Jeff Schlupp

[Guest ttfn]

Come off it, are you just chucking these comments out for effect? Firstly he hardly played at left back last year to even judge that and secondly I doubt you know every left back that has played in the premier league to comment either.

Lots of over the top comments in this thread on both sides of the argument. He was neither terrible or brilliant that often, much of the season his game was fairly steady but he improved as the season went on. He caused people problems with his pace most games, but also made a pigs ear of much of his delivery for most of the year. His assists and chance creation stats are fairly poor compared to Mahrez and Albrighton.

Well that's not really my style and he was certainly the worst full back I saw last season - would anybody care to venture any worse? Clint Hill at left back is bloody terrible, he'd be up there on my list of recent terrible full backs but he didn't play there too much last season. And I was addressing a specific point about Schlupp's capability at full back, which is why I brought it up.

Schlupp is absolutely fine going forward and "playing on instinct" but his positional awareness is atrocious at full back.

Schlupp was hardly a world beating left back in the Championship. He has massively improved at both left wing and left wing back this season. But my original response was to somebody who said that he was not far off Keiran Gibbs at the moment (referencing arsenal's need for full backs). That is just nowhere near right. Maybe if you were asking who would be better in a 3-4-3 Schlupp might enter the conversation (albeit still second choice).

Col rightly mentioned that Schlupp kept Nathan Dyer quiet as a means of supporting his argument that Schlupp is now a competent/decent (sorry col I don't want to put words in your mouth) full back at this level. Well, firstly that was for about 20 minutes as Dyer came on as a sub in that game. And secondly, this is Nathan Dyer we're talking about here - he's an average Premier League winger, not Ronaldo. De Laet and even Konchesky have been far more impressive over the course of the season at full back than Schlupp and have kept far more accomplished players than Nathan Dyer quiet for far longer than 20 minutes and understandably people think both should be upgraded as for every good game against a good winger (Konchesky against Chelsea back in August) there's been a hopeless one (Konchesky against Chelsea in April). For Schlupp at full back the only 90 minutes he's had this season in a back 4 where he hasn't looked out of his depth was at Southampton in the game where we played 4 centre mids and tried to shut the game down.

Let's keep the two things distinct here - is Schlupp a massively improved footballer and an important cog in our side? Yes, and to a level I had not even thought possible over his whole career, let alone over about 6 months.

Is he ready to play full back in the Premier League on a regular basis? No way.

[lgfualol]

Leicester City in talks with in-demand Jeff Schlupp over improved new contract - See more at: http://ghanasoccernet.com/leicester-city-in-talks-with-in-demand-jeff-schlupp-over-improved-new-contract/?#sthash.B7CSv43X.dpuf

 

Let's hope so, Schlupp and Mahrez new contracts would be good. 

[Babylon]

can't think of many players I've ever seen play footy who are less suited to being described as "fairly steady". He genuinely was either jaw droppingly amazing or eye wateringly bad for most the season.

Well I don't think he was at all, Schlupp was for the most part what I've been saying Schlupp is for two years... a mixed bag. Great at gaining ground on the pitch for the team, a real threat with his pace pulling people all over the shop, but much of the time when he has to think about it poor shooting and poor delivery.

 

In most games you'll get the sublime and then the ridiculous from him. That's what I mean by steady, it was for the most part just his usual game. There were some games where he was great and others where he was poor, but for the most part it was just usual Jeff, with an upwards trend to a bit more good stuff as the season went on and he got used to the league.... much like everyone else. 

 

That's not a slight on him, I appreciate when he brings both defensively and in attack. I'm surprised he was players players (as most people probably were) but I think his team mates appreciate he does a lot of work at both ends of the field.

[Richmondfox]

As usual after X player is linked to clubs the obligatory contract improvement story gets leaked.  

 

Jeff isn't what Arsenal need.  He won't make their bench at LB in front of Gibbs and Monreal and I think Sanchez might get the LW spot before him, plus Wellington Silva now has a work permit and he plays on the right and left.

 

We won't sell any of our regular players who are in contract, especially one with his pace and strength which is vital to Pearson's style of play.  What would the club be saying to the players/fans if they sell the young/players player of the year for half the amount that they paid out in bonuses. 

 

We would miss Jeff a lot more than Arsenal would gain and Jeff would miss playing football.

[Guest MattP]

Let's now rewrite history here, Jeff was fantastic in the left wing back spot towards the end of the season but pretty average aside from 3-4 games on the left wing and an absolute disaster as a left back in a back four, all the opposition had to do was toss the ball to the back post from the left wing and often created a chance and usually a goal, the goals against West Ham, Villa and West Brom all spring to mind with farcical basic errors.

 

Had Konchesky made those mistakes at left back he would have been murdered, Schulpp though is clearly the first choice and one of the first names on the team sheet though if we are playing 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 and we don't have to worry about his ariel defending or keeping to a solid line. That's obvious to anyone.

 

As usual after X player is linked to clubs the obligatory contract improvement story gets leaked.  

