Gerard Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I don't want MON or Ranieri but I do like his tone. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/monaco-manager-claudio-ranieri-threatens-kill-players-don-192245669--sow.html
Xen Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Bookies are super rich over this, they are loving every moment Hardly super rich. Less than 50k placed on this market so far, and thats spread across all the different bookies. Factor in that they'll have a fair bit to pay out - particularly if the 4-figure bets come in - and each bookie will make a couple k max. They'll make a lot more during a gameweek than on manager markets, although this has been a particularly successful one relatively...
ramboacdc Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 this is the most volitle market i have ever known! i give up gambling on this market! think i have claudio @ 16/1 somewhere EDIT: Just found it, i have him at 20/1
volpeazzurro Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 This is a question i'd like answering too, I guess it remains to be seen and we'll only know when/if he takes over but I have my doubts. I don't think they've done this necessarily for upgrade reasons. It has more to do with their stance on things like honour, respect and potential damage to the company/family name and brand.
Matt Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I don't think they've done this necessarily for upgrade reasons. It has more to do with their stance on things like honour, respect and potential damage to the company/family name and brand. Yes but you don't replace him with someone who's worse. I'm not say Ranieri is worse, his CV certainly trumps Pearson's that is not the point i'm making though, is he a decent replacement now? Given his age, looking at his recent past (Which isn't great), looking to the future (Which won't really be long term, 2 years at best, and I highly doubt he'd be here that long) is what i'm posing the question is would he be an upgrade or even match for where we were going under NP.
Guest ttfn Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Yes but you don't replace him with someone who's worse. I'm not say Ranieri is worse, his CV certainly trumps Pearson's that is not the point i'm making though, is he a decent replacement now? Given his age, looking at his recent past (Which isn't great), looking to the future (Which won't really be long term, 2 years at best, and I highly doubt he'd be here that long) is what i'm posing the question is would he be an upgrade or even match for where we were going under NP. I don't know what more he is supposed to have done in the recent past apart from at Greece? In the last 10 years he's re-awakened both Roma and Juve before they self-destructed (Roma were as close to winning the Scudetto under him as they have been pretty much since I can remember whilst with Juventus he finished 3rd and 2nd before they finished 7th in the first season without him). He took Monaco up (piece of piss) and then had them comfortably second in their first season back. If you remember how long it took Man City to get going after they got money from nowhere you'll appreciate that that's no mean feat. The Greece thing was obviously a cock up but they're crap now he's left too, losing again to the Faroes. I'd suggest there's far more to it than him just being over-the-hill because all the other evidence suggests he's not. Also, we all know that there can be a big difference between the aptitude of top managers in managing club and international sides - Capello, Eriksson, Scolari and Klinsmann are all testament to that. At the moment I don't think we need a manager for the long term. We need a safe pair of hands who can help us "become established" in the Premier League. Ranieri has repeatedly delivered in terms of stabilising and improving the sides he's managed throughout his career and this hasn't stopped recently now he's got a bit older. 63 isn't ancient either. I think you're right, we probably would only get 2 years out of him but that should be enough. Given that he's expressed an interest I think he's the stand-out candidate in the field and probably the best out of work manager after Klopp (and NP obvs).
Corky Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Coming round to this idea now, was sceptical at first but I don't think he would be a disaster. Clearly wants the job too.
foxinsocks Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 MON? Ranieri ? there's only one way to find out.... (but isn't this better than Lennon, Bradley or preki?) Any interview should consider the approach they will bring to the club (the fit and the risk) as well as how much they want it (common cause... not just $$$)
Leicesterpool Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Let's just face it everyone on this god's earth as been linked to this job.
