Captain... Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 The thing is if he had maintained a good relationship with the press and used it to talk to the fans the McArthur incident, the spats with fans (there was more than one during his time here), the Thai incident involving his son would have blown over a lot quicker. Response to McArthur incident: I can handle myself Response to FOAD: not going to apologise, don't want fans like that here Response to Thai incident: silence Pearson never understood he was talking to the fans via the media, not having the personal battle of wills he turned his media exchanges into. Look at Pardew, he's head butted an opposition player, shove opposing managers and called them cvnts, but he always uses the media to apologise and defuse the situation Pearson had a tendency to pour petrol on the fire.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 The thing is if he had maintained a good relationship with the press and used it to talk to the fans the McArthur incident, the spats with fans (there was more than one during his time here), the Thai incident involving his son would have blown over a lot quicker. Response to McArthur incident: I can handle myself Response to FOAD: not going to apologise, don't want fans like that here Response to Thai incident: silence Pearson never understood he was talking to the fans via the media, not having the personal battle of wills he turned his media exchanges into. Look at Pardew, he's head butted an opposition player, shove opposing managers and called them cvnts, but he always uses the media to apologise and defuse the situation Pearson had a tendency to pour petrol on the fire.
Mark_w Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 If you REALLY don't think that Pearson's off the field 'wallyness' was a major contribution to him being given the boot, then I give up. Who cares what bloody Mourinho did? Its what Nigel did that I'm talking about. It lost him his job. Couldn't it just as easily be a result of what his son did off the field? Given that at the start of the summer he was being allowed to buy players and they were paying for him to go to Thailand with the rest of the squad? The thing is if he had maintained a good relationship with the press and used it to talk to the fans the McArthur incident, the spats with fans (there was more than one during his time here), the Thai incident involving his son would have blown over a lot quicker. Response to McArthur incident: I can handle myself Response to FOAD: not going to apologise, don't want fans like that here Response to Thai incident: silence Pearson never understood he was talking to the fans via the media, not having the personal battle of wills he turned his media exchanges into. Look at Pardew, he's head butted an opposition player, shove opposing managers and called them cvnts, but he always uses the media to apologise and defuse the situation Pearson had a tendency to pour petrol on the fire. Response to Ostrich incident: Using the media to apologise. Just thought I'd add that one as you forgot to mention it. What he was supposed to say about the Thailand incident when an internal enquiry was taking place, particularly given the awkwardness of his own position, I'm not sure.
MooseBreath Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Jesus aren't you lot bored of banging on about Pearson?
Captain... Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Response to Ostrich incident: Using the media to apologise. Just thought I'd add that one as you forgot to mention it. What he was supposed to say about the Thailand incident when an internal enquiry was taking place, particularly given the awkwardness of his own position, I'm not sure. He apologised through the media, but he didn't use the media. Watch this interview from Pardew after he headbutted a player: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26398152 To repeat he headbutted another player, and he wholeheartedly apologises and turns the attention back to his team Compare that to Pearson after Ostrich-gate, he apologised, but he still couldn't admit that he was wrong to get so defensive and that actually he still believed the press had been unfair, despite the fact that nearly every fan and journalist thinks the press have been pretty fair with their assessment last season. Then he gets into an argument with Pat Murphy, and again he can't control the press conference, and his refusal to back down or offer some explanation makes him sound like a nob. His media management was awful, and it reflects poorly on him because that is what everyone, other than the players see.
Corky Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Pearson should've mentioned who he was specifically talking about, I reckon it was Stringer and his comments because Pat Murphy was correct in that most of the journalists were supportive.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Surely he warrants a job in the Prem after last seasons escapades? Swansea anyone? Goes there and ruins their 'style' of play by signing Big Steve Howard and Fryatt.
GaelicFox Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Surely he warrants a job in the Prem after last seasons escapades? Swansea anyone? Goes there and ruins their 'style' of play by signing Big Steve Howard and Fryatt. Sorry he put us in that position by only waking up to the best team and best way to deploy that team after 2/3rds of the season was over I'm sorry I'm firmly of the option we Should never have been in that situation Decent championship manager , jut can't handle the stress or the technicality of the premier league Grateful as hell for all he did for us but Jesus can we just move on , Who give a flying fiddler where he goes !
Unabomber Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Sorry he put us in that position by only waking up to the best team and best way to deploy that team after 2/3rds of the season was over I'm sorry I'm firmly of the option we Should never have been in that situation Decent championship manager , jut can't handle the stress or the technicality of the premier league Grateful as hell for all he did for us but Jesus can we just move on , Who give a flying fiddler where he goes ! Says the man posting a 10 line (including unnecessary spaces) post in the Where will Nigel Pearson go next thread.
GaelicFox Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Says the man posting a 10 line (including unnecessary spaces) post in the Where will Nigel Pearson go next thread. Because It's Fecking Boring Having Mad Nigel's Job Prospects Rattled On About
Tuna Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 I think Nigel's problem is he's too expensive for most clubs. Fulham still need a manager, reckon he may go there in the end.
