Guest CityFan 06 Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Wonderful comeback again yesterday. Especially away from home to come from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 shows a real superb character from the team. Good to keep momentum building ahead of the next upcoming games.
Jackster21 Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Offence is good with Vardy, Mahrez, Dyer and Okazaki. However we can't afford the comebacks, we have to start scoring more earlier on, like the Sunderland game. Also in Janury we need a new, solid CB to replace Morgan or Huth. Our defence needs a lot of work done to it if we are going to stay up as our defence on the Stoke game was auful.
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Offence is good with Vardy, Mahrez, Dyer and Okazaki. However we can't afford the comebacks, we have to start scoring more earlier on, like the Sunderland game. Also in Janury we need a new, solid CB to replace Morgan or Huth. Our defence needs a lot of work done to it if we are going to stay up as our defence on the Stoke game was auful.Ron Vlaar?
weller54 Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Vardy & Kramaric up front next week. Vards and Ulloa for me!
Foxhateram Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Wait, you just admonish Ranieri for tinkering and tell him not to tinker and then you change the formation and players with in two lines? What sort of nob are you?What the hell are you on about? I am suggesting returning to the successful formation we ended last season with. One he shouldn't have tinkered with in the first place. End of last season we were defending better and scoring good goals. It worked better then any formation he has out out. So go and do one with your pointless insults. His need to put Inler in the team after the villa game was atrocious, Inler had an absolute stinker and CR shouldn't have dropped King for him in the first place. End of. People should not be picked on name, they should be picked on form. P.s. If your going to insult someone, it would help if you could spell the word correctly.
st albans fox Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 6 games gone. How many times have the opposition got behind us to the byline and pulled a cross back from a really dangerous position with men in the box? I assume the persistence with the back 4 is to prevent this happening. It's a pretty standard tactical problem playing a back 3. I would like to think that Claudio, with his experience, can come up with a formation that manages to play to our strengths. Clearly , 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 exposes the central midfield and consequently the two centre halves. So we have to play the Keegan mantra of you score two, we'll score three. Pearson saw this last year after Man U and decided he couldn't play that 'game'. He was wrong but I understood why he would calculate the odds as he did. if CR persists with the back 4, we will win a few, lose a few and draw a few and it will never be too boring! (Until later in the season when some teams come to the KP desperate for a draw and don't commit forward at all). I expect rainieri won't experiment drastically until he considers us relatively safe. We have twelve points and we have a home game against arsenal. Surely the perfect time to try something different? Especially against a possession team keen on playing in our half.
Foxhateram Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Nice finish and run by Vardy. Both the goals conceded have little to do with the formation and more with individual mistakes. RDL needed to concede a foul once the guy was inside, we then give him tonnes of space. Neither Huth nor Morgan looked good for the second. The fact there is no cover for inevitable individual errors has everything to do with the formation we are playing and the midfield we are playing as well. Hence why in the second half we didn't concede again, despite some errors still occurring.
dylanlegend Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Offence is good with Vardy, Mahrez, Dyer and Okazaki. However we can't afford the comebacks, we have to start scoring more earlier on, like the Sunderland game. Also in Janury we need a new, solid CB to replace Morgan or Huth. Our defence needs a lot of work done to it if we are going to stay up as our defence on the Stoke game was auful. I just think we play much more solid playing a back 3. As our full backs go forward so much it leaves the back 2 exposed. 3-4-1-2 makes us solid at the back and brilliant to watch attacking wise. At the end of last season we looked unbeatable!! At the minute it just seems we are getting away with it a bit
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 I just think we play much more solid playing a back 3. As our full backs go forward so much it leaves the back 2 exposed. 3-4-1-2 makes us solid at the back and brilliant to watch attacking wise. At the end of last season we looked unbeatable!! At the minute it just seems we are getting away with it a bitIt also allows us to play Albrightonwho is a very important player for us imo. He plays the RWB role really well too
st albans fox Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 People should not be picked on name, they should be picked on form. I'm pretty sure that EC didn't sign because CR wouldn't guarantee him a start if fit. Esteban just wants to play - every game! I also have a feeling that when it came to it, we were quite desperate to get Inler in so may have made that kind of commitment to him. I hope not. Suppose we'll see over the next few games ............... Fwiw, I think a bit of indulgence now with GI will pay dividends in the longer term.
