General election, how will you vote?

[Buce]

It's a legitimate way to run a govt under the circumstances, you have decide whether the prospect of the SNP having some power is something you'd want. Some people will some people won't.

I think it's a good thing, personally; they are everything that Labour should be.

[Webbo]

I think it's a good thing, personally; they are everything that Labour should be.

Unsurprisingly, I don't.

[ADK]

I don't mind the SNP in terms of policy, but I don't want the UK broken up, would rather they ran in the rest of the country.

[Captain...]

What Ed should have said is he will not form a coalition with anyone that wants to break the country still leaving the door open for a coalition with SNP as long as they agree to forget all attempts at independence during the course of the parliament.

Apart from their lean for independence I see no issue with SNP having as much power a. The lib dems have now.

As a side query, will labours be able to form a government without a formal coalition if they get less votes than the Tories.

Scenario, which is a likely one, Tories get more than labour, SNP get more than lib dems, Tory lib dem coalition isn't enough for a majority, labour SNP is, but if it isn't a formal coalition could Ed make a realistic claim to be pm without an official coalition?

Same scenario but labour have more seats than Tory, but Tory lib dem coalition has more seats than labour but not enough for a majority, who has a right to rule if there is no formal coalition with the Scots?

[Bryn]

Got my postal vote through today, need to decide. Actually quite like the sound of the Independent here in Chelts.

[Strokes]

What Ed should have said is he will not form a coalition with anyone that wants to break the country still leaving the door open for a coalition with SNP as long as they agree to forget all attempts at independence during the course of the parliament.

Apart from their lean for independence I see no issue with SNP having as much power a. The lib dems have now.

As a side query, will labours be able to form a government without a formal coalition if they get less votes than the Tories.

Scenario, which is a likely one, Tories get more than labour, SNP get more than lib dems, Tory lib dem coalition isn't enough for a majority, labour SNP is, but if it isn't a formal coalition could Ed make a realistic claim to be pm without an official coalition?

Same scenario but labour have more seats than Tory, but Tory lib dem coalition has more seats than labour but not enough for a majority, who has a right to rule if there is no formal coalition with the Scots?

I think it has to be voted through the house of commons, so it is a real possibility.

[purpleronnie]

Labour of course.

 

C'mon you Reds!!!!!!

[BlueSi13]

Voted Labour all my life.  Not this year.

 

Apart from the immigration fiasco (no different to Labour) can't fault the Conservatives at all.  Things are looking up for the country once again.  

 

However vote Labour and what you get is the SNP dictating policy.  What they'll want in return for propping up Ed Miliband will be a guarantee of huge spending in Scotland which will be provided through harsher cuts in England (most likely targeting the South).  Absolutely no chance am I using my vote to support that.

 

But if that's whats coming (looks like a stick-on despite the Conservatives most likely winning the largest number of votes and the largest number of seats) then the English deserve everything that's coming to them, I don't think we'll ever learn.

[Rincewind]

Didn't Clegg do a similar thing? Cast aside Lib Dem ideals to become deputy PM. They voted with the Tories  until about six months ago. Now they are claiming they were responsible for some of the policies. Will the SNP agree to a similar thing? I don't know.  But I don't think Milliband will go OTT with deals if he can form a government however small the majority. It is all about ;power and the keys to No. 10.

Whenever there is a crucial vot MP's will go along with the party line even if they disagree. You can be certain of this. I wish it wasn't because I am sure there is a middle ground which benefits all and put an end to petty squabbling avnd points scoring. Any party that does this would get my vote but there isn't one at the moment.

I sent my voting papers today. I may as well used a pin for all the good it will do.

[ronnup]

Well, Labour screwed up the economy, and put us billions of pounds in debt, spending money they borrowed, and couldn't pay back. The Tories have had to get us back on track, and have drastically improved the economy, so I don't want to see Labour fvck us up again, especially as they will align themselves with the SNP, who wont be interested in helping out England.

I would rather be nailed upside down on a cross, than vote Labour.

This may be the most dilluded post ever made on foxes talk. And that's one hell of a statement.

[ronnup]

Things are looking up for the country?

Wow. That is incredibly short sighted.

[BlueSi13]

Things are looking up for the country?

Wow. That is incredibly short sighted.

 

Is it not?  Employment up, growth up, deficit down, inflation down.  

 

The IMF have also given the current UK plan a huge thumbs up and are using it as an example to other nations hit hard by the financial crisis.

 

What else do you want exactly?

[MooseBreath]

Is it not? Employment up, growth up, deficit down, inflation down.

The IMF have also given the current UK plan a huge thumbs up and are using it as an example to other nations hit hard by the financial crisis.

What else do you want exactly?

More hand outs. Money for nothing. To see successful people brought down a peg or two. At the end of the day what else do labour voters ever want?

[ronnup]

More hand outs. Money for nothing. To see successful people brought down a peg or two. At the end of the day what else do labour voters ever want?

I dare you to back one of those statements up with policy or actual political fact.

I'm waiting.

[MooseBreath]

I dare you to back one of those statements up with policy or actual political fact.

I'm waiting.

A fairly easy challenge. Labour are proposing to increase tax on high earners.

