Player Ratings v Villa

[Wolfox]

Guy did his best Kasper circa 2013 impression with the starfish. Definite penalty and red - that's where the referee got it wrong, not in giving it.

It appears we have a different opinion... Oh well!

Anyway, it's a bit of a moot point, since Mahrez descided to gently waft it back into the keepers greatful arms... Maybe Mahrez felt a bit embarrassed about it being awarded I the first instance?

[Fox92]

Ulloa was fantastic for the foxes last season but this season I feel when he does play he slows down the play, for me when Ulloa comes on I can't see goal coming. The style football we play doesn't suit Ulloa. We could do with a striker with a bit of pace and strength, basically another Vardy.

 

Yeah I agree. Our style doesn't suit Ulloa, he isn't fast enough. That's why I wanted us to go for Austin basically. 

[Rasmic123]

Guy did his best Kasper circa 2013 impression with the starfish. Definite penalty and red - that's where the referee got it wrong, not in giving it.

wasnt a red because there was no intention to deliberately stop a goal, but was definitely a penalty as he stopped the ball going in with his hand. How people can say it isn't a penalty is beyond me, his hands are up and he's stopped a goal, it's stonewall

[foxes161]

Certainly wasn't a game for high ratings.

[Wolfox]

wasnt a red because there was no intention to deliberately stop a goal, but was definitely a penalty as he stopped the ball going in with his hand. How people can say it isn't a penalty is beyond me, his hands are up and he's stopped a goal, it's stonewall

Maybe because he was about 3" away from the shot at the time he hit it?

I guess I'd have felt hard done to, if the boot was on the foot...

These desicions aren't easy.... How do you change the rules so that it doesn't become a matter of opinion is probably the more sensible debate?

[Benguin]

Kasper - 6

Fuchs - 6

Huth- 5

Morgan - 6

Simpson - 6

Albrighton - 6

Kante - 6

Drinkwater - 6

Mahrez - 5

Okazaki - 6

Vardy - 6

Ulloa - 4

Gray - N/A

De Laet - 6

Villa - 4

Us - 5

Ref - 4

Claudio - 5

Claudio stays

[RowlattsFox]

Kasper 7

Simpson 6

Morgan 7

Huth 4

Fuchs 6

Mahrez 4

Drinkwater 7

Kante 7

Albrighton 6

Okazaki 8

Vardy 6

De laet 5

Ulloa 3

[Rasmic123]

Maybe because he was about 3" away from the shot at the time he hit it?

I guess I'd have felt hard done to, if the boot was on the foot...

These desicions aren't easy.... How do you change the rules so that it doesn't become a matter of opinion is probably the more sensible debate?

for me, the deciding factor is that his arms are up. If his arms are down by his side, its not a penalty as the arms would be counted as part of his body and wouldn't be handball. But his arms are out and this gives the referee the discretion to give a penalty.

[bluebeau]

Bearing in mind that this was the worse display of the season, the whole team played below par & in the end were lucky to come away with a

draw against the worst team in the Prem!

Schmeeichel 6.5 Didn't really do anything wrong.

Simpson 6.5 ditto

Morgan 6.5 "

Huth 5.0 Worse game in a City shirt & fortunately the ref was so crap that he missed 2 penalty decisions against Huth.

Fuchs 6.5 Not his best game by a long way.

Mahrez 4.0 TERRIBLE GAME, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH HIM TODAY? I hope someone else takes future penalties.

Kante 6.5 Again, not his best game as he is usually so damned good.

Drinky 7.5 Tried hard but had very little support.

Albrighton 6.5 A player that I like a lot but not at his best in this game.

Vardy 6.0 Not a Vardy game. Apart from lobbing their keeper, what else did he do?

Okazaki 8.0 So infectious & how he has improved WOW! I had great doubts about him early season but now he has to be automatic

selection. MOM in my opinion.

Sub's 5 each apart from De Laet Ulloa & Gray not on long enough, De Laet & Ulloa were incorrect subs imo.

Ref 4 Pathetic & incorrect decisions made for both teams.

Ranieri 6 Probably the worst game he has had as City manager. He brought on De Laet to seal the game at 0 - 1 but it failed.

Took off Okazaki who was the best player on the pitch & probably the only one that could have sealed the win.

