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I always wanted to emigrate to California (relatives in Orange County) or Melbourne (loved it when I was travelling Oz). To be honest though since I moved to Cornwall, I really couldnt imagine living anywhere else.

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I could see myself in Thailand or somewhere similar, nice relaxed culture, nice weather and cheap to live.

Spent a brilliant few years living there but if you've got kids and you want to give them a good education then it ain't cheap! Amazing place though as is most of south east Asia and Asia in general. There's a vibrancy about life there that you just don't get in Europe.

I'll probably head back East once the kids are finished school but really fancy a bit of Central America at some point.

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I always wanted to emigrate to California (relatives in Orange County) or Melbourne (loved it when I was travelling Oz). To be honest though since I moved to Cornwall, I really couldnt imagine living anywhere else.

 

 

 

California is an insanely expensive place to live. Unless you have a job transfer or a great university degree to get you a great job offer, it would be very difficult to start afresh there...

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I've got a good core of friends that I barely need to keep in touch with. They've helped me out, and I'd help them out, no questions asked.

But it is tough starting over in new places.

 

 

I found it extremely difficult at first.

 

 

Without going into details, i was an extremely positive influence in my niece and nephews lives.

 

 

 

But i never realized how much i meant to them, and indeed them to me until the day i left England.

 

 

I also knew know one over here except my wife's family. Now they are the kindest people you will find, but they are ........ also very very American. Now that isn't a bad thing as such, but they spend a crazy amount of time together. all the time. And i just wasn't used to it. And when we bought our first house together my wife was like. " no we can't move there, my family wouldn't approve... or we can't move there as its too far away from my grandparents." and i was like " what the heck?!?!? i just moved thousands of miles away from my family!!. Pretty sure my family didnt approve BUT THEY WERE HAPPY FOR ME".

 

 

 

 

Its still the best decision i ever made, but sometimes the green grass on the other side can get a little muddy and you can hurt your feet on the stones left in it.

 

 

 

 

Thought that last line up myself!

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I've got a good core of friends that I barely need to keep in touch with. They've helped me out, and I'd help them out, no questions asked.

But it is tough starting over in new places.

 

I actually think the best time is the first few months when you arrive in a place, you don't know anybody, you're exploring a new city and learning a new language, you feel very liberated. Although I don't have wife and kids, which I guess makes a difference.

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Its still the best decision i ever made, but sometimes the green grass on the other side can get a little muddy and you can hurt your feet on the stones left in it.

Thought that last line up myself!

Genius!
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I actually think the best time is the first few months when you arrive in a place, you don't know anybody, you're exploring a new city and learning a new language, you feel very liberated. Although I don't have wife and kids, which I guess makes a difference.

Yeah, the first two/three times I moved country I was single. It certainly is harder with a wife and kids, and especially as I don't 'work' in the country, I'm a 'trailing spouse', working from home.
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I've got a good core of friends that I barely need to keep in touch with. They've helped me out, and I'd help them out, no questions asked.

But it is tough starting over in new places.

I don't have any friends, never needed any, hence moving abroad or anywhere is easy for me excpet for my mum, if it wasn't for her, I would be living in Cali or vancouver
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Chose to Travel with work, from young age . M/C builder toolmaker, Gastronomy, then IT network/telecoms specialist.

Had chances to settle perm. In California, Oz, NZ, Mexico, India, Singapur ,Spain.

Love the 4 seasons in Northern Europe.

OZ, n NZ to stay too expensive to travel from.

India, Nepal, Mexico near misses, but down sized wages, would have had great life, but low financial clout to travel.

Just to understand, I have earnt well at start, super renumeration,but later not super high wages.

My girlfriends then my future wife, sometimes dropped out, dropped back in, rode the flotsam to see where it took us.

Even with pre-school children( with my 1 and only loving wife).

When kids came within school age, We pulled out of our adventure trekking and travelling ways, coincidently offered work in France/Holland then Germany and decided to stay ( wife is German, kids half n half).

MY advice..I knew I wanted to travel and/with work (beginning of the 70s, not a student, but college).

I wasnt running or leaving because of dislike for country, I contracted out to British firms first then later European/WW head-hunters.Sometimes specialist, group -project leader, or just one of the workers.

