Frank to be Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 It's incredible mate. So short sighted to think this is all Ranieri's doing. CR praised the set up when he got here because he recognised the tight team bond and fitness levels. Some people just have their own agendas so decide to ignore the transformation NP created here Why do you say this nonsense? Everybody recognises that what Pearson did was great for where we were at the time. Many, possibly most fans think Ranieri has rapidly taken us to a level that was beyond Pearson. They both deserve credit. It's that simple.
foxfanazer Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Why do you say this nonsense? Everybody recognises that what Pearson did was great for where we were at the time. Many, possibly most fans think Ranieri has rapidly taken us to a level that was beyond Pearson. They both deserve credit. It's that simple.It really is that simple mate
SemperEadem Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 I don't understand the hate Nigel Pearson gets from our "fans" people treat and talk about him in the same way as Peter Taylor. The bloke saved this club twice, once when we were at our lowest ebb and then he gave us one of our best ever seasons by running away with the championship. Yes he didn't help himself last season with the way he handled himself in the media but quite frankly I don't care about that. Most of the media in this country deserve to be treated like shite & I'm glad Pearson spoke to them how he did because they deserve it. Pearson has left this club in a much better state than when he took over on both occasions. All the plaudits that our players are getting are the ones that NP signed, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy we signed for a combined £2.2 million now what would it cost a team to sign them £65-70 million? Certainly better than being left Beckford, Danns and Mills like we were under Sven. He might not get another premiership job but I can guarantee when he gets a championship job if given time he will have them in the premiership within 3 years. Great post.
Matt Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Sky Sports News have just said they believe Nige has been ruled out of the Reading job because of cost.
Wymsey Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 And perhaps any relationship with their Thai owners wouldn't be as strong as it could've been due to his son's actions in their country.
Fox92 Posted 6 December 2015 Posted 6 December 2015 Sky Sports News have just said they believe Nige has been ruled out of the Reading job because of cost. Not surprised. I recall when Southampton sacked him they brought in a whole new coaching team for the same amount? I swear I didn't dream that.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Pearson to Swansea anyone? 25/1 at some places.
CharlieCharles Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Pearson for me is one of the best managers out there. If you actually consider what he has done, who he has brought in and how he got the team spirit to the stage it is now, its incredible. Don't get me wrong i love Claudio but i dont understand how people can knock someone who has done so much for us.
GaelicFox Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Pearson for me is one of the best managers out there. If you actually consider what he has done, who he has brought in and how he got the team spirit to the stage it is now, its incredible. Don't get me wrong i love Claudio but i dont understand how people can knock someone who has done so much for us. Could be a special one if he wasn't mad ! Not sure many knock Pearson, Many just didn't like him as a person , but respected his achievements He will always be respected and admired in these parts
Wymsey Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Still think he'll want to go to one of the Sheffield clubs in the future. In alI honesty, I don't know what he is waiting for, unless his Gardening Leave thing is hindering back a bit? If I had managerial success like he has, I'd try to return and get hands involved with a decent club quite swiftly.
richardsfoxes Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 His antics have cost him, although he is a great manager and im a big fan for what he did, most of the football teams are owned by foreign investment do they really want someone unprofessional like pearson. Maybe im wrong but to me. Pearson on paper was a much better fit for the likes of Villa, Sunderland, QPR, etc etc but didn't get them, one to a foreign manager with 0 premier league experience, another a up incoming manager who's had 60 games as a manager.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 Maybe he's just enjoying time off? He's been working nonstop since 08'. Probably doesn't want to rush into something like Adams did and end up coaching in ireland in ten years or some shit
Dan Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 I think a lot of Pearson's qualities aren't that obvious to people who don't follow closely. You compare what he took over at Leicester to what he left it with (both times) and it's the sign of a manager who knows what he's doing. Having Ranieri here has definitely exposed Pearson's tactical side a bit, I don't think Pearson's particularly bad but Ranieri's better in that regard by a mile in my eyes. The problem is there just isn't any suitable club. It seems to me like the clubs who want him can't afford him (or the compensation they'd have to pay to us for the staff he wants) and the clubs who can are aiming for better. It's a really strange situation. It isn't because he isn't good enough because I can't think of a manager in the Championship right now that I'd have over him.