 

Jeff isn't what Arsenal need.  He won't make their bench at LB in front of Gibbs and Monreal and I think Sanchez might get the LW spot before him, plus Wellington Silva now has a work permit and he plays on the right and left.

 

Quote of the year, I also think Alexis Sanchez just might get that spot ahead of Jeff Schulpp in the team.

[okie fox]

he was certainly the worst full back I saw last season -

and even Konchesky have been far more impressive

 

I am so glad that you don't pick the team!

[theessexfox]

 

 

 

Quote of the year, I also think Alexis Sanchez just might get that spot ahead of Jeff Schulpp in the team.

I think the 'might' was tongue in cheek in fairness 

[Number 6]

If we are playing 3-5-2 then Schlupp is probably the first name on the team sheet for me. In a flat back 4 his defensive weaknesses are exposed but he's still a threat going forward. Needs to work on his technical ability but that's something you can teach. Pace and power will always cause defenders problems.

[Guest Col city fan]

Well that's not really my style and he was certainly the worst full back I saw last season - would anybody care to venture any worse? Clint Hill at left back is bloody terrible, he'd be up there on my list of recent terrible full backs but he didn't play there too much last season. And I was addressing a specific point about Schlupp's capability at full back, which is why I brought it up.

Schlupp is absolutely fine going forward and "playing on instinct" but his positional awareness is atrocious at full back.

Schlupp was hardly a world beating left back in the Championship. He has massively improved at both left wing and left wing back this season. But my original response was to somebody who said that he was not far off Keiran Gibbs at the moment (referencing arsenal's need for full backs). That is just nowhere near right. Maybe if you were asking who would be better in a 3-4-3 Schlupp might enter the conversation (albeit still second choice).

Col rightly mentioned that Schlupp kept Nathan Dyer quiet as a means of supporting his argument that Schlupp is now a competent/decent (sorry col I don't want to put words in your mouth) full back at this level. Well, firstly that was for about 20 minutes as Dyer came on as a sub in that game. And secondly, this is Nathan Dyer we're talking about here - he's an average Premier League winger, not Ronaldo. De Laet and even Konchesky have been far more impressive over the course of the season at full back than Schlupp and have kept far more accomplished players than Nathan Dyer quiet for far longer than 20 minutes and understandably people think both should be upgraded as for every good game against a good winger (Konchesky against Chelsea back in August) there's been a hopeless one (Konchesky against Chelsea in April). For Schlupp at full back the only 90 minutes he's had this season in a back 4 where he hasn't looked out of his depth was at Southampton in the game where we played 4 centre mids and tried to shut the game down.

Let's keep the two things distinct here - is Schlupp a massively improved footballer and an important cog in our side? Yes, and to a level I had not even thought possible over his whole career, let alone over about 6 months.

Is he ready to play full back in the Premier League on a regular basis? No way.

Christ! And you accuse me of using stuff to thwart an argument!

My post clearly read that I'd seen Schlupp getting defensively better over the course of the season. And that he'd won a number of battles with opposition wingers due to his pace. Not only Nathan Dyer. The point here of course was pace....to give a bloke as tricky and quick as Dyer absolutely nothing shows just what an asset DEFENSIVELY, Schlupp's pace is.

Cmon ttfn..you can better that surely? You took my post out of all context.

[Guest MattP]

I think the 'might' was tongue in cheek in fairness 

 

I hope so!

[HighPeakFox]

Bored guys?

[Bluearmyfox28]

Suprise suprise Leicester are now talking about improving his contract. Schlupp's agent has had our pants down here I think...

[Babylon]

Suprise suprise Leicester are now talking about improving his contract. Schlupp's agent has had our pants down here I think...

Like Wellens being linked with Brum when they were in the prem... so we give hima lucrative 12 year contract

[Corky]

He's improving, he's playing regularly which will help and as a wing back looks much more comfortable than at left back where, in both the Championship and the Premier League, he's been found wanting too often.

 

He's an erratic player (often in the same move) which will bring great and awful performances. I do think he has a future as a wing back/ winger but to be a competent full-back he has a lot of work to do.

[RowlattsFox]

Do people think clubs see a rumour in the sun that Schlupp is going to Arsenal, and think shit we better offer him a new contract.

[Finn Claw II]

I'm not convinced he is that much more inconsistent (both within a game and across the season) than many of our other attacking players. I can't think of any put in consistently 7 or 8 performances other than God.

He is getting better and he needs to play, another season progressing with us is in order. If he believes in the direction the owners are taking this club in, then he should only go to a top 6 or 7 club and only when he is good enough to challenge for a spot in the team.

He's not there yet

[Guest MattP]

Do people think clubs see a rumour in the sun that Schlupp is going to Arsenal, and think shit we better offer him a new contract.

 

It's not as simple and as blatent as the way you have put it but some players, clubs, agents and managers certainly use the media to gain advantages or promote speculation for their own benefit.