Why did he take him off & leave Mahrez on? Was Sinji carrying an injury?

Villa 6 Probably the worse team in the Prem & certain to get the drop, but if anything over 90 minutes they were better than City!

[Wolfox]

for me, the deciding factor is that his arms are up. If his arms are down by his side, its not a penalty as the arms would be counted as part of his body and wouldn't be handball. But his arms are out and this gives the referee the discretion to give a penalty.

I'd be inclined to agree generally, however, it did genuinely appear to be part of his forward motion... Hence I thought it was a little harsh...

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

Kasper 7 - Could do nothing with the deflection. Got an assist of sorts.

Simpson 7 - Solid again. No imagination past the halfway line though.

Morgan 6 - Played pretty well. Unlucky with the deflection. Couldn't handle big Rudy in the air.

Huth 4 - From the backpass onwards he had a shocker. Lucky not to have given away a pen. Should have cleared the ball for their goal.

Fuchs 6 - Decent but not great. Got beaten quite a few times in the second half.

Mahrez 3 - Terrible. Casual pen and generally poor in all aspects of the game. Needs sharpening up.

Drinkwater 7 - Pretty good. Played a few lovely passes but never really won the midfield battle. Should have scored.

Kante 6 - Not as dynamic as previous weeks. Did okay. Another who needs a sharpener.

Albrighton 5 -Hard work but no end product. Seemed to be trying too hard.

Okazaki 8 - Our best player. Held it up well, great reactions for the goal. Needs to cut out the embarrassing diving which is happening on a weekly basis.

Vardy 6 - Off the pace still. Missed a couple of good chances, was unlucky with the rebound.

De Laet 4 - Did nothing. What was the point in bringing him on.

Ulloa 4 - Butchered a few good chances. Gives away too many fouls.

Gray N/A -

Villa 5 - They need to become a longball team, only way they will get points is banging it up to Gestede. Very little technical ability.

Ref 3 - Got alot wrong. Should have sent off Cissoko if he gave the pen as it was going in. Huth should have given away a pen and missed the Gestede handball.

Ranieri 4 - Shocking subs in the 2nd half stifled us. Seems to have turned us into a 1 dimensional team in the last month, where as earlier in the season we had bit more about us.

[Lionheart10]

In the (temporary ?) absence of the FT 'official' stats based player ratings, I thought I'd post a thread up.  I'll kick it off with my thoughts:-

 

Schmeichel - 8

Simpson - 7

Morgan - 7

Huth - 6

Fuchs - 7

Mahrez - 6

Kante - 7

Drinkwater - 8 (MoM)

Albrighton - 7

Vardy - 7

Okazaki - 7

 

Gray - 6

De Laet - 6

Ulloa - 5

If they had scored these figures mate we would have won easy!!!

[Dan]

Schmeichel - Didn't think he was particularly good or bad although his distribution was dodgy again - although our goal actually came from a long goal kick. 6

 

Simpson - Standard Simpson of this season, not really that noticeable which isn't a bad thing for a full back that isn't given the license to get forward. 7

Morgan - Not as great as recent weeks but not too bad either. 7

Huth - Worst game all season. At fault for the goal, fouled Kozak in the box and wasn't punished, and played Kozak in. Disappointing after being the midweek match winner. 4

Fuchs - I thought he was one of our best again. 7

 

Mahrez - Not quite Bournemouth bad, but he's been awful for about a month now. Haven't got a clue what's happened to him. 4

Kante - I didn't think even he looked on it yesterday although he didn't have a particularly bad game. 6

Drinkwater - Mixed bag. This bloke is never going to score in this league is he? It's absolutely frightening that he's yet to score. 6

Albrighton - Hardly noticeable. 5

 

Okazaki - Our best player for the third game running. The day will come where he scores a home goal with no scruffiness about it, but he's starting to look like the Okazaki of the first two games. Seems to have so much more about him from an attacking point of view. Couldn't understand why he was subbed. 8

Vardy - Still not 100% but definitely getting there. He was better than the last few games but there was still something missing. 6

 

 

Subs

De Laet - He didn't do a lot wrong but didn't do a lot right either. Couldn't work out why he came on. 5

Ulloa - Losing patience with him unfortunately. In real danger of becoming another Chris Wood. 3

Gray - Not really on long enough to be worth a rating but contributed more positive than Mahrez did.

