Captain... Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 Has this ever been successful in English football? Ramsey taking down QPR, John Carver doing his best to follow suit. Terry Connors at Wolves was just as bad. Rob Kelly was poor for us, John Gregory was probably passable at Villa, any other examples of a number 2 not being shit?
Filbert_Ross Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 Thought a number 2 was universally known as being shit.
Fox92 Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 There's plenty. Bob Paisley worked at Liverpool (think he ended up as Shankly's assistant) then was given the job when Shankly left.
davieG Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 There's plenty. Bob Paisley worked at Liverpool (think he ended up as Shankly's assistant) then was given the job when Shankly left. Followed by Fagin who was coach to their reserve team under Shankly and Paisley, won the treble, European Cup, the League Championship and the League Cup in his 1st season
RowlattsFox Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 Rarely works in a struggling side I can imagine. It can work if someone is being moulded into management. Most numbers 2 are shit managers though.
Finnegan Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 There was a bloke on the continent called Guardiola I think that did alright.
Captain... Posted 10 May 2015 Author Posted 10 May 2015 Mark Warburton at Brentford. Didn't know he was a number 2. Fair enough, was Gary Monk a number 2? Yes he was promoted from within. I'm thinking more of when things aren't going great and they decide to stick the number 2 in two charge when clearly the problem is ingrained with the regime.
Hollism Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 Ryan Giggs improved on David Moyes for their last four games if you can count that? Garry Monk is the standout in the last couple of years though
ScouseFox Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 it seems to work better when a manager opts to leave and his assistant/someone from in the club steps up and keeps everything going along nicely. it tends to be a disaster when a manager is sacked because the whole club is full of shit, and they keep everything the same except the manager and expect things to not still be shit.
The Blur Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 Didn't know he was a number 2. Fair enough, was Gary Monk a number 2? Yes he was promoted from within. I'm thinking more of when things aren't going great and they decide to stick the number 2 in two charge when clearly the problem is ingrained with the regime. Admit it, you was not expecting some great answers here thus changing parameters of your question
tom27111 Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 John Carver. Best coach in the league. Close thread, idiots.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Has this ever been successful in English football? Ramsey taking down QPR, John Carver doing his best to follow suit. Terry Connors at Wolves was just as bad. Rob Kelly was poor for us, John Gregory was probably passable at Villa, any other examples of a number 2 not being shit? Wasn't Micky Adams the assistant to Dave Bassett?
Captain... Posted 11 May 2015 Author Posted 11 May 2015 Wasn't Micky Adams the assistant to Dave Bassett? Not really, they were brought in together but it was always to groom Adams to take over, Bassett was just there to help him along.
Captain... Posted 11 May 2015 Author Posted 11 May 2015 Admit it, you was not expecting some great answers here thus changing parameters of your question I genuinely didn't know some of these were number 2s, especially the Liverpool ones. I was just looking at Carver and Ramsey and trying to think of when it had been successful. Chris Hughton was successful, at Newcastle, I had forgotten about him, well in a fashion, he was partly responsible for their relegation, but got them back up as permanent manager and was doing OK until Ashley sacked him for Pardew.
ramboacdc Posted 12 May 2015 Posted 12 May 2015 the liverpool effect there with paisley/shankley/fagin is why they always like to try and go for the long haul instead of short term. tried to promote king kenny after benitez. sadly that didnt work out. wasnt mclaren number 2 at derby a while back? he did alright with derby september-march this season.
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