Ric Flair Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 I think a lot of Pearson's qualities aren't that obvious to people who don't follow closely. You compare what he took over at Leicester to what he left it with (both times) and it's the sign of a manager who knows what he's doing. Having Ranieri here has definitely exposed Pearson's tactical side a bit, I don't think Pearson's particularly bad but Ranieri's better in that regard by a mile in my eyes. The problem is there just isn't any suitable club. It seems to me like the clubs who want him can't afford him (or the compensation they'd have to pay to us for the staff he wants) and the clubs who can are aiming for better. It's a really strange situation. It isn't because he isn't good enough because I can't think of a manager in the Championship right now that I'd have over him. I totally agree. He's a hard man to like or get excited about unless you scratch the surface and the general public aren't going to do that are they? We know what he's done for us and there's no doubt at championship level he's got to be one of the best around currently.
Captain... Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 I don't understand the hate Nigel Pearson gets from our "fans" people treat and talk about him in the same way as Peter Taylor. The bloke saved this club twice, once when we were at our lowest ebb and then he gave us one of our best ever seasons by running away with the championship. Yes he didn't help himself last season with the way he handled himself in the media but quite frankly I don't care about that. Most of the media in this country deserve to be treated like shite & I'm glad Pearson spoke to them how he did because they deserve it. Pearson has left this club in a much better state than when he took over on both occasions. All the plaudits that our players are getting are the ones that NP signed, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy we signed for a combined £2.2 million now what would it cost a team to sign them £65-70 million? Certainly better than being left Beckford, Danns and Mills like we were under Sven. He might not get another premiership job but I can guarantee when he gets a championship job if given time he will have them in the premiership within 3 years. I don't think it is hate, just realism, as others have said above, his public persona does him no favours. Those that have worked with him closely and are not Lee Hoos, or on the board at Hull, will have a very different opinion of him, especially his coaches and players. I don't think it helps that his departure is surrounded in mystery and on the back of a few bizarre outbursts, it is easy to put 2 and 2 together and think he got sacked for being difficult to work with, add to that the fact that Ranieri has taken his team and put them top of the league, whilst this time last year Pearson was languishing at the bottom, trying in vain to get a diamond to work. It is very easy to come up with a negative opinion of him. I know different, I have followed his career at Leicester very closely and I know how good a manager he is, but I am not in a position to offer him thousands of pounds to manage my team, those that are will be very reluctant to hire a man who could be a PR disaster, clubs can recover from a bad a manager easier than damage to their reputation.
MC Prussian Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 Sorry he put us in that position by only waking up to the best team and best way to deploy that team after 2/3rds of the season was over I'm sorry I'm firmly of the option we Should never have been in that situation Decent championship manager , jut can't handle the stress or the technicality of the premier league Grateful as hell for all he did for us but Jesus can we just move on , Who give a flying fiddler where he goes ! Well, I'd like to see you getting promoted from the Championship with little to no top-flight media experience and how you'd deal with it. Let's not forget that at the start of last season, apart from him, Van Gaal, Alan Irvine, Garry Monk and Sean Dyche, the remaining 15 Premier League clubs were led by managers with at least one full previous PL season in charge. Should've, could've, would've... fact is we pulled off the greatest escape in PL history ever and that under the guidance of a manager who was thoroughly professional on the sportive side, but came up with the odd moment in relation to fans or the media. Which in turn was then blown out of proportion because we all know the media like to get their hands on a "story".
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 Pearson's one of our great managers. He is criminally under appreciated by many City fans, for little reason other than he is intense and speaks his mind. He's also underrated which is shown by how no club has broken their necks to get him in yet
Dan Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 I totally agree. He's a hard man to like or get excited about unless you scratch the surface and the general public aren't going to do that are they? We know what he's done for us and there's no doubt at championship level he's got to be one of the best around currently. People choose not to half the time. I was sceptical about Ranieri because I thought they'd gone and done Sven all over again, but when I looked into what he'd actually done as a manager I thought whilst he isn't up there with the absolute best, he's done enough to be worthy of a fair crack from me and other fans. Someone made a very good point on the radio when we appointed him and it's quite a simple one as well - Ranieri's sides are not poor teams. Greece was the outlier, not the norm. If people scratch the surface with him they'll warm to him. I'm sure of it. As an outsider looking in I thought he did quite a similar job at Hull, it just got cut short before they could really appreciate the benefits. Imagine us sacking him at the end of the 2011/12 season for example.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 Could well be that his off the field incidents have put clubs off. I can't think of any other reason a club in the championship wouldn't have him as first choice. Also there's a big difference between praising Ranieri and criticising Pearson, a lot on here seem try and hide in one or the other but I think anyone with half a brain can see through this thin veil. Pearson was absolutely immense for us in a footballing sense, League 1 to the great escape, some of the best players we've ever had for pittance, anyone at this club who thinks he was anything other than a fantastic manager for us is just someone who doesn't like Nigel Pearson, never has and never will.
