BigWesMorgan Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Any notice that our recent good form has coincided with Schmeichel's return? Coincidence or not?
One Legged Beaver Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Think it's more that we're being forced to just go all out for wins now, although he performed very well in the West Ham game.
Captain... Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 I think it not being Schwarzer has made more of a difference than it being Kasper, yes he had a good game against Man City, but before that he made it mistakes in every game. Happy to have Schwarzer at the club but should be behind Hamer.
shailen Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Kasper is the only keeper that will win us points. Hamer and Schwazer are solid but imo only Kasper is capable of pulling outrageous save after save. You could argue he was the reason we won against West Ham.
4ever and ever Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Since schmeichel has come back into the team we have conceded 7 goals in 3 games. So unless schmeichel is the reason we have scored 8 in that time then no
Bayfox Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Kasper is the only keeper that will win us points. Hamer and Schwazer are solid but imo only Kasper is capable of pulling outrageous save after save. You could argue he was the reason we won against West Ham. so despite hamers clean sheets he won us no points? Sorry but kasper has been poor when he has played this season. don't think he has made any difference in the last few games. We conceded 4 at spurs at the end of the day. We have just been put in a position where we have had to have a go. let's be honest West Bromwich played for what they held on sat and got punished. Probably turned my view on pulis wouldn't want to watch 45 mins of defending every time I held a lead.
Gingerballs Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Definitely a coincidence. Although not a coincidence that the rate in which we concede from set pieces has gone through the roof
chicagofox Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Any notice that our recent good form has coincided with Moore's recall? It's only a little less significant than Schmeichel's return to the team.
shen Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 so despite hamers clean sheets he won us no points? Sorry but kasper has been poor when he has played this season. don't think he has made any difference in the last few games. We conceded 4 at spurs at the end of the day. We have just been put in a position where we have had to have a go. let's be honest West Bromwich played for what they held on sat and got punished. Probably turned my view on pulis wouldn't want to watch 45 mins of defending every time I held a lead. And how many times does it need to be pointed out that he wasn't at fault for any of them?
Finn Claw II Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Since schmeichel has come back into the team we have conceded 7 goals in 3 games. So unless schmeichel is the reason we have scored 8 in that time then no The facts should never get in the way of a good story
dayday Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 And how many times does it need to be pointed out that he wasn't at fault for any of them? He was at fault for the first goal on Saturday.
shailen Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 so despite hamers clean sheets he won us no points? Sorry but kasper has been poor when he has played this season. don't think he has made any difference in the last few games. We conceded 4 at spurs at the end of the day. We have just been put in a position where we have had to have a go. let's be honest West Bromwich played for what they held on sat and got punished. Probably turned my view on pulis wouldn't want to watch 45 mins of defending every time I held a lead. When he had a run in the team we set up a lot more defensively and not to concede. Take Villa's keeper and they hadn't conceded many goals earlier in the season, but they sacrificed a lot of goals as a consequence. Similar to us in some ways. Kasper's performance against Villa away probably was the best goalkeeping performance of the season for us. West Ham he was magnificent too, arguably won us the game with some of the saves he made. The Spurs game, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals. We left our keeper exposed in an attempt to score goals and win games.
shailen Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Since schmeichel has come back into the team we have conceded 7 goals in 3 games. So unless schmeichel is the reason we have scored 8 in that time then no Not the fact that we have started to play more attacking. Did you know De Gea conceded 5 against us and Kasper conceded 3, so therefore using your logic Kasper > De Gea
Bayfox Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 When he had a run in the team we set up a lot more defensively and not to concede. Take Villa's keeper and they hadn't conceded many goals earlier in the season, but they sacrificed a lot of goals as a consequence. Similar to us in some ways. Kasper's performance against Villa away probably was the best goalkeeping performance of the season for us. West Ham he was magnificent too, arguably won us the game with some of the saves he made. The Spurs game, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals. We left our keeper exposed in an attempt to score goals and win games. So Hamer gets no credit? Would kasper have dealt with the battering he would have taken at Stoke? And I love this notion that he conceded 4 at spurs but is not at fault. Ever considered that he may bring it on himself and that by having a keeper who command's his 18 yard box we don't invite pressure and our centre halves are more confident. Oh no I forgot kasper is god because he is good at one on ones. In the championship. Oh and for the record our recent results have coincided with vardy getting a run in the team. For another debate.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Not the fact that we have started to play more attacking. Did you know De Gea conceded 5 against us and Kasper conceded 3, so therefore using your logic Kasper > De Gea Yeah, because that's using his logic...
4ever and ever Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Not the fact that we have started to play more attacking. Did you know De Gea conceded 5 against us and Kasper conceded 3, so therefore using your logic Kasper > De Gea Hahahaha, you have been on the clever juice tonight. So explain to me what kasper did on Saturday to help us win? I'm intrigued by your thoughts on his Stella performance to make us win the game. Kasper has and always will be a great shot stopper but In terms of commanding the area I would go as far as say he is he worst in the whole league. As someone pointed out earlier in the post. Kasper plays and we concede from set pieces. Coincidence?
shen Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 He was at fault for the first goal on Saturday. Wouldn't say he was at fault as such. Should a keeper do better in that situation? Maybe, but the player marking didn't exactly cover himself in glory.
4ever and ever Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Yeah, because that's using his logic... Surprised he said I was using any logic at all
dayday Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Wouldn't say he was at fault as such. Should a keeper do better in that situation? Maybe, but the player marking didn't exactly cover himself in glory. I suggest you watch it again,he has flapped at fresh air,that really should have been a comfortable save. I agree he played well against West Ham,overall though this season he has been very poor,even his distribution which is usually very good,has let him down.
Charl91 Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 I actually thought he was quite poor vs. West Brom. A coincidence I think. I still reckon that poor Hamer has been hard done by.
Jace Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 On Facebook some bloke was criticising Pearson for picking Schwarzer against Hull despite keeping a clean sheet
ScouseFox Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 think he was very good vs west ham, but the fact we've conceded 7 goals in 3 games kinda shows it's not the full story. do think that no matter how poor he is defensively his urgency helps us attacking wise. his quick kicks have often sent vardy/schlupp charging into oppos halves before schwarzer would even have got to his feet after a save.
shailen Posted 14 April 2015 Posted 14 April 2015 Hahahaha, you have been on the clever juice tonight. So explain to me what kasper did on Saturday to help us win? I'm intrigued by your thoughts on his Stella performance to make us win the game. Kasper has and always will be a great shot stopper but In terms of commanding the area I would go as far as say he is he worst in the whole league. As someone pointed out earlier in the post. Kasper plays and we concede from set pieces. Coincidence? Tbf he didn't do anything on Saturday to help us win. But he didn't do anything wrong. I don't buy the set pieces argument too much. The number of times we have left players free, as we did once again on Saturday for Fletcher's goal is shocking. We are probably one of the worst teams at defending set pieces. I do agree with the fact that he could command the area better but what we lose if we have the other two keepers in, is the ability to shot stop. That has to be the paramount priority of a keeper. He is there to stop the ball going into the net directly. Distribution, Commanding the area....etc are of secondary importance, but are still obviously factors to consider. I would say Kasper is the best shot stopper and also the best in one on one situations. He does have frailties as do the others, but see his performance against West Ham. There is a case to say he kept us in the game against West Ham with some magnificent saves. I'm not sure Hamer or Schwazer could have pulled them saves off tbh.
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