 

Referee - Poor and not for any team in-particular. Our penalty is a red card, they should have had a penalty too. 4

 

Villa - Absolutely shite and made to look far better than they are by our sheer negativity. 4

 

Ranieri - His worst day for us yet in my opinion. Bournemouth away I could forgive because it was his fourth game here. He knows this squad now and I don't know why he was so negative. One thing occurred to me earlier... this week our form has actually resembled that of an Italian kind of side. We've scraped a massive three points but we've been found wanting when we should be on the front foot against a diabolical side. We've become that concerned with keeping teams out that we don't look used to being able to attack anymore. We're no longer the entertainers. Too negative and subs truly baffling. Poor show I'm afraid. 4

[Bamba's Babes]

In the (temporary ?) absence of the FT 'official' stats based player ratings, I thought I'd post a thread up.  I'll kick it off with my thoughts:-

 

Schmeichel - 8

Simpson - 7

Morgan - 7

Huth - 6

Fuchs - 7

Mahrez - 6

Kante - 7

Drinkwater - 8 (MoM)

Albrighton - 7

Vardy - 7

Okazaki - 7

 

Gray - 6

De Laet - 6

Ulloa - 5

 

How can anyone of them have deserved a 7 or 8. Moronic scoring.

[weller54]

In the (temporary ?) absence of the FT 'official' stats based player ratings, I thought I'd post a thread up. I'll kick it off with my thoughts:-

Schmeichel - 8

Simpson - 7

Morgan - 7

Huth - 6

Fuchs - 7

Mahrez - 6

Kante - 7

Drinkwater - 8 (MoM)

Albrighton - 7

Vardy - 7

Okazaki - 7

Gray - 6

De Laet - 6

Ulloa - 5

Mahrez 6!!

WTF were you watching??

[Thracian]

It's hard to mark our performances with any enthusiasm. Two points needlessly wasted along with the two against Bournemouth suggests some real problems need sorting fast in terms of both attitude and personnel.

 

Kasper: 6 (Didn't have a lot to do but did have a hand in the goal).

 

Simpson 6 (Not as convincing as usual even defensively)

 

Morgan 6.75 (Simple but vital interception after Huth's horror miskick saved what may well have been a goal)  

 

Huth 4.5 (Aerial dominance spoiled by the miskick that so nearly cost a goal and two clumsy pieces of defending which might both have cost us penalties).    

 

Fuchs 6.5 (Well involved and defensively sound enough but even his distribution became careless. Long floated passes to nowhere in particular were meat and drink to the Villa defenders).

 

Mahrez 3 (Cost us two points to go with the two he cost us against Bournemouth and for the same stupid reasons. Offered sure signs that we're not improving as a team any longer. Contributed very little generally - as has been the case for several games now - suggesting that he's either been sussed, that he's lost focus or that his mind is elsewhere. Either way I'd take £30m in a shot if it were offered).   

Drinkwater 6 (Missed an excellent chance to settle the game from about 10 yards and never seemed to show the determination needed to take it. One decent effort confirmed an improved willingness to shoot but - as usual - without success. Thought his passing was up and down like so many others).

 

Kante 6 (Busy as ever but below his best again. No goals threat that I noticed).

 

Albrighton 6 (Huffed and puffed but didn't really didn't look like blowing the Villa house down. Just not scary enough.)

 

Vardy 6.5 (Looked our brightest hope and made our goal with a deft flick out of nothing. Two or three other opportunities from the crumbs he was fed and one particularly good chance blasted over). 

 

Shinji 6.5 (Another ugly goal but they all count and he at least got himself into the six yard box to make it happen. Otherwise just a typical Shinji day with lots of effort, lots of indifferent ball control but a boundless spirit)

 

Didn't stop to see the subs but for Ranieri it was an awful day,  a game thrown away and, with it, probably any  chance of winning the title.   

[Guest Col city fan]

Mahrez....zero

For one of the worst penalties you'll see. Again.

[AKCJ]

If Mahrez's shot wasn't saved by the defender then he'd get ratings of 7 or 8.

 

He wasn't anywhere near as bad as some idiots are suggesting.