[Stadt]

The Tories are far from perfect but I don't understand some of the bashing they get about the economy, they've done alright, their predictions were off but they've done more in a shorter time than what other parties seemingly would.

[ronnup]

A fairly easy challenge. Labour are proposing to increase tax on high earners.

And you think the current global and national distribution of wealth is based entirely on a meritocracy?

[ronnup]

The Tories are far from perfect but I don't understand some of the bashing they get about the economy, they've done alright, their predictions were off but they've done more in a shorter time than what other parties seemingly would.

Like what??

Borrowing more in 5 years than labour have in decades?

Selling the NHS to their old school friends?

Where are people getting this bull shit from?

[MooseBreath]

And you think the current global and national distribution of wealth is based entirely on a meritocracy?

Not entirely, no.

[Rincewind]

Like what??

Borrowing more in 5 years than labour have in decades?

Selling the NHS to their old school friends?

Where are people getting this bull shit from?

David Camerons arse.

[Stadt]

I'm not pleased with more borrowing but you can't just cut the the amount you borrow instantly, you need some capital to create jobs.

Who have they sold the NHS too and where?

Where are people getting this bullshit from?

[Carl the Llama]

More hand outs. Money for nothing. To see successful people brought down a peg or two. At the end of the day what else do labour voters ever want?

Now I certainly can't speak for the Labour supporters (it will become evident why), but I'm very left-leaning and I sure as hell don't want money I didn't earn, or to see anyone being castigated for their own hard work.  But yes, there's clearly an inequality in the way our economy distributes wealth, favouring ruthless self-serving behaviour over benevolence so long as that profit margin climbs a percentage point.  Sure we've experimented with various incentives, watchdogs, or degrees of nationalisation to address this sort of wage inequality relative to the value of the actual work put in problem, but at the end of the day humankind is far too egomaniacal for any would-be solutions to stick with any rigour and there will always be the highly-motivated gluttons ready to find the loophole that lets them grab as much as they can from everyone else...  And that's why I'm not voting - our species is shit, doomed.  Unfortunately I don't have the intelligence or the skills to change anything around me, so all I want right now is to live out my natural lifespan without getting too closely involved in the whole human thing, maybe find myself a like-minded female along the way.  Although I have every right to register(well, not anymore I suppose), it would be disingenuous of me to try influencing a society I neither live in nor take stock in anymore.

 

 

It's a bit worrying that I'm perfectly lucid about how crazy that paragraph is yet I still believe it wholeheartedly.

[MooseBreath]

Now I certainly can't speak for the Labour supporters (it will become evident why), but I'm very left-leaning and I sure as hell don't want money I didn't earn, or to see anyone being castigated for their own hard work. But yes, there's clearly an inequality in the way our economy distributes wealth, favouring ruthless self-serving behaviour over benevolence so long as that profit margin climbs a percentage point. Sure we've experimented with various incentives, watchdogs, or degrees of nationalisation to address this sort of wage inequality relative to the value of the actual work put in problem, but at the end of the day humankind is far too egomaniacal for any would-be solutions to stick with any rigour and there will always be the highly-motivated gluttons ready to find the loophole that lets them grab as much as they can from everyone else... And that's why I'm not voting - our species is shit, doomed. Unfortunately I don't have the intelligence or the skills to change anything around me, so all I want right now is to live out my natural lifespan without getting too closely involved in the whole human thing, maybe find myself a like-minded female along the way. Although I have every right to register(well, not anymore I suppose), it would be disingenuous of me to try influencing a society I neither live in nor take stock in anymore.

It's a bit worrying that I'm perfectly lucid about how crazy that paragraph is yet I still believe it wholeheartedly.

Give me some examples of wealthy people who are known for and proven to be particularly "ruthless and self-serving". I'll match your list with some poor people who have done much worse things than that.

[Guest Col city fan]

With the complete and utter balls up Labour made of the last administration..and Mlliband..

Why on earth would anyone vote Labour?

The country was BUST under them. As in..broke

[Carl the Llama]

Give me some examples of wealthy people who are known for an proven to be particularly "ruthless and self-serving".

The man I currently work for only hires staff on part-time contracts so he doesn't have to provide any employment perks to any of his workforce.  Plus, instead of letting his low-income staff make use of out of date food products he prefers to see it binned.  He won't turn the air conditioning in the shop on unless it's above 25 Celsius inside, that means that staff and customers alike have to suffer through unbearably stuffy conditions to save him a few pence on the thousands of quid he brings in each day.  If you clock in a few minutes late you get deducted pay for it, but if you work beyond the end of your shift you don't see the money.  If you agree to work an extra shift you have to get it in writing or he'll try to not pay you because the shift "wasn't approved".  He drives a Bentley to work that says "B055" and talks loudly to customers about the millions that he makes each year.

 

This is a real person.

 

I can squirrel out some more cvnts in my life if you like (I've known many people who have turned into absolute monsters for the sake of "a better life", like the guy who decided to stop talking to anyone from back home and removed us all from facebook because we were all suddenly beneath the kind of people he aspired to be like), but writing about this one man's got me pretty angry so I'm going to take a breather quickly.