separator Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 15 dead now being reported at the Metro station, as well as the 13 at the Airport.
Jon the Hat Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 When will Europe listen? Islam is INcompatible with Western civilisation. It's amazing how many terrorist attacks happen on Tuesday mornings - 9/11, 7/7 and this. It's the death cult time of week apparently. Terrorism is incompatible with any civilisation. Many millions of Muslims live peacefully and happily in Western Europe, completely disproving your pathetic attempt at making a point off the back of a horrible tragedy.
Guest MattP Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Know two people from Belgium. One moved here (Canada) three years ago, and talked about Molenbeek and the potential of exactly this thing happening at a party and was called a racist who didn't understand Islam, and the other I'm now talking to two years after that conversation and she's only just got out of a locked down Metro station after panicking for half an hour because others had been bombed Having read a lot about Molenbeek since the arrest of Abdeslam it does seem quite scary that areas like this even exist in places like Belgium, let alone right in the middle of capital cities right near to the supposed epicentre of European democracy. This seemed to happen right under the eyes of everyone and no-one seemed to try and do a single thing about it, very worrying. Everything seems to be reactive rather than pro-active.
lgfualol Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Absolutely horrible. I loved my time in Brussels. Looks like this Molenbeek really needs some special attention, I'm not sure how much it was getting before but a lot of recent attacks seem to have had some connection to the place. It's apparently got a low employment rate and quite poor, so it's probably a breeding ground for these brainwashing psychos that keep doing these attacks.
UPinCarolina Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Just waiting for all of my meme-consuming, Trump supporting, under-educated hometown Facebook friends to start posting stupid shit about it.
leicsmac Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Just waiting for all of my meme-consuming, Trump supporting, under-educated hometown Facebook friends to start posting stupid shit about it. I'm sure it won't be long. The opening salvos have been fired on here already.
lgfualol Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Just waiting for all of my meme-consuming, Trump supporting, under-educated hometown Facebook friends to start posting stupid shit about it. Time to do some friend deleting!
theessexfox Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Just waiting for all of my meme-consuming, Trump supporting, under-educated hometown Facebook friends to start posting stupid shit about it. I've seen someone say it was a conspiracy to gain Trump more support..
Wymsey Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Very sad, but not surprised as threats to the country have been quite recent. Can't stop thinking the UK will be a victim at anytime.
Guest MattP Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 I've seen someone say it was a conspiracy to gain Trump more support.. I've seen someone claim it's "a bit fishy" this has happened on the same day Osbourne has to come back to the HoC and answer for his budget. Although on Twitter it looks hard to see who is more excited, the Trump supporters ready to whip out the "build the wall" memes or the Sanders mob who can't wait to use it to show the World how tolerant they are.
Alf Bentley Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Terrorism is incompatible with any civilisation. Many millions of Muslims live peacefully and happily in Western Europe, completely disproving your pathetic attempt at making a point off the back of a horrible tragedy. Spot on. I don't know anything about Mahrez or Kante's beliefs, but as their families originate from Algeria and Mali (predominantly Muslim countries) I presume they may be Muslims? If so, I'm finding their presence highly compatible with Western civilisation! My daughter's two best friends at the moment happen to be Muslim (insofar as kids can ever be committed to a religion). They seem to mainly spend their time laughing, chatting, watching Youtube and playing computer games, not setting off bombs. The Dad of one works at Leicester Uni, the parents of the other have just opened a cafe in a local park.....all seems compatible with Western civilisation to me. Did IRA activities in the 70s/80s mean that my (Irish, non-IRA-supporting) Dad's presence here was incompatible with British civilisation? When a few little Leicester thugs got into a fight at New Street a couple of months back, did that render LCFC incompatible with civilised football support? Generalised intolerance just causes more polarisation and strife. The intolerance should be reserved for those who participate in or fuel such outrages. Yet another sad day.
