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Posted

One season in the Prem and all of a sudden MON isn't good enough for us  :blink:

 

It's not that he's not good enough

 

It's just that he's potentially lost what made him just soooooo great & legendary, & I'm not on about Robertson

 

Anyway, he'd be awesome after the Preki, Bradley nonsense 

Posted

Going back to the first post in this thread .... How do we know someone is being interviewed today?

 

There's a sign above reception saying 'applicants this way'

Posted

Why is Villa top 6 incredible?

They were there or thereabouts around that time.... until Randy Learner sold through the best players, part of the reason MoN left

No they weren't, the struggled in the same sort of position as now before him, think they finished 16th.

He did a poor job at Sunderland but a great one at villa, no question

Posted

Haha, just knew no-one would actually be good enough for this forum. Some deluded individuals on here that's for sure.

I for one, would take MON back in a heartbeat. Excellent manager and would provide stability.

Plus he's a legend for my generation of city fan

Posted

What concerns me is how much the game has changed since O'Neill's previous stints at other clubs. More importantly the structure in place at the club under Pearson with regard to the sports science side of things, something which has served us incredibly well in recent seasons particularly with conditioning and player injury reduction. O'Neill is famously old fashioned in his methods and in the 'game every week' way of the Prem it's going to differ from the odd match as an International manager.

Cracks began to become evident towards the end of his stint at Sunderland, it worries me that we could suffer the same fate, plus the added pressure of his status here.

So a lot has changed in 2 years... stop acting like the last time he was in management was when he was our manager, that is what people are doing
Posted

One season in the Prem and all of a sudden MON isn't good enough for us :blink:

eh?

  • He left Leicester to go to Celtic
  • He did great at Celtic and decided to take a break
  • He did better than anyone much else has done in years at Villa and decided to leave after 4 years following a dispute with Lerner
  • He took Sunderland to their best finish in the Prem in his first season, was strugling in his 2nd season and got sacked before he had a chance to turn it around
  • He has only ever once been sacked
  • He is still managing today so it's not as if he is stale
  • We have a squad full of players to match the type of football he plays
  • He is a similar manager to Pearson in that he looks after his players, protects them and builds squads with great team spirit
  • his appointment is likely to keep both fans, players and staff upbeat allowing us to go into the season on a high rather than a low after the Pearson sacking.
  • he carries no baggage these days and hence a good chance he will keep the existing backroom staff, or even agree to as part of his contract meaning even less disruption.

it is a lot more than just sentiment

if it happens that is :)

Posted

One season in the Prem and all of a sudden MON isn't good enough for us  :blink:

It's not that we're better, it's about wanting to take it to the next step. MON is merely to consolidate our position, meaning Pearson's departure was pointless. 

Posted

Its amazing that when transfer dealings are going on we seem to have well placed ITKs that can be v accurate with info passed on, yet 10 days later nobody can confirm or not if there is an interview going on today. If these four figure bets were in fact placed on MON, they were either inspirational or with solid info. So why the shyness about an interview. Nobody really knows if its happening.

Posted

I've seen some bollocks in my time on foxestalk but some of the negative comments on here take it to a whole new level

Posted

100% those saying he "knew" the premier league have listed several people who have not managed in it, or have been away longer than he has as people they would like.

Posted

So a lot has changed in 2 years... stop acting like the last time he was in management was when he was our manager, that is what people are doing

The last time he managed in this league he failed.

Interestingly the last time O'Neill finished 6th with Aston Villa, Alan Curbishley got West Ham into the top 10 after avoiding relegation the previous season, would you take him on the same basis?

I don't want O'Neill to fail here but at the same time I don't want sentiment to cloud the owners judgements.

 

Posted

Why oh why do some leicester fans just love, to post negative cr#p, to any new manager suggestions.

Why do a negative analyse before a ball is kicked, or anything is signed.

Non of you would make good trekking, or diving companians, you would all be seeing Yetis and sharks attacking you, before

You got in the Taxi.

I bet none of you fly, bloody plain crash victims ,before your wife tells you what holiday she booked.

No .!! Forgot you wouldnt get married,just because they poor girl wouldnt be good enough.

O'Neill is the first manager I've chosen to comment on in a, you could say, negative light.

He obviously had a great time here before, a great time at Celtic and a great time at Villa.

I just think the premiership as it stands, with all the best managers coming over from all corners of the world, it's a little deep for him now and we could possibly attract better.

