MrSpaM Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Don't understand the abuse he's getting at all. He's probably not good enough for another season in this league but he's done a decent enough job for us over the years
Carl the Llama Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Does nobody see the benefit of having him as a wise old head and 3rd choice player? This thread is baffling.
Babylon Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Does nobody see the benefit of having him as a wise old head and 3rd choice player? This thread is baffling. I'm not sure wise is a word that you can give Konch, he's reckless far too often.
shailen Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Berner was miles better both as a defender and a "footballer". Are people forgetting how good Berner was in 09-10? The stats with and without him in the team were staggering. He was the difference between us getting in the play-offs and being a miserable team. He was rock solid and never made the silly defensive mistakes Komchesky did. He also showed he was a good footballer when in midfield and never aimlessly hoofed it forward giving the ball away like Konchesky did. Not saying Konchesky was bad, he was a decent Championship LB. Berner was a superb one and definitely a far better player for us as a defender, as a footballer and as a major influence on our side. Konchesky imo showed in his first two seasons he was more than capable. Remember when he was dropped for the Watford game and Schlupp looked so shaky (funny how things changed). Berner was a good player, but personally and possibly cynically I think he overachieved in the 09/10 season. He was superb for that particular season, but as soon as Konch came in, it was clear he was the better LB. The 09/10 team overachieved in fact, with the likes of Neilson, Oakley, Hobbs, Weale, Howard...etc, I do not even know how we got as high up the table as we did. A lot of Konch's critics are based on some of the big mistakes he has made, but people generally forget he has been one of the most consistent performers since he has come in. This season he has been found out, and rightly should be let go, but there is no doubt in my mind he has been the best LB in the last 10 years.
ousefox Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 This thread reminds me of the 'I'm not dead' sketch in Monty Python and the holy grail.
LCCFox96 Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Too much unnecessary hate for Konchesky on this. I'm not his biggest fan, he's an average player but he's been a solid enough and committed signing. His role was to help the club into the Premiership and stay there, so when all is said and done he has achieved this and has therefore been worth the money we paid. He's a long way from the worst player we've seen at Leicester too.
TheReaper87 Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Konchesky was a good player unfortunately age has caught up with him and his obvious lack of pace against premier quality players is clear to see, Chelsea at home stands out a mile as he constantly let Willians past on to his right foot rather than show him the inside and a weaker (possibly) left foot resulting in 2 of there goals. As much as he is a grafter, it's not good enough at this level and for me personally, when he is on the teamsheet I can't help but think we are already down to 10 men
Aus Fox Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 I suppose the other question is as third choice left back, will he make the 25 man squad next season? Can we fill it? If we bring others in would you name 3 left backs in a squad of only 25. 3 keepers (hopefully) 5 cb 2 lb/lwb 2rb/rwb 6 cm 5 strikers Roughly if we play 352 and want to cover all bases only leaves 2 extra spots.
tylesta Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Excellent attitude he seemed to enjoy is time here always remember him him singing Leicester till I die when we won the league! Also took a pay cut on a contract extension. What ever happens Paul all the best!
Max Power Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Awful player. If we plays another minute in the top division next season I'll weep salt tears for the death of football.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Awful player. If we plays another minute in the top division next season I'll weep salt tears for the death of football. How stupid
Captain... Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Don't forget Kochesky has done alright at CB in the past, gives us an extra option, if we do sign Huth that is still only 4 CBs with Moore, then Konch and RDL as cover for LCB/LWB and RCB/RWB respectively. Huth CB Was CB Wes CB Moore CB Schlupp LB/LWB Fuchs LB/LWB RDL RCB/RB/RWB Albrighton RWB Konch LCB/LB/LWB 9 players for our 5 man defence 10 if you include Simpson, seems about right, different options and plenty of cover and experience obviously this relies on signing Huth, or another quality CB. This is also assuming Upson has been/will be released. I would want to add to that before we bin off Konchesky, and I would rather Konch than Simpson at the moment.
Carl the Llama Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 I'm not sure wise is a word that you can give Konch, he's reckless far too often. On the pitch, but around the training ground? Captain's post above sums it up for me - we simply don't have the strength in depth to afford to say "thanks for everything Paul". I wouldn't want him in the starting line up at this stage in his career and with the other options we have, but we're unlikely to find more suitable backup to Schlupp & Fuchs.
