ScouseFox Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33868976 Have no idea why they appealed it in the first place, He was clear through, Terry or/and Cahill were level when he skipped past Courtois. the thing i don't get with this is that regardless of whether he was an inch last man or not, he could've easy been sent off just for the tackle alone. nearly bloody snapped him in half. if cattermole does that in the centre circle he gets a 4 match ban at least, "last man" or not, no?
themistocles Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 about half the fee. it might be great it might not i was just pointing out it definitely wasn't "win/win" because he could quite easily be an arrogant nob jockey who won't try very hard. yeah he must've had something about him, and equally something wrong with him to have been immediately hurried out of both clubs without a care in the world, no? Yes definitely, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how it turns out nonetheless.
ScouseFox Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 Yes definitely, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how it turns out nonetheless. yep as would i be if i supported stoke. i am interested as an outsider too tbf. don't think he'll be a patch on bojan though, and i'd have been more excited by afellay too. if all three play well then you've deffo got a chance of that magic 9th place again imo.
Jaspa Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 the thing i don't get with this is that regardless of whether he was an inch last man or not, he could've easy been sent off just for the tackle alone. nearly bloody snapped him in half. if cattermole does that in the centre circle he gets a 4 match ban at least, "last man" or not, no? Ahh I spose so, I'm just looking at the technicalities. Keepers usually get away with clattering people
Lionator Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 If Nigel Pearson had've done what Mourinho has to the Chelsea female doctor then the tabloids would be screaming sexism.
NewburyFox Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 yep as would i be if i supported stoke. i am interested as an outsider too tbf. don't think he'll be a patch on bojan though, and i'd have been more excited by afellay too. if all three play well then you've deffo got a chance of that magic 9th place again imo. Afellay is six years older and appears to have gone off the boil (lot of injuries I think) since his PSV days, so I'd expect Shaqiri to contribute more than him. I don't think Joselu will improve them much either, he was nothing special at Hannover. Can't really see any of the other signings pushing them on much either, so another 8th-12th placed finish I would guess.
Soar Fox Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 People are only making a big deal out of it because its a woman . If the physio was a bloke and Mourinho reacted the same way then no one would give a shit. She's a professional, she fvcked up, she'll get over it. Can't physios only go on if they have been instructed to by the referee who has asked the player if they need treatment?
themistocles Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 Afellay is six years older and appears to have gone off the boil (lot of injuries I think) since his PSV days, so I'd expect Shaqiri to contribute more than him. I don't think Joselu will improve them much either, he was nothing special at Hannover. Can't really see any of the other signings pushing them on much either, so another 8th-12th placed finish I would guess. I had my questions about affely but his performances in pre-season and Liverpool whilst not yet match fit has changed many stoke supporters minds. He'll be competing with bojan for number 10 and cover for the left wing, stood backup. Same with joselu really, potentially a good signing for the fee. 6-10th is the best it's going to get for any team in the Prem other than the big 6. I'll take that this season
foxfanazer Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 I had my questions about affely but his performances in pre-season and Liverpool whilst not yet match fit has changed many stoke supporters minds. He'll be competing with bojan for number 10 and cover for the left wing, stood backup. Same with joselu really, potentially a good signing for the fee. 6-10th is the best it's going to get for any team in the Prem other than the big 6. I'll take that this season Thought you'd beat Liverpool to be honest. Poor game in the end
themistocles Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 Thought you'd beat Liverpool to be honest. Poor game in the end Nothing in it apart from the wonder strike, in fact I thought we shaded it. Had a few key personal missing, bojan, arni and shawcross so can't complain.
Father Ted Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 Perhaps, Mourinho should have instructed Carneiro not to go on. Poor management if you ask me.
Samilktray Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 I love how whiney people on foxestalk get whenever Jose Mourinho breathes
The Horse's Mouth Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 I love how whiney people on foxestalk get whenever Jose Mourinho breathes It would be great if he didn't I agree
EnglishOxide Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 Jose doing his typical thing of alienating himself in the third year of one of his jobs and imploding. Wouldn't be suprised if he was sacked or resigned at some point this season.
Vlad the Fox Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 That vine proves **** all. He was watching what was going on further down the pitch, he didn't even appear to notice the physio running onto the pitch who, as mentioned above, would have been instructed by the ref. Shows how people can twist video evidence to suit their own agenda.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 11 August 2015 Posted 11 August 2015 That vine proves **** all. He was watching what was going on further down the pitch, he didn't even appear to notice the physio running onto the pitch who, as mentioned above, would have been instructed by the ref. Shows how people can twist video evidence to suit their own agenda. deluded chelsea fan
benpicko Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 People are only making a big deal out of it because its a woman . If the physio was a bloke and Mourinho reacted the same way then no one would give a shit. She's a professional, she fvcked up, she'll get over it. How the **** did she **** up? She was waved on, and she wasn't even the first person on the pitch from what I remember.
Jattdogg Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 That vine proves **** all. He was watching what was going on further down the pitch, he didn't even appear to notice the physio running onto the pitch who, as mentioned above, would have been instructed by the ref. Shows how people can twist video evidence to suit their own agenda. Id agree if nothing happened to the doctor but clearly mourinho was pissed at her and the physio. Did you read the posted articles or just look at the vine video?
Vlad the Fox Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 Id agree if nothing happened to the doctor but clearly mourinho was pissed at her and the physio. Did you read the posted articles or just look at the vine video? To be honest it was a quick scan of the articles and the vine. However I'd assume the fact she went on was due to a player needing treatment, though with regard to the article without seeing the whole picture do we know if this is the incident in question. Jose is a twat regardless however, and I find is comments and post match/press conferences boring now.
