justfoxes Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 MON had a successful tenure with us up till 2000 but I still can remember the awful scenes just 5weeks into his start at the club nothing was going right the crowd wanted him out some demonstrated very vocally, but the gentle Irishman turned things around winning promotions and trophies and became one hell of a legend at Leicester City. Now with him being linked again would you really want the return of the prodigle son to the Leicester City family or would you keep MON's history as it is in the past ? It would be awful if he came in and didn't live up to the expectations of the owners younger fans etc I for one think we should remember the great things he did for us and bring in a different manager if it was to happen is love klopp to take us over but can't see that happen but I certainly think Claudio Ranieri would do an excellent job for us ! Keep MON in our greatest history time to make a new history with a new manager !
Haydos Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Different time, different situation. What he did with us first time round was it's own achievement and will always be remembered regardless. I've said it in another thread and i'll keep repeating it, him coming back is independent and should be a footballing decision. If the owners think he's good enough and the right candidate it would be absolutely brainless to suggest passing him up just because he has a good history with the club that could possibly be a tiny bit spoilt.
Larry_LCFC Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I don't want him back for several reasons. Don't want to risk his reputation being shredded into tatters if things go wrong and I don't think he has adapted particularly well to the modern game. Get the impression he is very much old school and set in his ways. Possibly not what we need right now.
Carl the Llama Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Coming back and failing should have no effect on his hero status given the silverware he's won us. But then this is the club where some fans still need explaining that Pearson was a great manager for us so let's not take anything for granted. You're probably better off staying away for that reason alone Martin because there will be some who complain about you regardless.
Webbo Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 If MON hadn't got a good history here, would anyone on here really be enthusiastic for him to come?
Guest Papasmurf Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 If MON hadn't got a good history would anyone on here really be enthusiastic for him to come? No.
Suffolk exile Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 If MON hadn't got a good history would anyone on here really be enthusiastic for him to come? No. But he does. .....
robbie Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I´m also a bit scheptical to MON returning. Never forgetting the glory he brought here last time but is he really the modern type of manager we need? I he comes back I will naturally give him my full support. However, I think we could do better?
filbertway Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 If MON hadn't got a good history would anyone on here really be enthusiastic for him to come? With Leicester or do you mean his managerial record in general? If you're talking about specifically Leicester then: If he was great with Leicester then followed it up with 15 years of being awful then no. If he was poor at Leicester but followed that with 15 years of managing at the top level and doing a good job then yes. If you are talking generally then no, why would we want a manager who has a poor record?
Larry_LCFC Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 But the helicopter? I take it you mean the Prekicopter?
Frank to be Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Even if he does come back and fails, which will apparently tarnish his reputation with people unable to distinguish between two separate events, what is the actual problem with that? What do we really lose? It's not like the club would be in any major trouble just because a minority of fans no longer viewed Martin O'Neill in quite the same way as they did before. It's a non-existent risk.
RedSoxUK Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Nigel Pearson had a successful tenure with us up till 2010 but I still can remember the awful scenes at Cardiff when Kermorgant chipped it, but the alpha Englishman turned things around winning a promotion and became one hell of a legend at Leicester City. (Then he returned, had awful scenes at Warford when Deeney deened it, and turned things around winning a promotion and became one hell of a legend at Leicester City once more.) Rubbish this Never Go Back bolux now. If he can do the job, stabilise the club with the players and coaches currently here - his history or successes and failures elsewhere are ultimately irrelevant. If you're old enough to have been involved in the O'Neil era and feel a nostalgic reaction to O'Neil being our new manager, then try and rid your expectations and similarities to his original spell. I was 8 when O'Neil left, so never really fully understood the era, though looking back at history can appreciate it and our accomplishments with him. It would be a great injustice to O'Neil, and the now younger fans who have 'heard the stories,' to rid O'Neil's chances of becoming our manager just because you want his memory and name to remain positive and relevant to the 90s and early 00s. Even if we get relegated with O'Neil with 0 points, he'll still be a ****ing legend who got us three League cup finals in four years winning two of them, nothing will change that.
