Aus Fox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Many people think we are already down and the season is over, I am not one of these but of it is and we are to be relegated, can we just enjoy the last few games? We are playing some of the best teams in Europe, last time we were relegated it took us 10 years to get back, so thinking about that long a await to get back, let's enjoy what we have for now and not worry about what may happen next season? For those 'realists' out there I go to work in a stressful job where I have to be a realist and make decisions based on facts. I have a wife and a child at home an have to be a realist when thinking about decision that affect our families future. So when I watch football, I don't want to be a realist, I want to believe in something! I want to relax and enjoy the game, look at the other results and work out what might happen, who might lose, where we might pick up a sneaky unexpected 3 points to aid our cause. So whether a realist, an escapest or an eternal optimist. Can we just relax and enjoy the last quater of the season, for those lucky enough to be at the games live, enjoy the new away grounds. Keep smiling and keep the faith.
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I struggle to enjoy football if it's not competitive. Can do it for a few games but not over an extended period of time. Thankfully I haven't reached the point where I consider our matches to be meaningless - still something to play for in my view.
Guest seanfox778 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I think If we keep in touch with Hull, QPR and Burnley we will always have a chance. Yes we are awful at the minute but we're not the only terrible team. Also Villa.
st albans fox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Sorry mate - I'm also in a high pressured job where not only my family but 2 dozen others are reliant on my decision making. However, my football club has been part of my soul for 45 years and I can't just shake it off and 'enjoy it'. The players and management - it's their job and they get paid whatever. Yes they care, but they don't care like we do. Only Liam can say that. Tbh, we could do with some of the local U21's with that same passion being given a chance! Living darn sarf, it's only the PL that matters. no one cares about anything else and I want my club to be where it belongs. I thought we had a shot of a decent spell at the top table, given the finances. Someone has fuc*ed up good and proper here. Maybe we were all hoodwinked? i really thought this season was going to be enjoyable. Tough but enjoyable. with these players, we are good enough to be higher. let down my management I'm afraid. at all levels perhaps?
queensguardfox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Most of the people said they would take 17th at the start of the season. Our target is survival and we are at the moment 3 pointa off that. So chill out
foxinsox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Fight on until mathematically impossible. Last Prem relegation series I remember the Portsmouth match atmosphere was great with us going down but beating them staying up. Where are we both now? Yesterday there were few really poor performances, just a well drilled Palace side. Ulloa was too heavily marked to do anything, Simpson rather exposed against Zaha. I would have chosen a different team but the team Nigel put out had plenty of shots on goal, wasted by poor finishing. Nigels plan would have worked if Nugent or Cambiasso hadn't squandered it. Whatever league we are in I will support City.
Bettsj2 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 My job isn't stressfull at all so City is where I get my life balance! I'd love to enjoy the last few games but it aint gonna happen because we're dogshit and our manager, instead of picking it up, putting it in a bag and finding a dogshit bin, is smearing it all over the pavement, then trampling it all through our houses with his massive white trainers.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I think the majority still intend to enjoy the rest of the season and believe we are in with a shout. Unfortunately we have a group of fans who have already made their minds up, and will blast the manager and certain players no matter what. I respect that they don't like Pearson for whatever reason it may be. However the way fans have gone about writing the manager and players off is disgraceful, it's not a well balanced argument it's childish personal attacks (edit: see post above) on individuals that haven't done much more wrong than being part of a squad that is in a relegation scrap. Some will say they aren't putting in any fight or aren't interested, yet yesterday I feel we contended really well and a goal against run of play put us on our arses. It's frustrating for all of us, and probably more so that you can almost sense we're never too far off getting it right and keep falling short.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Most of the people said they would take 17th at the start of the season. Our target is survival and we are at the moment 3 pointa off that. So chill out 3 points at the moment. it could be 5 by the end of today. Will probably be eight by the time we've got Arsenal City and Chelsea out the way, so we will realistically need to win six of our last 11 to get 38 points. We could we see a record low points for 17th this season if one of the teams down there don't stick a run together, even then, we going to have to double our wins tally in those 11 games and pick up 3 draws, meaning we can only lose four of them. Assuming we pick nothing up in the next three games we are going to have to finish the season with top half form, it is not impossible but there is nothing to be chilled out about.