Guest seanfox778 Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 Barton to West Ham is not happening now. They had a lucky escape.
JPM1983 Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 Barton to West Ham is not happening now. They had a lucky escape. Struggling to see why they'd want him anyway ??
Fox92 Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 Struggling to see why they'd want him anyway ?? Add to their recent collection of red cards.
davieG Posted 12 August 2015 Author Posted 12 August 2015 Premier League myths: Chelsea's defence, Stoke's throws & moreBy Chris CollinsonBBC Sport statistician How often do you question the accepted "truths" about the Premier League? Champions Chelsea may have been accused of "parking the bus", but how good is their defence really? What about Mesut Ozil? Is the Arsenal midfielder really as lazy as so many people seem to claim? And as for Stoke... we all know what to expect from them. Don't we? Myth: Stoke are a long-ball teamAs Stoke established themselves in the Premier League under previous manager Tony Pulis, they developed a reputation for playing a style of football that relied on long balls and set-pieces. But looking at how the Potters performed last season, this reputation is no longer accurate. Under new boss Mark Hughes, they did not look to get the ball up the pitch as quickly as possible, and they score fewer goals from set-pieces. While they have kept the aggression fostered under Pulis, they are now also much more comfortable in possession, pass the ball more accurately and run at opposition defences more often. Most importantly for opposing teams, they now pose much more of a threat in open play than they did under Pulis. In 2012-13, they were ranked bottom of the Premier League for goals from open play, with just 15. They ranked joint-sixth under Hughes last season with 39 goals. Under manager Mark Hughes Stoke have developed their passing accuracy while retaining their aggression Myth: The title was won in the big gamesLast season, Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho was regularly - and rightly - praised for his masterminding of the games against the other top sides. But actually it was their results against the sides in mid-table that separated them from their title rivals as they won the Premier League. While Manchester City lost at West Ham and Crystal Palace, and Arsenal and Manchester United both lost twice to Swansea, the only time Chelsea dropped points against a mid-table side was in defeat at West Brom - after the title was already won. If Chelsea's rivals want to stop them retaining the Premier League crown, it is against the mid-table sides that they must improve. The only points Chelsea dropped against a mid-table side last season were at West Brom, with the title already won Myth: Possession equals successWhen a team that had the majority of possession loses, they are often called unlucky. But while it is true that over a whole Premier League season the top sides enjoy more possession than those lower down the table, in individual games last season the side with more of the ball won only slightly more often than they lost. In fact, if you looked at all 380 top-flight games last season, the team that had more possession won 155, drew 93 and lost 132. Divide that by 10 to get a 38-game season and Possession FC would have won 57 points - leaving them eighth in the table. Crystal Palace have had the lowest possession level of any top-flight team in each of the last two seasons and yet finished comfortably in mid-table both times, while West Brom won 1-0 at Old Trafford last term with only 20% of the ball. Possession is an indicator of a side's style and strategy rather than its success. West Brom had just 20% possession but still beat Manchester United 1-0 at Old Trafford last season Myth: Chelsea's defence was watertightHaving conceded the fewest goals in the league on their way to winning the title last season, Chelsea's defence was understandably praised. But compared to the defensive records of other Premier League champions this century, the 32 goals they conceded could not be considered particularly mean. Last season, Chelsea conceded as many goals as Carlo Ancelotti's free-scoring side of 2009-10 and more than twice as many as Jose Mourinho's first title-winning side of 2004-05. Interestingly, the six best title-winning defences in Premier League history were all between 2004 and 2009, when English sides dominated the Champions League. Chelsea had three defenders in the 2015 PFA team of the year - including Cahill and Terry Myth: Mesut Ozil is lazyAccusations of laziness have dogged Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil ever since he arrived in the Premier League from Real Madrid two seasons ago. As recently as March, former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes said he thought Ozil looked like he was "going through the motions". But when compared to other top attacking midfielders playing for last season's top six finishers, the Germany international - while in no way the most energetic - was hardly the most inactive in terms of sprinting around the pitch and winning the ball back from the opposition. Ozil may owe his reputation to people expecting him to work as tirelessly as his Arsenal team-mate Alexis Sanchez - but that comparison would be a little unfair. Only Chelsea midfielder Willian sprinted more often than Chile international Sanchez last season - and no top attacking midfielder worked as hard to win the ball back. Covering the ground Attacking midfielders from last season's top six Average sprints per 90 minutesWillian (Chelsea) 70 Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) 62 Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) 60 Christian Eriksen (Spurs) 57 Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 56 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 55 Samir Nasri (Man City) 52 Oscar (Chelsea) 50 Juan Mata (Man Utd) 49 David Silva (Man City) 48 Winning the ball back Attacking midfielders from last season's top six Average tackles and interceptions per 90 minutesAlexis Sanchez (Arsenal) 3.4 Oscar (Chelsea) 2.9 Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) 2.5 David Silva (Man City) 2,3 Christian Eriksen (Spurs) 2.2 Juan Mata (Man Utd) 2 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 1.9 Willian (Chelsea) 1.8 Samir Nasri (Man City) 1.7 Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 1.4
Nalis Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 Love Stoichkov's bitter comments about Van Gaal and why Pedro shouldnt move to Man Utd. What a sad, little man Stoichkov is.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 12 August 2015 Posted 12 August 2015 Love Stoichkov's bitter comments about Van Gaal and why Pedro shouldnt move to Man Utd. What a sad, little man Stoichkov is. his comments are spot on though
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