Dont emigrate to run away from problems, you will take them with you.Dont move for a financial dream. The grass is rarely greener.

Knowingly changing life styles, if its your wish , or just to try something different..or for the hell of it ,why not.!!

What ever you do, how it ends up, even if its back to the roots, you havent failed, and youve drank from life's cup of experience.

BUT, DO IT because you want to, not because you are feeling miserable.

One other thing, it improves you, opens a door or 2 to an experience, makes you if your not self-opinionated a better but not necessary wiser person,..BUT never, never better than anyone else.

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Chose to Travel with work, from young age . M/C builder toolmaker, Gastronomy, then IT network/telecoms specialist.

Had chances to settle perm. In California, Oz, NZ, Mexico, India, Singapur ,Spain.

Love the 4 seasons in Northern Europe.

OZ, n NZ to stay too expensive to travel from.

India, Nepal, Mexico near misses, but down sized wages, would have had great life, but low financial clout to travel.

Just to understand, I have earnt well at start, super renumeration,but later not super high wages.

My girlfriends then my future wife, sometimes dropped out, dropped back in, rode the flotsam to see where it took us.

Even with pre-school children( with my 1 and only loving wife).

When kids came within school age, We pulled out of our adventure trekking and travelling ways, coincidently offered work in France/Holland then Germany and decided to stay ( wife is German, kids half n half).

MY advice..I knew I wanted to travel and/with work (beginning of the 70s, not a student, but college).

I wasnt running or leaving because of dislike for country, I contracted out to British firms first then later European/WW head-hunters.Sometimes specialist, group -project leader, or just one of the workers.

Dont emigrate to run away from problems, you will take them with you.Dont move for a financial dream. The grass is rarely greener.

Knowingly changing life styles, if its your wish , or just to try something different..or for the hell of it ,why not.!!

What ever you do, how it ends up, even if its back to the roots, you havent failed, and youve drank from life's cup of experience.

BUT, DO IT because you want to, not because you are feeling miserable.

One other thing, it improves you, opens a door or 2 to an experience, makes you if your not self-opinionated a better but not necessary wiser person,..BUT never, never better than anyone else.

Some good advice from Fuchsht!
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Sweden. No debate. Somehwere near Ystad (south) or a small island on the archipelago, Stockholm. Me, my Abba records, and my memories of the glory days at Filberts Street and the KP. Sweet.

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I've been there a few times and love it, although life could get too slow at some points - I'll settle for a holiday home in the mountains  tbh. Living in Germany at the moment so wont be too much of a shock. 

 

Why do you hate Canada

 

Well I can understand kind of why others would like it (the nature, though I think people underrate England there) but it's just the complete opposite of what I like and has none of what I love about England.

 

I was back in England for most of the past 2 years (back in Canada now because I've started university and I'm counted as an international student in England currently), and I spent most of the time back up York where I lived for like 6 years before moving here and I just love old cities like that, and I love the little villages dotted all over, and how you can drive to hundreds of places around such a small island and see castles and all the amazing buildings etc. I spent most of the 2 years just visiting National Trust properties and gardens and shit which probably sounds boring as **** but I love it. I like how close England is to the rest of Europe and similar cities and such as well. Where I live in Canada at least, there aren't really towns and villages, there are just a variety of clusters of houses spread out wherever around cities filled with generic modernist glass boxes and whose malls seem to be the main feature, not the city centres. If I were to walk to the friend nearest to me it would take about an hour of walking down a single road and I'm not even in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking.

 

Perhaps the rest of Canada is nothing like that but I've been all over BC and it's all the same. I just hate being in the same place for an extended period of time regardless, and given the price of flights to most places (even within Canada), I don't really visit places as often as I'd like to either

 

How's Germany?

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I did it, with Melbourne the city of choice, best decision of my life.

Love the lifestyle, love my sport and it's all year around here starting with The Australian Open, The Grand Prix, AFL and Rugby League, the Spring Racing Carnacal which includes the Melbourne Cup, the Big Bash, Boxing Day test.

Plus all the other not so regular events such as last year we had the Asian Cup and The Cricket World Cup.

The weather is pretty good most of the time, not as hot consistently as the rest of Australia.

