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Claudio Ranieri?

By talking_goldfish, in Leicester City Forum

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foxinsocks

foxinsocks

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Everyone wants a long term appointment that works. In our current situation we'd be better off with a quick fix that keeps us up regardless of how long they stay, then work to identify a long-term successor or establish a setup whereby the manager isn't in charge of everything from top to bottom.

Hmmmm... pl clubs have loads of money and some of the world's top players... yet our teams aren't the best (look at our poor champions league performances). Imo this is coz high pressure for results causes turnover in managers and when a new guy comes in it is disruptive and players are churned thus reducing returns from wages and fees paid. Given the on going likelihood of managers coming and going it would make sense to have good club structure and processes independent of the manager.

Kitchandro

Kitchandro

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Everyone wants a long term appointment that works. In our current situation we'd be better off with a quick fix that keeps us up regardless of how long they stay, then work to identify a long-term successor or establish a setup whereby the manager isn't in charge of everything from top to bottom.

 

Why in our current situation? The manager will be taking over a club in great shape and a very promising squad that underachieved last season.

 

I'm not sure where this mentality has come from where we're in deep shit and scraping up would be a success.

 

We cannot afford to stagnate - if we're not moving forward we're risking losing our best players and getting weaker. We need to strike while the iron's hot, a good season is essential to keep the momentum. Otherwise we'll end up like Sunderland and Villa season after season.

Kitchandro

Kitchandro

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This is about the 4th time betting has been suspended, I wouldn't read anything into it.

The most worrying thing (if it is Ranieri) is that we didn't sound him out before he had to make it known he was interested. Makes you wonder what the bloody hell is going on.

 

Basically we've given it to the first bloke who actually wants it.

st albans fox

st albans fox

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He's done more than enough to show he's proven to me. When he was at Burnley he signed Charlie Austin, Inges and Trippier, then he left Burnley because it was a dump, went back to Bournemouth and won back to back promotions. After a year in the Premier League there's a good chance the big boys will be after him, so this could be our only change to get him.

He left burnley cos he wanted to return to Bournemouth. Suspect the only place he could work is soton or a a London based outfit.

Mark_w

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Why in our current situation? The manager will be taking over a club in great shape and a very promising squad that underachieved last season.

 

:crylaugh:

KP Fox

KP Fox

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Yeah Great! Let's get Ranieri who's banked over £10m for being sacked from every single club he's managed in the last 10 years. He's also been sacked by the Greek national team for losing to the Faroe Islands!! 

Kitchandro

Kitchandro

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:crylaugh:

 

Care to elaborate?

 

We spent the majority of it rooted to the foot then once we pulled our finger out beat pretty much everyone. By the end we were battering teams like Swansea and Southampton.

 

I think that's a fairly strong argument to suggest we could and should have finished higher.

Wymsey

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Yeah Great! Let's get Ranieri who's banked over £10m for being sacked from every single club he's managed in the last 10 years. He's also been sacked by the Greek national team for losing to the Faroe Islands!! 

There's always one.

Fez of Mahrez

Fez of Mahrez

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Why in our current situation? The manager will be taking over a club in great shape and a very promising squad that underachieved last season.

 

I'm not sure where this mentality has come from where we're in deep shit and scraping up would be a success.

 

We cannot afford to stagnate - if we're not moving forward we're risking losing our best players and getting weaker. We need to strike while the iron's hot, a good season is essential to keep the momentum. Otherwise we'll end up like Sunderland and Villa season after season.

I just think a more experienced manager who can hit the ground running is suited to us at the moment rather than appointing someone with the idea that they'll be here for years.

I don't think we're in quite as strong a position as you suggest though. Our players didn't prove last season they could be consistent at Premier League level. The jury is still out for me on a lot of them and there's a lot of uncertainty with only a month to go, positions in the squad yet to be filled and decisions to be taken on how we'll play.

Guest ttfn

Guest ttfn

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Why in our current situation? The manager will be taking over a club in great shape and a very promising squad that underachieved last season.