weller54 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Sorry mate - I'm also in a high pressured job where not only my family but 2 dozen others are reliant on my decision making. However, my football club has been part of my soul for 45 years and I can't just shake it off and 'enjoy it'. The players and management - it's their job and they get paid whatever. Yes they care, but they don't care like we do. Only Liam can say that. Tbh, we could do with some of the local U21's with that same passion being given a chance! Living darn sarf, it's only the PL that matters. no one cares about anything else and I want my club to be where it belongs. I thought we had a shot of a decent spell at the top table, given the finances. Someone has fuc*ed up good and proper here. Maybe we were all hoodwinked? i really thought this season was going to be enjoyable. Tough but enjoyable. with these players, we are good enough to be higher. let down my management I'm afraid. at all levels perhaps? Spot on posting!
David Hankey Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I wish I had your confidence Aus Fox. There is a great deal of difference between blindly "Keeping the faith" and acknowledging the reality of the situation. We cannot hope to rise from the bottom of the table until we start taking our chances. Leicester should have easily had 2 first half goals which would have put Palace on the back foot instead they went ahead and we weakly bowed out. Pearson's selections rightly have come under scrutiny recently and again yesterday he chose to put Kramaric on the bench when everyone else knows how critical it is that we start scoring goals. With that relatively easy game out of the way and nothing to show for it and 3 tough away games coming up it does not bode well for us retaining our place in the Premiership.
MC Prussian Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Sorry mate - I'm also in a high pressured job where not only my family but 2 dozen others are reliant on my decision making. However, my football club has been part of my soul for 45 years and I can't just shake it off and 'enjoy it'. The players and management - it's their job and they get paid whatever. Yes they care, but they don't care like we do. Only Liam can say that. Tbh, we could do with some of the local U21's with that same passion being given a chance! Living darn sarf, it's only the PL that matters. no one cares about anything else and I want my club to be where it belongs. I thought we had a shot of a decent spell at the top table, given the finances. Someone has fuc*ed up good and proper here. Maybe we were all hoodwinked? i really thought this season was going to be enjoyable. Tough but enjoyable. with these players, we are good enough to be higher. let down my management I'm afraid. at all levels perhaps? The difference being footballers getting paid a lot more than your average Joe (even the ones in higher, leading positions). And the fate of your company is not comparable to a football club, where the total wage bill is x amount of yours and where you have owners who're putting in money for the sake of it regularly. They don't compete as much in a market as you are - but you know that, otherwise you wouldn't be head of a company. They are two different "challenges". I always thought that the older fans in particular should know what it feels like to go through such turmoil supporting this club, stuck in between the top flight and the Championship/Division Two and look at it from a more reasonable, relaxed, experienced perspective. Yet they are usually the ones making the biggest fuss about it. When a team fails, everyone ****s up. The players, the manager, the management, the media, the owners - even the fans. A club is the sum of many parts, that's what makes them all so special.
Bettsj2 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I think the majority still intend to enjoy the rest of the season and believe we are in with a shout. Unfortunately we have a group of fans who have already made their minds up, and will blast the manager and certain players no matter what. I respect that they don't like Pearson for whatever reason it may be. However the way fans have gone about writing the manager and players off is disgraceful, it's not a well balanced argument it's childish personal attacks (edit: see post above) on individuals that haven't done much more wrong than being part of a squad that is in a relegation scrap. Some will say they aren't putting in any fight or aren't interested, yet yesterday I feel we contended really well and a goal against run of play put us on our arses. It's frustrating for all of us, and probably more so that you can almost sense we're never too far off getting it right and keep falling short. Are you honestly saying you dont know the reasons why people dont like Pearson?
bovril Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I'd relax more if people stopped writing 'keep the faith' at the end of their posts!
