large because I'm sick of the pathetic infighting at a time when we should all be getting behind the team. Please don't think I'm hiding away because I feel like I've been 'proven wrong' because I honestly couldn't give a lusty **** what posters like you think, with your 'Pearsonite' nonsense - you've wanted him out since day one, simply because you don't much like the bloke. There's only one group trying to label and marginalise our fans, and its posters like you with your 'Pearsonite scum' / 'Pearsonista' / 'Pearson Brigade' rhetoric - which by the way is utter nonsense, as if you can broadly lump all the fans who want Pearson out and who want Pearson to stay into two groups. I've had many intersting discussions with fans who share both viewpoints - in real life, obviously, not with the knuckle dragging keyboard warriors on here - and I've spoken to plenty of fans whose views I respect that want Pearson out and conversely I've also disagreed with the views of many who want Pearson to stay. I'm fully behind the club and the manager as its clear he's going to be here until the end of the season, regardless of what any of us have to say on the topic. I'll be avoiding this place until the end of the season now - possibly for good - as I'm entirely sure I'll enjoy the rest of this season a lot more without the same old posters playing the same old broken records, the playground insults, the faux hardmen talking about hooligans like they're some kind of military regiment beyond reproach and the constant stream of handbags flying around left right and centre. Call me mad, but I'm just going to enjoy watching my side for the rest of the season.
Webbo Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 I'm in no way a leftie (I'm pretty sure a few in general chat can vouch for that), and I'm fully behind pearson. Pretty sure I fall into that camp as well! Pinko commie fags.
CosbehFox Posted 4 February 2015 Posted 4 February 2015 The Pro Pearson lot on this site. Lefties, internet losers, UFS, blue mongies, screenlickers, Fosse Boys, call them what you will, Let's get this right; this little collection of people you like to tag (which could be regarded as insults didn't result to violence). Though they are not innocent but did have the intelligence to apologise. Instead, the fellas you are defending showed zero intelligence and zero composure (in front of a child) translating some insults into violence. No-one likes receiving grief or being insulted but it gives no right to resort towards violence. You simply show yourself to be a more clever man and step away for it. There's been times recently this season where there's been difference of opinion with a nearby fan (in fact there were some Liverpool fans behind me for that game), I could have been a grass or I could challenged them but that would have probably led to violence. Therefore, I left it. I learnt my lesson when I had an argument last year during the Wednesday home when someone criticised Pearson's sub in the latter stages. That was on the cusp of promotion, you quickly realise that a lot of folk have pre-determined short-termism working in their head. As I hold a rational opinion regards Pearson, I get roped into a number of tags which are completely untrue to myself and there's probably a lot like me in that regard who Yourself and a collection of other City fans seem to actively enjoy dividing the fanbase and trying to cause an issue. If we lose on Saturday, it's folk like yourself which will make going down the KP and going away games a horrible experience with such a large cloud of misery hanging over the club. If I could use a comparison, it's like the crazed religious leader who seeks to incite hatred and brainwash at the same time. If we go down it's highly likely, Pearson will lose his job and deservedly so. This collectively grouping of people into 'Pro Pearson'/'Anti Pearson' I think is representative of people who can't understand complex arguments; they see stuff as black/white, left/right, right/wrong but life as a whole, it's far more complex than that and this is no different. I think I know exactly your issue with UFS, as indicated by your constant name changes about old closed down haunts of the Baby Squad and Crazy Gang. You hanker for the past. Union FS may seem alien to the modern all-seater stadium. However, they are simply doing what lads did year after year on the terraces. That's coming together to make some noise. Probably once upon a time, bit like yourself but now you have some bitter jealously towards it. I haven't got a clue why.
L1HT Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 So your saying the pearson in lot expressed their opinions and the pearson out lot became so enraged instead of punching the pearson in lot they punched eachother? I come back on here, this is on page 11, yet people are still thinking this was a fight over the manager. This was because some trendy types, were threatening and offering out some older harder lot. I'll probs come back in another 4 days click on page 20 and see we're back to the same old stuff. As far as I read ALL eyewitness accounts of here agree and have exactly the same story
C-man Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 I come back on here, this is on page 11, yet people are still thinking this was a fight over the manager. This was because some trendy types, were threatening and offering out some older harder lot. I'll probs come back in another 4 days click on page 20 and see we're back to the same old stuff. As far as I read ALL eyewitness accounts of here agree and have exactly the same story Read harder because my understanding is that that's absolute bullshit.
Claridge Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 Pinko commie fags.What's wrong with being a leftie? I'm on the dole and have no intention of working for a living. Kill the bankers,vote for Ed,up the miners .imagine working hard to do the best for yourself and your family.losers Up the revolution.
Claridge Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 What's wrong with being a leftie? I'm on the dole and have no intention of working for a living. Kill the bankers,vote for Ed,up the miners ,it's not our fault were poor,it's everyone elses .imagine working hard to do the best for yourself and your family.losers Up the revolution. were the left side,the left side the left side over here.
Deucalion Posted 5 February 2015 Posted 5 February 2015 were the left side,the left side the left side over here. Ready your pitchforks because the times they are a-changing !!
Burmesefox Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 What Leicester Lass said, but for those with a salacious hunger here is my first hand account of the fracas. I was stood right by it, a grey haired chap - who'd brought his daughter to the match - took exception to "One Nigel Pearson", the young fellows who'd sang said song disagreed. He stood remonstrating with them whilst his daughter carried on out, 2 minutes elapse and this one lone grey haired soul is still there vigorously discussing the merits of Pearson with quite a few bemused, drunk but equally passionate young chaps. Daughter asks a passer by to go extracate her father from the situation, passer by (who one would recommend you shouldn't really remonstrate with) jogs up steps to save dad, someone shoves and, like a newtons craddle, passer by takes a tumble! He's not impressed and vociferously questions whether anyone would like to try that again? (no one would). Sadly friend of passer by spies the end of the newtons cradle and (demonstarting a piss poor understanding of the laws of motion) deems him responsible and begins expressing his displeasure physically. Due to some mixup the end of the craddle is, unbeknownst to friend of passer by, ALSO a friend of the passer by who is now telling one friend not to pulverise the other friend because he is, well, a friend. Sadly this cry comes too late and the newtons craddle has now swung backwards and more people go flying, this is where our blue jacketed ginger supporter (mistakenly identified as a dreadlocked chap earlier on in the thread) takes centre stage. He takes great exception to something and launches forward, Police restrain him whilst passer by, passer by friend and passer by other friend begin leaving. The ginger then launches a volley of abuse which is returned with some interest and the whole seductive dance begins once again. At this point, dear reader, I decend and melt away into the evening. That was the most precise, eloquent, and description post I have ever read on hear. You, my learned friend, are a literary and journalistic genius. Bravo bravo.
Snooty Fox Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Read harder because my understanding is that that's absolute bullshit.And were you actually there C Man?Because it seems to me those that were are telling the same story. Fleckney Mike, Bruin, L1HT, myself and a couple of others. Everyone else is just speculating. The only others that were there are certain members of UFS but they're keeping decidly quiet. I do wonder why.
Maybes Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 And were you actually there C Man? Because it seems to me those that were are telling the same story. Fleckney Mike, Bruin, L1HT, myself and a couple of others. Everyone else is just speculating. The only others that were there are certain members of UFS but they're keeping decidly quiet. I do wonder why. Who are these members of UFS exactly?
glenelgfox Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Fighting between Leicester supporters was interrupted for 90 minutes today when two teams took to the pitch!
Mike Oxlong Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 It's all going to kick off again this weekend. Stone Island sold out up town
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