Sampson Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Konchesky imo showed in his first two seasons he was more than capable. Remember when he was dropped for the Watford game and Schlupp looked so shaky (funny how things changed). Berner was a good player, but personally and possibly cynically I think he overachieved in the 09/10 season. He was superb for that particular season, but as soon as Konch came in, it was clear he was the better LB. The 09/10 team overachieved in fact, with the likes of Neilson, Oakley, Hobbs, Weale, Howard...etc, I do not even know how we got as high up the table as we did. A lot of Konch's critics are based on some of the big mistakes he has made, but people generally forget he has been one of the most consistent performers since he has come in. This season he has been found out, and rightly should be let go, but there is no doubt in my mind he has been the best LB in the last 10 years. It was not clear Konchesky was a far better player at all. Berner was the perfect full-back at Championship level before Sousa knackered him - consistent, good on the ball, never gave the ball away and good both defensively and going forward. All things Konchesky never were. You don't overachieve over 46 games, you get the points you deserve. We performed much better in 09-10 than we did in either of Konchesky's first 2 seasons - that wasn't just luck or grinding out results either, the performances on the pitch were much better that season too - and Berner was basically the difference between us being a comfortable play-off team and a mediocre mid-table team. The difference between the side with him in it and without him in it was so evident that season. I'm not one of those slating Konchesky, I thought he was decent for us in his first couple of seasons, but he was never consistent, always aimlessly hoofed the ball up field and had mistakes in him. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, but Berner was a far better player for me.
FOXES-BROWNBOY Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 decent player in the championship but just not good enough for the prem anymore, pretty confident a decent championship team will snap him up.
Mike Oxlong Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Most remarkable thing about Konchesky is that he went from looking like an alien to making the 2015 Premier League Best Looking XI http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/giroud-crowned-premier-leagues-hottest-5144632
MrSpaM Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Most remarkable thing about Konchesky is that he went from looking like an alien to making the 2015 Premier League Best Looking XI http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/giroud-crowned-premier-leagues-hottest-5144632 Women are strange creatures
Burmesefox Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Berner was miles better both as a defender and a "footballer". Are people forgetting how good Berner was in 09-10? The stats with and without him in the team were staggering. He was the difference between us getting in the play-offs and being a miserable team. He was rock solid and never made the silly defensive mistakes Komchesky did. He also showed he was a good footballer when in midfield and never aimlessly hoofed it forward giving the ball away like Konchesky did. Not saying Konchesky was bad, he was a decent Championship LB. Berner was a superb one and definitely a far better player for us as a defender, as a footballer and as a major influence on our side. beg to differ. Berner was given cult status. Stick him in the prem and he would have died. Nice enough of a chap but not the super hero he was made out to be.
BigMicky Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 He's ok. He's a likeable character and has had some very good games for us. On the other he's very error prone, some of his moments of madness are inexplicable, especially this season. The penalty at Burnley, the sending off at Hull, his through ball to Andy Carroll. We can't afford these sort of things and we need better now. And people saying he's better than Berner was are totally wrong. But he's been an ok/decent player overall. Good post Very error prone and you list 3, one of which wasn't his fault.
DB11 Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 Konchesky imo showed in his first two seasons he was more than capable. Remember when he was dropped for the Watford game and Schlupp looked so shaky (funny how things changed). Berner was a good player, but personally and possibly cynically I think he overachieved in the 09/10 season. He was superb for that particular season, but as soon as Konch came in, it was clear he was the better LB. The 09/10 team overachieved in fact, with the likes of Neilson, Oakley, Hobbs, Weale, Howard...etc, I do not even know how we got as high up the table as we did. One man: Nigel Pearson.
Sampson Posted 5 June 2015 Posted 5 June 2015 beg to differ. Berner was given cult status. Stick him in the prem and he would have died. Nice enough of a chap but not the super hero he was made out to be. And Konchesky hasn't been very good in the Prem this season either. I'm not sure of your point - I was comparing them at Championship level. Konchesky wasn't very good for us at Premier League level, whether Berner would've been or not is pure speculation. There's no way you could've known whether Berner would've made the step up better than Konchesky has (or rather hasn't) done. I'm not saying he was a superhero, I'm saying he was an excellent Championship level full-back who had a massive influence on our team and Konchesky was just a decent Championship level full-back who did a solid enough job for his first couple of seasons.
Guest Posted 6 June 2015 Posted 6 June 2015 I like Konch. Too many people on here only look at "the last game" He's not our best LB any longer but he has been. Thanks Paul and all the best with next season.
Richard Posted 6 June 2015 Posted 6 June 2015 He's played at the highest level for a large part of his career and has the experience that can only be beneficial to the younger players in the dressing room. He most likely won't play all that much but there's not many players better to have as a third choice in case of an injury crisis
Guest Posted 6 June 2015 Posted 6 June 2015 He's played at the highest level for a large part of his career and has the experience that can only be beneficial to the younger players in the dressing room. He most likely won't play all that much but there's not many players better to have as a third choice in case of an injury crisis Are you saying he's like an English Cambiasso then?
Richard Posted 6 June 2015 Posted 6 June 2015 Are you saying he's like an English Cambiasso then?Well no because Cambiasso is expecting to get in the side every week. More a Chris Powell or Dean Hammond - not expecting to play every week but provides a good influence on others
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