Bayfox Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I don't want him back for the following reasons. 1 times have moved on. His spell at villa ended with him throwing his toys out the pram. His spell at Sunderland was poor and his Ireland record not great. It will tarnish what he achieved before. I wish we had the money the 1st time round. Also since he lost john Robertson I think his stock has fallen. Mon was the man manager. I'd love to see him come and it work. I just don't think it will. I don't want him back for the following reasons. 1 times have moved on. His spell at villa ended with him throwing his toys out the pram. His spell at Sunderland was poor and his Ireland record not great. It will tarnish what he achieved before. I wish we had the money the 1st time round. Also since he lost john Robertson I think his stock has fallen. Mon was the man manager. I'd love to see him come and it work. I just don't think it will.
Zapp Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Depends on who you think we should get instead while being realistic. I'm not massively excited by it, but there's certainly worse.
Sir Shep Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Not for me, but if he keeps Walsh and Shakey as assistants and spends sensibly then I dares say my mind would be changed. He is a legend though.
Kitchandro Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 How is this any different to what's being discussed in the Martin O'Neill thread?
lgfualol Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Not entirely keen on him but I'm a bit cautious of all our potential managers. I think if we keep our current staff then he'll be okay as they can update him on how the current game works.
Sampson Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Different time, different situation. What he did with us first time round was it's own achievement and will always be remembered regardless. Even if we get relegated with O'Neil with 0 points, he'll still be a ****ing legend who got us three League cup finals in four years winning two of them, nothing will change that. It can easily happen though. Frank McLintock was regarded as an absolute legend in his time - as one of the best Leicester players of all-time and one of the absolute key players in one of, if not the,greatest ever Leicester side, He only came back as a manager because he was a legend and loved the club (he once admitted he wasn't ready for the job and wouldn't have gone to manage if it wasn't Leicester. Yet most people nowadays just remember him as one of Leicester's worst ever managers rather than one of Leicester's greatest ever players and his reputation has largely been completely tarnished. Coming back and "tarnishing" your reputation definitely can happen and has happened, especially as this is another generation of fans now who didn't witness his first time around first hand.
l444ry Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Not entirely keen on him but I'm a bit cautious of all our potential managers. I think if we keep our current staff then he'll be okay as they can update him on how the current game works. Haha. That is so funny. Do you think everyone over 60 loses their memory? Having said that, you might be right. Martin O'Neill has probably forgotten more about management than those two know put together.
RedSoxUK Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 It can easily happen though. Frank McLintock was regarded as an absolute legend in his time - as one of the best Leicester players of all-time and one of the absolute key players in one of, if not the,greatest ever Leicester side, He only came back as a manager because he was a legend and loved the club (he once admitted he wasn't ready for the job and wouldn't have gone to manage if it wasn't Leicester. Yet most people nowadays just remember him as one of Leicester's worst ever managers rather than one of Leicester's greatest ever players and his reputation has largely been completely tarnished. Coming back and "tarnishing" your reputation definitely can happen and has happened, especially as this is another generation of fans now who didn't witness his first time around first hand. Different situation, that's player going back as manager, not player going back as player or manager going back as manager. I don't associate Guppy's spell in 04 with the O'Neil era or Dickov's in 08 with the Adams era.
smudger63 Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 I don't want him back for several reasons. Don't want to risk his reputation being shredded into tatters if things go wrong and I don't think he has adapted particularly well to the modern game. Get the impression he is very much old school and set in his ways. Possibly not what we need right now. Three top 6 finishes with Villa, getting Sunderland to their highest Premier finish in years, in the recent "modern game" not good enough for you then?
ImBlue Posted 11 July 2015 Posted 11 July 2015 Chose Sunderland when we clearly wanted him when we were in the championship. Too good for us. His stock has lowered and our have grown, we don't need him and can do better than him. A manager that hasn't really adapted well over time as many have said before me,
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