An hour from the beach an hour from the bush.

Would encourage anyone to give it a go.

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Well I can understand kind of why others would like it (the nature, though I think people underrate England there) but it's just the complete opposite of what I like and has none of what I love about England.

I was back in England for most of the past 2 years (back in Canada now because I've started university and I'm counted as an international student in England currently), and I spent most of the time back up York where I lived for like 6 years before moving here and I just love old cities like that, and I love the little villages dotted all over, and how you can drive to hundreds of places around such a small island and see castles and all the amazing buildings etc. I spent most of the 2 years just visiting National Trust properties and gardens and shit which probably sounds boring as **** but I love it. I like how close England is to the rest of Europe and similar cities and such as well. Where I live in Canada at least, there aren't really towns and villages, there are just a variety of clusters of houses spread out wherever around cities filled with generic modernist glass boxes and whose malls seem to be the main feature, not the city centres. If I were to walk to the friend nearest to me it would take about an hour of walking down a single road and I'm not even in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking.

Perhaps the rest of Canada is nothing like that but I've been all over BC and it's all the same. I just hate being in the same place for an extended period of time regardless, and given the price of flights to most places (even within Canada), I don't really visit places as often as I'd like to either

How's Germany?

Aw man, now I miss England. I love going to some National trust places haha. I understand what you mean with England. A lot of amazing places to visit in a short distance away. I'm hoping to go on holiday to Canada in the next couple of years.

Germany is pretty nice so far, I'm living in a cool city in Bavaria. Short journey or walk away from nice forests/lakes, feels central to lots of Europe but I really feel like I am missing not having a car, there are places I really want to go to which are too much hassle getting to by trains/buses. Public transport is spot on though it's about £25 for up to 5 people to go anywhere in Bavaria/Northern parts of Austria for a day, cycling here is a dream compared to most English places, cheap nice food, etc. Lots of jobs, especially engineering and a ton of money here, they're building fancy offices and apartments constantly.

But mainly, I moved here because 2 years of a long term relationship and my dead-end job was really shitty, so it is pretty great seeing my gf every day rather than every 3 months.

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but the Germans are lieing fake green immigrant lovers.

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Aw man, now I miss England. I love going to some National trust places haha. I understand what you mean with England. A lot of amazing places to visit in a short distance away. I'm hoping to go on holiday to Canada in the next couple of years.

Germany is pretty nice so far, I'm living in a cool city in Bavaria. Short journey or walk away from nice forests/lakes, feels central to lots of Europe but I really feel like I am missing not having a car, there are places I really want to go to which are too much hassle getting to by trains/buses. Public transport is spot on though it's about £25 for up to 5 people to go anywhere in Bavaria/Northern parts of Austria for a day, cycling here is a dream compared to most English places, cheap nice food, etc. Lots of jobs, especially engineering and a ton of money here, they're building fancy offices and apartments constantly.

But mainly, I moved here because 2 years of a long term relationship and my dead-end job was really shitty, so it is pretty great seeing my gf every day rather than every 3 months.

 

I took a train from Verona to Munich this summer through Austria, it was beautiful. I could definitely live there, in a little mountain cottage with a sexy milk-maid type.

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Germany, Sweden, northern europe - all too cold and dark in the winter

 

South, North and Central America - no good once you become old and have health problems

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I took a train from Verona to Munich this summer through Austria, it was beautiful. I could definitely live there, in a little mountain cottage with a sexy milk-maid type.

Austria is beautiful. I took a train from Munich to Italy and it was awesome. Part of the train line was closed so we had to take a bus through the mountains and villages - so good.

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Austria is beautiful. I took a train from Munich to Italy and it was awesome. Part of the train line was closed so we had to take a bus through the mountains and villages - so good.

 

Lots of places are great when you are passing through them on a holiday.

 

I remember liking Afghanistan on one of my failed attempts to complete the silk road. Beautiful country, nice people, good food. Certainly wouldn't like to live there permanently. Too often we see countries for a short time, at their best time and when we are feeling great but that's not a basis for living there permanently. I'd class Austria as that type of country from my point of view - no disrepect to any Austrians, especially mr.Fuchs, who may be reading this.

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