VLC86 Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Would love to know what Wes was actually trying to do, how did he think bicycle kicking it back to Kasper would end well?
Foxhateram Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 I'm pretty sure that EC didn't sign because CR wouldn't guarantee him a start if fit. Esteban just wants to play - every game! I also have a feeling that when it came to it, we were quite desperate to get Inler in so may have made that kind of commitment to him. I hope not. Suppose we'll see over the next few games ............... Fwiw, I think a bit of indulgence now with GI will pay dividends in the longer term. I'm just not sure we can afford to give players such indulgence. It might seem rosy now while we are winning, but when it comes to Later in the season and we have had an awful run after a very tough December. We may look back and say why did we play Inler in that Stoke game? We could have had all 3 points had we played like the second half from the start. Of course I am playing devils advocate a little here, but I just don't think we can afford the luxury of letting players get up to speed in the league. We need to accumulate all the points we can early, and if layers aren't up to the standard required, then eventually they are going to cost us points. The other flip of the coin is that we have players who started the season fantastically, who must be sat on the side thinking why the hell was I dropped for a player who is completely out of form and not up to the speed of the league.
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Would love to know what Wes was actually trying to do, how did he think bicycle kicking it back to Kasper would end well?I honestly have no idea? I love Wes and he's been superb for us 90% of the time but as an experienced defender he should be smashing that out for a throw in. A diving header would've done the job too imo
st albans fox Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 The other flip of the coin is that we have players who started the season fantastically, who must be sat on the side thinking why the hell was I dropped for a player who is completely out of form and not up to the speed of the league. You are referring to AK. Of course I agree with you. Players should be picked on form/consistency and nothing else if there is competition for places. you could argue that Inler needs to be allowed to get his match fitness and exposure to the PL way of play so that this becomes a 'level playing field'. Much easier starting games to get this than coming on with 30 mins left. I will trust the manager on this one for the time being. I hope he isn't making a mistake though,
Mike Oxlong Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Would love to know what Wes was actually trying to do, how did he think bicycle kicking it back to Kasper would end well? Looked more ballet than football. Wes don't do ballet.
HighPeakFox Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 I totally get why people are anxious about Inler. However, I can also see the sense in starting him and hooking him if he's not right/the plan's not firing. Far better that than bringing him on when it's already lost, or indeed causing a loss by disruption. I imagine Ranieri knows all too well that he's struggling to adjust, and is trying to manage that, as well as his confidence.
Foxhateram Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 You are referring to AK. Of course I agree with you. Players should be picked on form/consistency and nothing else if there is competition for places. you could argue that Inler needs to be allowed to get his match fitness and exposure to the PL way of play so that this becomes a 'level playing field'. Much easier starting games to get this than coming on with 30 mins left. I will trust the manager on this one for the time being. I hope he isn't making a mistake though, Andy King yes, but yesterday he also dropped Albrighton who in my opinion has been so important in our upturn in form, last year and this season as well. I hope you are right though, of course I do. I would love GL to be awesome and revolutionise our midfield, I've just not seen enough yet for him to be starting in my honest opinion.
deep blue Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Nice finish and run by Vardy. Both the goals conceded have little to do with the formation and more with individual mistakes. RDL needed to concede a foul once the guy was inside, we then give him tonnes of space. Neither Huth nor Morgan looked good for the second. At the end of last season we conceded just 5 in 9 with 3 CBs. It seemed to give the defence more security; either the extra confidence meant that defenders made fewer individual errors, or we had the extra man to help recover from other's errors; or it was both of those things. Either way, that formation enabled us to stop leaking goals, to record clean sheets, but still allow suffient attacking flair in the rest of the team to score for fun.