[Guest]

Ranieri 5

 

Kasper 7

Simpson 6

Morgan 6

Huth 5

Fuchs 6

Mahrez 5

Drinkwater 6

Kante 7

Albrighton 7

Okazaki 7

Vardy 6

 

Opposition 6

 

Ref 5

[weller54]

Mahrez....zero

For one of the worst penalties you'll see. Again.

Agree!.. Worse pen you'll ever see AND worst overall performance to go with it.. Disgraceful!!

[The Doctor]

If Mahrez's shot wasn't saved by the defender then he'd get ratings of 7 or 8.

He wasn't anywhere near as bad as some idiots are suggesting.

That's people over rating goalscorers rather than a valid reflection of his performance though - he had a torrid game, nothing came off and he was even worse defensively than normal

[ScouseFox]

That's people over rating goalscorers rather than a valid reflection of his performance though - he had a torrid game, nothing came off and he was even worse defensively than normal

if you re read the match thread a number of posters say how "mahrez is back" or "riyad looks up for this, good to see after the last few games" in the first half an hour.

he was probably a 6/10 for the first half an hour, a 0/10 for the ten seconds from the run up to the penalty miss and then a 4/10 after that. which is probably on par with most the team really.

[Guest ttfn]

if you re read the match thread a number of posters say how "mahrez is back" or "riyad looks up for this, good to see after the last few games" in the first half an hour.

he was probably a 6/10 for the first half an hour, a 0/10 for the ten seconds from the run up to the penalty miss and then a 4/10 after that. which is probably on par with most the team really.

I thought he was verypoor from start to finish. Didn't show for the ball nearly enough until the second half, by which point he'd lost all confidence after his wretched penalty.

One incident in the first half highlighted just how out of form he is. He picked the ball up level with the right edge of the penalty area, 35 yards from goal. Vardy darts between the centre backs and Mahrez spots the chasm between the left back and the left centre back. At this point I'm half expecting a goal - Mahrez' ability to pick out those sorts of angled defence splitting passes is second to none in the league, but his pass was woefully underhit and easily dealt with by the Villa defence.

Part of the problem with judging Mahrez' performances is that he's a better player than anybody else in the team - we expect more from him. He also has a languid playing style which can easily be misconstrued as arrogance or laziness and in games like Saturday few are willing to forgive that.

[ScouseFox]

I thought he was verypoor from start to finish. Didn't show for the ball nearly enough until the second half, by which point he'd lost all confidence after his wretched penalty.

One incident in the first half highlighted just how out of form he is. He picked the ball up level with the right edge of the penalty area, 35 yards from goal. Vardy darts between the centre backs and Mahrez spots the chasm between the left back and the left centre back. At this point I'm half expecting a goal - Mahrez' ability to pick out those sorts of angled defence splitting passes is second to none in the league, but his pass was woefully underhit and easily dealt with by the Villa defence.

Part of the problem with judging Mahrez' performances is that he's a better player than anybody else in the team - we expect more from him. He also has a languid playing style which can easily be misconstrued as arrogance or laziness and in games like Saturday few are willing to forgive that.

 

i agree he wasn't anything like what we've come to expect, but it wasn't the "worst overall performance ever" as stated a few posts up. he was pretty average for half an hour and then like you say his confidence went and the confidence of us as a team went too. it wasn't solely down to his second half performance that the whole team were absolutely pathetic. 

 

i was just agreeing that it is just the penalty miss that is affecting his ratings. if he put in that performance and we drew and we didn't have a penalty he'd be getting 5s from most, if he put in that performance and he'd scored the penalty and won he'd be getting 7 or 8 from most. but because he missed... 0. 

[The Doctor]

if you re read the match thread a number of posters say how "mahrez is back" or "riyad looks up for this, good to see after the last few games" in the first half an hour.

he was probably a 6/10 for the first half an hour, a 0/10 for the ten seconds from the run up to the penalty miss and then a 4/10 after that. which is probably on par with most the team really.

Tffns nailed it - even in that first half hour he looked uncertain, didn't manage to really get into the game. After the penalty miss he just gave up on the match.

If he scores and puts in that performance, yes he'd get a seven, but that's because scoring a goal practically guarantees a seven. More likely he'd get more because villa would have crumbled, but that was the only passage where he really managed to offer an offensive threat.