Burmesefox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 My job isn't stressfull at all so City is where I get my life balance! I'd love to enjoy the last few games but it aint gonna happen because we're dogshit and our manager, instead of picking it up, putting it in a bag and finding a dogshit bin, is smearing it all over the pavement, then trampling it all through our houses with his massive white trainers. Fantastic, i love that post.
st albans fox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 The difference being footballers getting paid a lot more than your average Joe (even the ones in higher, leading positions). And the fate of your company is not comparable to a football club, where the total wage bill is x amount of yours and where you have owners who're putting in money for the sake of it regularly. They don't compete as much in a market as you are - but you know that, otherwise you wouldn't be head of a company. They are two different "challenges". I always thought that the older fans in particular should know what it feels like to go through such turmoil supporting this club, stuck in between the top flight and the Championship/Division Two and look at it from a more reasonable, relaxed, experienced perspective. Yet they are usually the ones making the biggest fuss about it. When a team fails, everyone ****s up. The players, the manager, the management, the media, the owners - even the fans. A club is the sum of many parts, that's what makes them all so special. I wasn't comparing MC - I was responding to the OP. I've been through enough ups and downs with the team over the decades. The goalposts have moved somewhat with the all encompassing PL. my frustration this time is increased because I thought we were in a much better financial position to ensure we didn't end up where we now find ourselves. Same old same old I guess!
goose2010 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Personally I came into the season with a completely different attitude to the last ten seasons. I knew we would lose more that we won and it would be a massive struggle, that's not down to the summer signings or anything else just the fact it always is first season. As a fan all I can do is turn up and support, I have no say what so ever and I'm happy with that, as I can sit back and watch it unfold. We may stay up 3 points off, tough games coming up but the other teams have to win around us to. Villa, hull and QPR and us if you ask me 3 out of the 4. Villa don't score, hull are on a terrible run (bar 1 point yesterday that could even if been a negative one, drawing in the last minute) villa can't win or even score and qpr are in a mess - again conceding so late wouldn't of helped confidence and no manager to pick them up. Stay within 4 points in the next 3 games and we still have a fighting chance. I understand emotions ran high yesterday but some of the supporters we well quite frankly embarrassing ironic cheering of Nugent for one did he do much wrong? Not really no more that some of the others and was mm from scoring a great header. The booing at the end why? We had 5-6 clear chances chances that we just couldn't score. I agree with the op just relax especially at the ground vent your frustration here not at the players as its not going to help them, imagine if you had a bad day at work and everyone around you ironically cheered when you left or booed your work, what would it do for your confidence? The players are human beings as well you no.
chapero82 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Scoring goals is our problem, we should have paid defoe what he wants
bovril Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Personally I came into the season with a completely different attitude to the last ten seasons. I knew we would lose more that we won and it would be a massive struggle, that's not down to the summer signings or anything else just the fact it always is first season. As a fan all I can do is turn up and support, I have no say what so ever and I'm happy with that, as I can sit back and watch it unfold. We may stay up 3 points off, tough games coming up but the other teams have to win around us to. Villa, hull and QPR and us if you ask me 3 out of the 4. Villa don't score, hull are on a terrible run (bar 1 point yesterday that could even if been a negative one, drawing in the last minute) villa can't win or even score and qpr are in a mess - again conceding so late wouldn't of helped confidence and no manager to pick them up. Stay within 4 points in the next 3 games and we still have a fighting chance. I understand emotions ran high yesterday but some of the supporters we well quite frankly embarrassing ironic cheering of Nugent for one did he do much wrong? Not really no more that some of the others and was mm from scoring a great header. The booing at the end why? We had 5-6 clear chances chances that we just couldn't score. I agree with the op just relax especially at the ground vent your frustration here not at the players as its not going to help them, imagine if you had a bad day at work and everyone around you ironically cheered when you left or booed your work, what would it do for your confidence? The players are human beings as well you no. This is true. I had mentally prepared myself for the worst this season. But there's going down and there's going down. At the moment we're going down with barely a whimper, I know it's only 3 points but home defeats to WBA, Stoke and Palace and the draws with Burnley and Sunderland are hard to accept. The most frustrating thing, the thing that will always haunt me about this season, is that with a bit of cannier management and some better decision making from a number of our players, we would have picked up at least 6 more points from those games. For some reason we abandoned our swashbuckling style that got us promoted. It's been a huge missed opportunity. Ultimately the management and coaching staff must take responsibility and it's little consolation to me that they'll "learn from their mistakes" as a lot of people have pointed out. As other posters have stated, our coaching staff really doesn't seem to know what their doing at this level. It's not only a question of the manager.