Kitchandro Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Because It's Fecking Boring Having Mad Nigel's Job Prospects Rattled On About This is the thread for it, to be fair.
Matt Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Because It's Fecking Boring Having Mad Nigel's Job Prospects Rattled On About But yet you keep opening (and more amusingly, replying) in the thread, I think there is a simple solution to your problem, can't quite place my finger on it though....
Frank to be Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Says the man posting a 10 line (including unnecessary spaces) post in the Where will Nigel Pearson go next thread. Did you edit that because you counted the lines wrong the first time?
Frank to be Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Surely he warrants a job in the Prem after last seasons escapades? Swansea anyone? Goes there and ruins their 'style' of play by signing Big Steve Howard and Fryatt. Absolutely no chance. Swansea think they're a top 8 club, Pearson won't even cross their minds.Pearson has an outside chance of getting a job at whichever club is in dire straights with about ten games left but that would only be on a temporary end of season deal, and that would be a poor panic appointment for whichever club employee him because as we know only too well, the man takes his sweet time getting things right. Other than that he's back in the championship or abroad.
Mark_w Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Pearson has an outside chance of getting a job at whichever club is in dire straights with about ten games left but that would only be on a temporary end of season deal, and that would be a poor panic appointment for whichever club employee him because as we know only too well, the man takes his sweet time getting things right. You think a side facing relegation to the Championship with ten games to go, would only appoint a manager with a fantastic record in the Championship on a short term deal to keep them up and would ditch him if he failed to do so? Why?
Frank to be Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 You think a side facing relegation to the Championship with ten games to go, would only appoint a manager with a fantastic record in the Championship on a short term deal to keep them up and would ditch him if he failed to do so? Why?I didn't say that they would ditch him just that they would give themselves the option by only giving him a short term deal. Such arrangements seem to be getting more popular these days. I was actually thinking of Newcastle, who I could see panicking with ten games left, appointing Pearson (rightly or wrongly) on the basis that he performed a 'miracle' last year and could do so again, getting relegated but then thinking (rightly or wrongly) that they need a bigger name to manage them even in the championship. Other, smaller clubs would be more likely to keep him on for the chanpionship
foxfanazer Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Absolutely no chance. Swansea think they're a top 8 club, Pearson won't even cross their minds. Pearson has an outside chance of getting a job at whichever club is in dire straights with about ten games left but that would only be on a temporary end of season deal, and that would be a poor panic appointment for whichever club employee him because as we know only too well, the man takes his sweet time getting things right. Other than that he's back in the championship or abroad. Sorry but thats wrong. He imoroved us every season so I'd say he got things right pretty quickly
GaelicFox Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Did you edit that because you counted the lines wrong the first time?
Unabomber Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Did you edit that because you counted the lines wrong the first time?Kind of yeah
Soar Fox Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 I don't understand the hate Nigel Pearson gets from our "fans" people treat and talk about him in the same way as Peter Taylor. The bloke saved this club twice, once when we were at our lowest ebb and then he gave us one of our best ever seasons by running away with the championship. Yes he didn't help himself last season with the way he handled himself in the media but quite frankly I don't care about that. Most of the media in this country deserve to be treated like shite & I'm glad Pearson spoke to them how he did because they deserve it. Pearson has left this club in a much better state than when he took over on both occasions. All the plaudits that our players are getting are the ones that NP signed, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy we signed for a combined £2.2 million now what would it cost a team to sign them £65-70 million? Certainly better than being left Beckford, Danns and Mills like we were under Sven. He might not get another premiership job but I can guarantee when he gets a championship job if given time he will have them in the premiership within 3 years.
foxfanazer Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 I don't understand the hate Nigel Pearson gets from our "fans" people treat and talk about him in the same way as Peter Taylor. The bloke saved this club twice, once when we were at our lowest ebb and then he gave us one of our best ever seasons by running away with the championship. Yes he didn't help himself last season with the way he handled himself in the media but quite frankly I don't care about that. Most of the media in this country deserve to be treated like shite & I'm glad Pearson spoke to them how he did because they deserve it. Pearson has left this club in a much better state than when he took over on both occasions. All the plaudits that our players are getting are the ones that NP signed, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy we signed for a combined £2.2 million now what would it cost a team to sign them £65-70 million? Certainly better than being left Beckford, Danns and Mills like we were under Sven. He might not get another premiership job but I can guarantee when he gets a championship job if given time he will have them in the premiership within 3 years. It's incredible mate. So short sighted to think this is all Ranieri's doing. CR praised the set up when he got here because he recognised the tight team bond and fitness levels. Some people just have their own agendas so decide to ignore the transformation NP created here
Frank to be Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Sorry but thats wrong. He imoroved us every season so I'd say he got things right pretty quickly An improvement every season was great for us but I'm talking about a club deep in the relegation zone with ten games left. The kind of improvement Pearson delivers is too slow for that situation. Plus I find it hard to understand anyone who watched our lamentable first two thirds of last season saying Pearson was a quick learner. A learner, for sure, but he was almost fatally slow at getting the best out of that team.
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