It's a great risk for MON, I wouldn't disregard his previous success if he does fail, but I know a few people on here that would!

Posted

I think some people are confusing negativity v realism. Nobody is doubting Martin O'Neill is a legend here - every Leicester City fan will love him - but you have to consider several things here. There's no point in hiring him just because "he's a legend". 

Posted

Why is Villa top 6 incredible?

 

They were there or thereabouts around that time.... until Randy Learner sold through the best players, part of the reason MoN left

 

what is this good manager stuff all about, has his infectious personality changed over 20 years? He certaintly doesn't seem to have the same impact since Robertson left

 

He didn't man-manage at Sunderland very well, in fact Advocaat did more in a few games there than MoN ever did

 

If it is to be MoN, I hope to god the board can get Shakey & Walsh to stay on & not just pay them off as MoN moves his current crew in

 

 

villa  4 years before O'Neill

 

02   16th

03   6th

04   10th

05   16th

 

avg 12th mainly due to one good year

 

O'Neill era

 

06   11th

07   6th

08   6th

09   6th

 

avg 7th

 

4 years After O'Neill

 

10   9th

11   16th

12   15th

13   15th

 

 

AVG 14th - and 17th last season !

Posted

I don't know why some people have such a hard on for MoN when all he has done for the last 16 years in our hour of need is reject us.

Suddenly we are in the Premier League as opposed to League 1 and he is all ears.

The man doesn't have the love for this club that many think, the only reason he would join is for the money as his reputation as a manager has sunk a lot in the last 5 years.

Posted

I don't know why some people have such a hard on for MoN when all he has done for the last 16 years in our hour of need is reject us.

Suddenly we are in the Premier League as opposed to League 1 and he is all ears.

The man doesn't have the love for this club that many think, the only reason he would join is for the money as his reputation as a manager has sunk a lot in the last 5 years.

 

Bit harsh. In that time he's been at three other clubs and his wife has been ill.

Posted

What concerns me is how much the game has changed since O'Neill's previous stints at other clubs. More importantly the structure in place at the club under Pearson with regard to the sports science side of things, something which has served us incredibly well in recent seasons particularly with conditioning and player injury reduction. O'Neill is famously old fashioned in his methods and in the 'game every week' way of the Prem it's going to differ from the odd match as an International manager.

Cracks began to become evident towards the end of his stint at Sunderland, it worries me that we could suffer the same fate, plus the added pressure of his status here.

It's true ... When we think (Wenger aside) how lucky every other club in this division is to have had their manager stay with them so long because managers can't possibly adapt to coming into a new club ....

I'll admit I'd prefer a younger MON but time takes its toll on us all - and while his ways might not be as modern as some as long as he still has the tactical nouse and motivational prowess to keep the team working as hard as it did in the last 9 games last season I'm sure he'll do fine.

Posted

I don't know why some people have such a hard on for MoN when all he has done for the last 16 years in our hour of need is reject us.

Suddenly we are in the Premier League as opposed to League 1 and he is all ears.

The man doesn't have the love for this club that many think, the only reason he would join is for the money as his reputation as a manager has sunk a lot in the last 5 years.

 

Christ, love? This isn't a potential girlfriend! We are a football club that he had success with 15 years a go.

 

He rejected us previously because he wants to manage at the highest level, you can't blame him for that.

Posted

100% those saying he "knew" the premier league have listed several people who have not managed in it, or have been away longer than he has as people they would like.

lol, I did want Klopp, as did everyone.

The reason I don't think MON is the right man for us is not because of his 'lack of recent experience in the premier league' it's because I think peoples love for him is clouding the fact that he is actually not the best person we have been linked with...

Posted

It's not that we're better, it's about wanting to take it to the next step. MON is merely to consolidate our position, meaning Pearson's departure was pointless. 

 

Or maybe the owners looked at his record at Villa, turning them from a 16th position to three consecutive 6th position finishes in 4 seasons there.

 

Something that very few managers have achieved in their career and exactly what we are looking to do at Leicester.

Posted

Or maybe the owners looked at his record at Villa, turning them from a 16th position to three consecutive 6th position finishes in 4 seasons there.

 

Something that very few managers have achieved in their career and exactly what we are looking to do at Leicester.

he spent £120Million and couldn't break top 4, it's hardly an extremely impressive achievement.

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