MC Prussian Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I wasn't comparing MC - I was responding to the OP. I've been through enough ups and downs with the team over the decades. The goalposts have moved somewhat with the all encompassing PL. my frustration this time is increased because I thought we were in a much better financial position to ensure we didn't end up where we now find ourselves. Same old same old I guess! Yeah, but money at our disposal doesn't automatically guarantee success. I don't think you can "buy" success (well, maybe you can, but only when aiming for short-term progress), you have to build on it. We failed somewhat miserably under Eriksson when pursuing that option and were left with too many players on hefty wages that ultimately could've ruined this club (a second time). Also, no matter how much money you have, you still need to be able to attract the right type of player to help completing the puzzle. Players rejecting contracts at Leicester City FC can have a plethora of reasons for doing so. Most of those reasons being perfectly justifiable.
bovril Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Scoring goals is our problem, we should have paid defoe what he wants I thought at the time he would have been the better option. He's another one of these players that seems to be 'shit' by several foxestalk standards. Over the hill, overrated. But with Premiership know how and an experience of relegation battles. Kramaric will obviously be a great player but I don't know how much he'll help us in our current situation.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Are you honestly saying you dont know the reasons why people dont like Pearson? Where did I state that? I understand that people think he's tactically inept, that's my one concern. Others don't like his attitude or general demeanour. A few kids even get upset because he doesn't play Knockaert. And some for some reason or another, the bit I do fail to comprehend, have never liked the guy. What I fail to understand is the posts of pure hatred, the childish ones, like yourself, that treat the guy with such contempt. The blokes seen us to two promotions and two play off campaigns, offloading a number of players who occupied a large chunk of the wage budget and brought in a squad of a real promise. If he leaves so be it, if he gets sacked that's fair enough, why do we not deal with it in a respectable manner instead of belittling a man who deserves some degree of respect for the job he has done.
Fox92 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Most of the people said they would take 17th at the start of the season. Our target is survival and we are at the moment 3 pointa off that. So chill out Exactly. People speak as if it's a ten point gap.
st albans fox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I thought at the time he would have been the better option. He's another one of these players that seems to be 'shit' by several foxestalk standards. Over the hill, overrated. But with Premiership know how and an experience of relegation battles. Kramaric will obviously be a great player but I don't know how much he'll help us in our current situation. Defoe is a 20 mill package - 6 fee and 14 wages. Sland got lucky by losing the fee re altedore. Still, a 14 mill wages package would have been enough to make him a non starter with us. Krama is no risk. We will sell him for at least 8 mill in June whatever happens. Could be chelsea, could be an italian club. No one from the outside is going to view his experience with us over the next few months in a bad light.
Gubbins Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Exactly. People speak as if it's a ten point gap. It's not a ten point gap but neither is it the case that were three points from safety. 18 more points is what we might end up needing. To get that wel need to go on a run of form that this team doesn't look remotely capable of doing.
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