Guest MattP Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Spot on. I don't know anything about Mahrez or Kante's beliefs, but as their families originate from Algeria and Mali (predominantly Muslim countries) I presume they may be Muslims? If so, I'm finding their presence highly compatible with Western civilisation! Think Mahrez is but Kante isn't. Although the former is certainly not a practising one judging by his behaviour in Gala Casino I don't know this for certain but someone told me Kante's parents fled Mali.
Dan Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Just waiting for all of my meme-consuming, Trump supporting, under-educated hometown Facebook friends to start posting stupid shit about it. This of course being a bigger issue than what happened. Horrible news but you come to expect it now. Insanity is hard to tackle.
bovril Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 What kind of twisted hatred must exist in a person for them to stand in the middle of a crowd of people that would do them no harm, look them in the eyes and then blow them to pieces. What kind of ****ed up ideology could ever inspire people to celebrate such an attack.
shen Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 When will Europe listen? Islam is INcompatible with Western civilisation. It's amazing how many terrorist attacks happen on Tuesday mornings - 9/11, 7/7 and this. It's the death cult time of week apparently. By that logic terrorist attacks by IRA, ETA, Breivik etc. are proof that Christianity is INcompatible with Western civilisation too. Do not resort to islamophobia, please. Use your brain.
Finnaldo Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Think Mahrez is but Kante isn't. Although the former is certainly not a practising one judging by his behaviour in Gala Casino I don't know this for certain but someone told me Kante's parents fled Mali due to the violence towards them by Muslims, something quite common in the country since the 60's that has seen the percentage of Christians there reduce from around half to a single figure. To be fair Matt, Africa is one of the places where some Christians are still as unjustifiably militant as Islamic Extremists, they've been going at each other's throats before Islamic extremism was a talking point.
leicsmac Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 This of course being a bigger issue than what happened. Horrible news but you come to expect it now. Insanity is hard to tackle. If Trump gets elected thanks to such supporters and carries out his plans for the Middle East, it will be a bigger issue. Totally agree with you about insane fanaticism though. What kind of twisted hatred must exist in a person for them to stand in the middle of a crowd of people that would do them no harm, look them in the eyes and then blow them to pieces. What kind of ****ed up ideology could ever inspire people to celebrate such an attack. The kind borne out by the frankly insane idea that words written by men over a thousand years ago give you the right to kill, maim or otherwise dominate others. I'm trying to think of a more stupid reason to do such things, but quite frankly I'm struggling.
Guest MattP Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 To be fair Matt, Africa is one of the places where some Christians are still as unjustifiably militant as Islamic Extremists, they've been going at each other's throats before Islamic extremism was a talking point. I never argued to the contrary, was just answering Alf's question.
leicsmac Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 To be fair Matt, Africa is one of the places where some Christians are still as unjustifiably militant as Islamic Extremists, they've been going at each other's throats before Islamic extremism was a talking point. This.
Guest MattP Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 This. Aside from the Central African Republic and Joseph Kony in Uganda is that even true though? From what I read in the news I don't think Christian and Islamic terrorism are quite comparible in this day and age in Africa.
leicsmac Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Aside from the Central African Republic and Joseph Kony in Uganda is that even true though? From what I read in the news I don't think Christian and Islamic terrorism are quite comparible in this day and age in Africa. Are the thousands killed by Christian extremists in those two countries not enough then? I would certainly say in terms of killing and general terror they're on a par with the fine representatives of Boko Haram and Al-Shalbaab. Fundamentalism of both kinds is rife in Africa.
Guest MattP Posted 22 March 2016 Posted 22 March 2016 Are the thousands killed by Christian extremists in those two countries not enough then? I would certainly say in terms of killing and general terror they're on a par with the fine representatives of Boko Haram and Al-Shalbaab. From what I've seen and read over the last few years no I can't really compare any Christian extremists with the two groups you mentioned (for a start Boko Harem have killed more than ISIS) - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/boko-haram-isis_us_564cd890e4b00b7997f8c15d- It would be like comparing OJ Simpson to Adolf Hitler. Maybe it's a biased Western media that aren't reporting on the actions of Christian extremists to the same extent.
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