 

Martin O'Neill once did it brilliantly while he was here in a different way, he once got a story into the papers that he was after a player from a club a club he really wanted a player from was also after, ended up with him getting the player he wanted from that club as he agreed to "pull out" of trying to sign the player he never really wanted in the first place to let them have him.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Suprise suprise Leicester are now talking about improving his contract. Schlupp's agent has had our pants down here I think...

 

Not only does he deserve improved terms, but if we don't give them to him sharpish I doubt he'll be here this time next year.

[cc_star]

I'm not convinced he is that much more inconsistent (both within a game and across the season) than many of our other attacking players. I can't think of any put in consistently 7 or 8 performances other than God.

He is getting better and he needs to play, another season progressing with us is in order. If he believes in the direction the owners are taking this club in, then he should only go to a top 6 or 7 club and only when he is good enough to challenge for a spot in the team.

He's not there yet

 

Huth?

[cc_star]

Well that's not really my style and he was certainly the worst full back I saw last season - would anybody care to venture any worse? Clint Hill at left back is bloody terrible, he'd be up there on my list of recent terrible full backs but he didn't play there too much last season. And I was addressing a specific point about Schlupp's capability at full back, which is why I brought it up.

Schlupp is absolutely fine going forward and "playing on instinct" but his positional awareness is atrocious at full back.

Schlupp was hardly a world beating left back in the Championship. He has massively improved at both left wing and left wing back this season. But my original response was to somebody who said that he was not far off Keiran Gibbs at the moment (referencing arsenal's need for full backs). That is just nowhere near right. Maybe if you were asking who would be better in a 3-4-3 Schlupp might enter the conversation (albeit still second choice).

Col rightly mentioned that Schlupp kept Nathan Dyer quiet as a means of supporting his argument that Schlupp is now a competent/decent (sorry col I don't want to put words in your mouth) full back at this level. Well, firstly that was for about 20 minutes as Dyer came on as a sub in that game. And secondly, this is Nathan Dyer we're talking about here - he's an average Premier League winger, not Ronaldo. De Laet and even Konchesky have been far more impressive over the course of the season at full back than Schlupp and have kept far more accomplished players than Nathan Dyer quiet for far longer than 20 minutes and understandably people think both should be upgraded as for every good game against a good winger (Konchesky against Chelsea back in August) there's been a hopeless one (Konchesky against Chelsea in April). For Schlupp at full back the only 90 minutes he's had this season in a back 4 where he hasn't looked out of his depth was at Southampton in the game where we played 4 centre mids and tried to shut the game down.

Let's keep the two things distinct here - is Schlupp a massively improved footballer and an important cog in our side? Yes, and to a level I had not even thought possible over his whole career, let alone over about 6 months.

Is he ready to play full back in the Premier League on a regular basis? No way.

 

I concur

 

Schlupp is much improved as a LWB, marginally better as a winger too. But he's never a LB.

 

Positionally when a ball comes over from the opposite wing to the far post, he's all over the shop, just like he can be with balls down his channel. Konchesky is many things, but apart from the West Ham horror show & Willian & Ivanovich doubling up on him in the 2nd half Vs Chelsea at home, Konch has been steady & actually much better than Schlupp at LB

[Guest Col city fan]

I concur

Schlupp is much improved as a LWB, marginally better as a winger too. But he's never a LB.

Positionally when a ball comes over from the opposite wing to the far post, he's all over the shop, just like he can be with balls down his channel. Konchesky is many things, but apart from the West Ham horror show & Willian & Ivanovich doubling up on him in the 2nd half Vs Chelsea at home, Konch has been steady & actually much better than Schlupp at LB

Personally I don't agree.

I doubt there are many wingers who given a choice of playing against Konch or Schlupp (whether at LB or LWB) would choose young Jeffrey.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Personally I don't agree.

I doubt there are many wingers who given a choice of playing against Konch or Schlupp (whether at LB or LWB) would choose young Jeffrey.

Jeff has had a tremendous season Col hasn't he just

Players player of the season says it all for me

[Dan]

Realistically most wingers in this league would probably laugh at that question, before choosing Schlupp. Opposition full backs however would go for Konchesky.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Still don't get the hate for him. Yes he had a few dodgy moments in games at LB, twice he was caught out with balls over him. But how that makes him awful, or 'the worst LB in history of PL' ( lol lol ) is anybodies guess.

 

Give him a new contract, sit back and watch him flourish.

[Guest ttfn]

Still don't get the hate for him. Yes he had a few dodgy moments in games at LB, twice he was caught out with balls over him. But how that makes him awful, or 'the worst LB in history of PL' ( lol lol ) is anybodies guess.

Give him a new contract, sit back and watch him flourish.

He wasn't "twice caught out". He was caught out almost every game in that way, but fortunately it only directly led to a goal twice and indirectly once.

If you can point me to where anybody in this thread said he was "the worst left back in the history of the PL" I'll donate £200 to the forum.

Col, sorry if you think I took your comment out of context, that wasn't my intention at all - you only referred to Dyer in your comment so it was a bit tricky for me to reference anything else.