Matt Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 Could well be that his off the field incidents have put clubs off. I can't think of any other reason a club in the championship wouldn't have him as first choice. Also there's a big difference between praising Ranieri and criticising Pearson, a lot on here seem try and hide in one or the other but I think anyone with half a brain can see through this thin veil. Pearson was absolutely immense for us in a footballing sense, League 1 to the great escape, some of the best players we've ever had for pittance, anyone at this club who thinks he was anything other than a fantastic manager for us is just someone who doesn't like Nigel Pearson, never has and never will. I think he has been fairly high on lists, but I think Reading claiming cost to be their reason speaks volumes and suggests why other clubs decided to look elsewhere, I mean wasn't he close to take the Fulham job but it fell through late on, possible due to cost. Whether this cost issue is him himself or whether it is prising the backroom staff that are current still here I'm not sure.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 Fair point, hadn't considered that, I suppose he was on a fair wage here and would rightly consider himself worth quite a few quid to any championship side, hopefully it's that rather than taking people from here with him.
ajthefox Posted 10 December 2015 Posted 10 December 2015 In his two spells with us his win percentage is pushing 50. You can say what you want about his relationship with the media and his at times confusing tactics, but that record over the time he was with us speaks for itself.
GaelicFox Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 Well, I'd like to see you getting promoted from the Championship with little to no top-flight media experience and how you'd deal with it. Let's not forget that at the start of last season, apart from him, Van Gaal, Alan Irvine, Garry Monk and Sean Dyche, the remaining 15 Premier League clubs were led by managers with at least one full previous PL season in charge. Should've, could've, would've... fact is we pulled off the greatest escape in PL history ever and that under the guidance of a manager who was thoroughly professional on the sportive side, but came up with the odd moment in relation to fans or the media. Which in turn was then blown out of proportion because we all know the media like to get their hands on a "story". Bright and intelligent Grown man maybe he should have had media Training instead of fighting wolves in the mountains (joke) Anyway feck the media the media wasn't strangling players etc.... And more importantly it wasn't the media strangling the life out of the team with hamstrung tactics ! From sept to March Nigel did created a miracle when he got it right in the end but he is at risk of joins a growing list of fine British/English men who just can't cut it in premier league ! There is a reason why we have so many foreigners managing in this division , it takes the very best to be able to perform at this level. I personally believe he will make the adjustments needed and he will cut it at this level. I enjoyed his persona to a point but as the pressure on him ramped up his nasty hostile bullying was a bit hard to stomach , his appearance on goals on Sunday was a case in point , some light and warm bits but on the whole awkward and oppressive viewing (from behind a cushion most of the time) i liked him he was the right man for the job, he did the job right in the end , and he should Always be respected and thanked for that
GaelicFox Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 In his two spells with us his win percentage is pushing 50. You can say what you want about his relationship with the media and his at times confusing tactics, but that record over the time he was with us speaks for itself. The right man for the job and he did the job well and Should always be thanked and respected for that fantastic achievement.
GaelicFox Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 Fair point, hadn't considered that, I suppose he was on a fair wage here and would rightly consider himself worth quite a few quid to any championship side, hopefully it's that rather than taking people from here with him. David O Leary did the same in his career , made himself too expensive for teams and now he grows figs somewhere in the sun ; add to that he was useless Tony Pulis also makes quite serious pay demands and huge bonus structures , but was always given jobs he wanted after Stoke , because he had a proven trackrecord of success , something Nige is missing at the top level. Championship teams are in no financial position to gamble on Pearson and his likely big wage demands so Nige is likely to have to drop his wage demands and build a pay structure based on success , that will be hard to swallow for a proud man like him !
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