I'm not sure where this mentality has come from where we're in deep shit and scraping up would be a success.

We cannot afford to stagnate - if we're not moving forward we're risking losing our best players and getting weaker. We need to strike while the iron's hot, a good season is essential to keep the momentum. Otherwise we'll end up like Sunderland and Villa season after season.

We were always going to struggle next season. Everyone outside of the top 9 was in deep shit at some point this season (Palace, late season darlings were in the bottom 3 and sinking like a stone at Christmas). It was never realistic to expect us to do anything other than simply stay up this coming season. Sure, maybe 45 points would be the target, but make no mistake, Pearson or no Pearson we'd have been in trouble at some point next season.

As it is, we're a weak-ish Premier League team with no manager a week into pre-season. Other sides have started playing friendlies. We've given ourselves a massive disadvantage from the off and even with a fair wind our ceiling for this year was always likely to be lower-mid-table.

There's a thread asking "Where will Okazaki fit in?". Nobody has a bloody clue because here we are, 4 weeks from the opening day with a squad of players who won't be familiar to a new manager, 3 new signings 2 of whom we have no idea how they'll fit in and a squad totally unsuited to playing any formation without 2 central strikers, a system which is largely out of fashion these days and not one we can pin our hopes on a new manager adopting. Add to that the fact that our best player from last season seems unlikely to re-sign and we've got a bit of a problem.

Right now I'd say we're in a worse position than we were this time last year. The only thing we've got in our favour is experience and the rest is an absolute shambles.

We need to get the right man in next week.

Mark_w

Mark_w

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Care to elaborate?

 

We spent the majority of it rooted to the foot then once we pulled our finger out beat pretty much everyone. By the end we were battering teams like Swansea and Southampton.

 

I think that's a fairly strong argument to suggest we could and should have finished higher.

 

I think a huge amount of that is down to the addition of Robert Huth and his influence on the defence. Plus we over performed in the run-in and there was a great deal of luck, Burnley for example could have just as easily been a defeat on the performance or had Taylor netted the penalty. We got sides like Newcastle when they were shambolic and a few others when they had less to play for. Newly promoted side, that had some pretty clear weaknesses particularly in the defence for much of the season, I think 14th was probably slightly above par.

Kitchandro

Kitchandro

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I just think a more experienced manager who can hit the ground running is suited to us at the moment rather than appointing someone with the idea that they'll be here for years.

I don't think we're in quite as strong a position as you suggest though. Our players didn't prove last season they could be consistent at Premier League level. The jury is still out for me on a lot of them and there's a lot of uncertainty with only a month to go, positions in the squad yet to be filled and decisions to be taken on how we'll play.

 

Not disagreeing with you about the sort of manager we need as such, I'm just not sure why we should expect to struggle.

 

When we attacked teams we were consistently good. Our players were inconsistent but our tactics didn't help them at all, in fact quite often they made the players look worse than they were.

 

There's plenty of  talent and potential in our squad, despite the weak links I'd prefer it to those of most teams that finished in the bottom half.

Guest Papasmurf

Guest Papasmurf

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Made some top signings for Chelsea. Lampard, Makelele and our very own Huth.

Guest ttfn

Guest ttfn

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Not disagreeing with you about the sort of manager we need as such, I'm just not sure why we should expect to struggle.

When we attacked teams we were consistently good. Our players were inconsistent but our tactics didn't help them at all, in fact quite often they made the players look worse than they were.

There's plenty of talent and potential in our squad, despite the weak links I'd prefer it to those of most teams that finished in the bottom half.

As you imply there was a very specific set of tactics which unlocked the potential in the side. I'm not optimistic that the new manager will just roll with a 3-4-1-2, nor am I optimistic that they'll find some other magic solution.
Guest ttfn

Guest ttfn

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Made some top signings for Chelsea. Lampard, Makelele and our very own Huth.

Joe Cole was a great signing for £6 million

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