Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 He spent more than Wenger around that time easily So you're saying if you put Wenger in charge or Villa at that time and gave him the budget O'Neill had, and had O'Neill managing Arsenal with the squad they already had in place, the positions would of been reversed? Absolute lunacy to think getting Villa finishing 6th was poor.
Legend_in_blue Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 I find some people's views on MON on here surprising. He'd hardly be replacing a tactical genius, so for me the 'he doesn't know the league argument' is a non starter. I also don't buy the non-stop workman like application of his team. We were often labelled 'boring, boring Leicester' under his management but the team he left us with was a delight to watch. We played some great football. Boring, boring Leicester was sang many times under sarcastic tones from the stand. I'd welcome MON back here and anyone less accustomed to the idea either wasn't old enough to experience the late 90s or is a fool. Enough said.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 So you're saying if you put Wenger in charge or Villa at that time and gave him the budget O'Neill had, and had O'Neill managing Arsenal with the squad they already had in place, the positions would of been reversed? Absolute lunacy to think getting Villa finishing 6th was poor. I said nothing of the sort, why twist what I've said? He asked who he spent more than in the top 4, I gave him someone. Simple.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 He most probably did. But I'd wager that before O'Neill started spending money Wenger had a considerly better side to begin with. End of the day, if O'Neill spent 120 million whilst at Villa and got 6th, 6th, 6th in a row, thats still probably about as good as it was going to get. What? it's all about what the squad's are before you spend a load of cash on a load of tat these days?
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 You think he did a bad job at Villa? You think he should of broken in to the top 4 given the money spent? I said nothing of the sort, why twist what I've said? He asked who he spent more than in the top 4, I gave him someone. Simple.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 You think he did a bad job at Villa? You think he should of broken in to the top 4 given the money spent? I don't think he did a bad job there, but I don't think it can be considered a fantastic achievement.
5waller5 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 villa 4 years before O'Neill 02 16th 03 6th 04 10th 05 16th avg 12th mainly due to one good year O'Neill era 06 11th 07 6th 08 6th 09 6th avg 7th 4 years After O'Neill 10 9th 11 16th 12 15th 13 15th AVG 14th - and 17th last season ! Top Post ...... My Villa mates didn't rate him that highly but you can't argue with those stats!!!
My Nads Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 It is very likely to happen, yes. I'm at the conclusion now that the bookies, the news & anyone else who claims that they are 'ITK' actually know fvck all! A statement saying 'Leicester are interested in O'Neill' from some idiot at sky is what we are going off!! Who told Rob Dorsett of this interest before they told Ireland? Have you thought, sky control sports news and they are also one of biggest sports betting companies out there now. Let's throw loads of random names out in the news and claim to be 'ITK' get loads of people betting on what they know is bollocks! It's a win for them. It would be interesting to see how much they could change peoples betting with what they tell us. You have to take anything SSN say with a pinch of salt. They're the Daily Star of TV.
Guest kristianity77 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 What? it's all about what the squad's are before you spend a load of cash on a load of tat these days? You stared all this off by stating that O'Neill didn't do a good job at Villa because he spent 120 million and didn't break into the top 4. All I'm saying is is that 120 million doesn't and won't break you into the top 4 going from where Villa started when he signed. He may have spent more money than Wenger in that time period I can't be bothered to check but Villa didn't have a side as good as Arsenal when MON took over did he?
Robin JD Popley Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Really, really want him to come home... THERE'S ONLY ONE MARTIN O'NEILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fox 4 Life Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 So we haven't even approached him, he might turn round and say no thanks again
TheSomersetFox Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 My Villa supporting mate doesn't talk too highly of MON either. Mainly talks of the money spent and him not rotating the team enough near the back end of a certain season which apparently cost them a place in the top 4. Are all Villa fans fvcking idiots?
5waller5 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 I wonder how far fetched a MON / Lennon partnership would be ... with possibly MON keeping his Eire job??
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 My Villa supporting mate doesn't talk too highly of MON either. Mainly talks of the money spent and him not rotating the team enough near the back end of a certain season which apparently cost them a place in the top 4. Are all Villa fans fvcking idiots? No. They're all cvnts.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 My Villa supporting mate doesn't talk too highly of MON either. Mainly talks of the money spent and him not rotating the team enough near the back end of a certain season which apparently cost them a place in the top 4. Are all Villa fans fvcking idiots? Hope that's rhetorical.
dayday Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Really, really want him to come home... THERE'S ONLY ONE MARTIN O'NEILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good man,he fits us like a glove We need to be in the prem next season and hopefully with Martin as boss,we certainly have a better chance
Carlos88LCFC Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Mercury saying an approach this wweekend No quotes just 'we understand'... Possibly going off the back of Sky Sports suggesting that they know about our interest in MON.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 You stared all this off by stating that O'Neill didn't do a good job at Villa because he spent 120 million and didn't break into the top 4. All I'm saying is is that 120 million doesn't and won't break you into the top 4 going from where Villa start when he signed. He may have spent more money than Wenger in that time period I can't be bothered to check but Villa didn't have a side as good as Arsenal when MON took over did he? I never said that, i said it cannot be lauded as an "extremely impressive achievement" I think he did an alright job considering the circumstances of when he arrived and with hindsight . 120 Million is a perfectly suffice warchest over the years to get into those top 4 positions, at that time anyway. Wenger had the better squad, no question but ultimately that's what the 120 Million is for, to change that and he failed to do that a lot of the money was spent on the likes of Nigel Reo Coker fgs.
nettle Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 What people are forgetting here is O'Neill did all his work with Leicester in the top league after getting us up. Then getting us consolidated in the premier league and winning us cups as well with not alot of money either, that's why he's a legend. How long did it take Pearson to get us up into the premier league and he had decent backing with that as well. And we spent a good part of the season sat at the bottom playing dog shit football to boot.
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Dog shit gets bad press. I once stepped on some and brought it inside onto the carpets and it smelt fantastic.
Guest kristianity77 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 I never said that, i said it cannot be lauded as an "extremely impressive achievement" I think he did an alright job considering the circumstances of when he arrived and with hindsight . 120 Million is a perfectly suffice warchest over the years to get into those top 4 positions, at that time anyway. Wenger had the better squad, no question but ultimately that's what the 120 Million is for, to change that and he failed to do that a lot of the money was spent on the likes of Nigel Reo Coker fgs. But it is an impressive achievement thats the thing. Look at it this way. Pick any manager now for Leicester, your choice. And over the next 3 seasons this said manager spends 150 million on players (up from the 120 O'neill spent to allow for inflation and all that). If Leicester finished 6th, 6th and 6th, how would you feel as a fan? Would you be annoyed you didn't finish higher, really?
Carlos88LCFC Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 What people are forgetting here is O'Neill did all his work with Leicester in the top league after getting us up. Then getting us consolidated in the premier league and winning us cups as well with not alot of money either, that's why he's a legend. How long did it take Pearson to get us up into the premier league and he had decent backing with that as well. And we spent a good part of the season sat at the bottom playing dog shit football to boot. But in fairness... Pearson got us from league 1, to the play offs, sacked, to the play offs, promoted, 14th place finish. Can't moan at that.
wattolcfc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Anyone still got their "Don't go Martin" signs from when he almost joined Leeds? If we appoint him, we should do a big tifo spelling that out, for old times sake
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