Foreverfox Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I'd rather have a bloke who has publicly come out and said he wants the job rather than have to persuade someone that this is the place to be by dangling large £ in front of them to get them. As far as I'm aware he's the only one who has said he wants it so give it to him!
volpeazzurro Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Yes but you don't replace him with someone who's worse. I'm not say Ranieri is worse, his CV certainly trumps Pearson's that is not the point i'm making though, is he a decent replacement now? Given his age, looking at his recent past (Which isn't great), looking to the future (Which won't really be long term, 2 years at best, and I highly doubt he'd be here that long) is what i'm posing the question is would he be an upgrade or even match for where we were going under NP. I don't think it would matter to our owners if it had been Mourinho himself, if he didn't fit in with their set of values he'd have gone and most after him would be a step down. I'm a Pearson fan but he made quite a lot of bad decisions early on in the season for me but there again, all managers make mistakes at times. I think Ranieri's record is sound with the exception of the five minute Greek job. His job prior to that I believe was Monaco where he did well. There are some good right ups on his history at clubs. As for length of tenure, lasting just 2-3 years is not uncommon these days in the Premiership but Italian teams seem even more fickle than us which is where Ranieri spent quite a lot of his career. I for one would welcome him here compared with some that are currently on offer. I do like the sound of the young French manager however though know nothing about him other than what I've just read.
ramboacdc Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 its now got to the point we are tracking the owners helicopter...should we draw a line some time soon?
Ozwin Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Being well thick but how are people making money off this before a manager has been announced?
Kitchandro Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 NP wasn't sacked for football reasons so it's irrelevant. Nige is gone and we need a new manager, someone's got to be appointed. Of course it's relevant, whatever he was sacked for the football is all I'm bothered about. I'm not bothered about their pride or their business. We need to progress and I demand a manager who represents that. Anything less and the owners can expect an unhappy group of fans.
Spicer Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Just sign someone fgs. All this speculation is killing me.
My Nads Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I like that the bookies don't have any ideas, because there is still a chance we could get Eddie Howe and they have hardly mentioned him.
Stevosevic Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I like that the bookies don't have any ideas, because there is still a chance we could get Eddie Howe and they have hardly mentioned him. I wish we were getting a long term appointment like that
Matt Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I wish we were getting a long term appointment like that This. Saying that i'd want someone abit more proven than Eddie Howe, if he had a successful PL year under his belt he'd probably be near the top of my list, the fact he hasn't and it's abit of the unknown puts me off him abit but the long term fact is big issue for me. We're looking at people who will be here for 2 years at most, probably less than 2 years, for me that's no good, I want to look at a few years down the line, Pearson is the first manager we've had for years that looked like it'd be a long term situation, settled, a unit, consistancy, stability. Look no matter who we have it won't last forever, they'll either get sacked or eventually leave but i'd like someone who we'd be looking at keeping past 2 or 3 years. The issue with Ranieri and MON as far as i'm concerned is they'll either leave us worse off or no better off (Which provided we're still fighting in the PL is fine by me) but in 1 and a half years time or 2 years time we'll be in exactly the same position regarding the managerial situation again, that for me is not progression, that is simply treading water.
My Nads Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I wish we were getting a long term appointment like that He's a fantastic manager and he's the only one I think of in the same way as Nige. A lot of managers get by from having a good season or two with some luck, but when they change club they can't reproduce it. The few good mangers, like Pearson and Howe really do know what they are doing and know how to build a good team time after time.
Deucalion Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 its now got to the point we are tracking the owners helicopter...should we draw a line some time soon? Says the person with FlightTracker PROFESSIONAL !!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Everyone wants a long term appointment that works. In our current situation we'd be better off with a quick fix that keeps us up regardless of how long they stay, then work to identify a long-term successor or establish a setup whereby the manager isn't in charge of everything from top to bottom.
Deucalion Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 He's a fantastic manager and he's the only one I think of in the same way as Nige. A lot of managers get by from having a good season or two with some luck, but when they change club they can't reproduce it. The few good mangers, like Pearson and Howe really do know what they are doing and know how to build a good team time after time. Hasn't Howe only ever been any good at Bournemouth?
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