MC Prussian Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 I'm just not sure we can afford to give players such indulgence. It might seem rosy now while we are winning, but when it comes to Later in the season and we have had an awful run after a very tough December. We may look back and say why did we play Inler in that Stoke game? We could have had all 3 points had we played like the second half from the start. Of course I am playing devils advocate a little here, but I just don't think we can afford the luxury of letting players get up to speed in the league. We need to accumulate all the points we can early, and if layers aren't up to the standard required, then eventually they are going to cost us points. The other flip of the coin is that we have players who started the season fantastically, who must be sat on the side thinking why the hell was I dropped for a player who is completely out of form and not up to the speed of the league. Wait, either you're playing Devil's Advocate here or you're slating a player for the sake of it - which way is it? You're one of the few who use every opportunity to lambast Inler and make him look worse than he was. I'm not saying he's perfect or the best player on the pitch by a landslide regardless of his actual contribution (or lack thereof). We've seen him trying to fit into the system defined by Ranieri and he's had 120 minutes of action spread over three league games so far. I know he can do better, but no matter where you are, ultimately you'll need time to adjust. I do agree that there's a considerable difference in the speed of the game between the Premier League and Serie A - it's certainly much more direct and thus more attractive, whereas you'll find a lot more passing around the back in Italy before dealing the one fatal blow (it reminds me a bit of chess, really). Looking back, however, I do not agree with the notion of some of the folks on here (you included) who put a much larger emphasis on criticizing Inler, whilst being more or less oblivious to the fact that other players on the pitch were equally bad or even worse (in spells). How about some fairness? If you would be so kind and also be a bit more harsh with the likes of De Laet, Schlupp or even Morgan or Huth (in parts - be it either yesterday or against the Villa, for instance).
narboroughblue Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Looking back at our second goal it was great to seeVardy playing on the last man. With Okazaki on the pitch all too often it is Vardy trying to win flick ons and not preparing himself to pounce. Dont think the two of them together is the way to go.
NewburyFox Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 https://yourdailyfox...ns-the-potters/ We're making a habit of this. To use a well-trodden football cliché, today's battle was a true game of two halves as a dismal first 45 minutes by the Foxes - littered with individual errors and wayward passes - was again followed by a greatly improved second half in which we once again turned the game on its head and came away with a share of the spoils... --------------------------------------------------------- My thoughts on yesterday's game. Six unbeaten
fuchsntf Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 https://yourdailyfox...ns-the-potters/ We're making a habit of this. To use a well-trodden football cliché, today's battle was a true game of two halves as a dismal first 45 minutes by the Foxes - littered with individual errors and wayward passes - was again followed by a greatly improved second half in which we once again turned the game on its head and came away with a share of the spoils... --------------------------------------------------------- My thoughts on yesterday's game. Six unbeaten Ditto x 6. Never happy some people....
Jordan Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 I'll throw in that I've backed de Laet despite a lot of shit he's gotten this season, partly because of the way Ranieri sets out fullbacks to play. But good god, he was absolutely roasted by Arnautovic leading to Stoke's first goal. That was awfully disappointing play. I love this team's mentality, though. I love how our best attackers, Mahrez and Vardy, were demanding the ball in the second half. They were both ready and willing to put the team on their backs. As for Kanté, when he wanted the ball, he just went ahead and took it. What a tackler.
mundella boy Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Good point away from home, but we must stop shipping these early goals.Not every team is going to let us back in to the game.
Gerard Posted 20 September 2015 Posted 20 September 2015 Did anyone notice how many times kante gave away possession in the last part of the game? Good performance in general though. Think the whole defence needs replacing mind. Yes, his passing needs to improve but I love his energy, hassling and tackling of the opposition. He's still looks quite raw to me but with a lot of potential.
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