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Posted

Players like Long & Vardy though seem to have longer careers though due to there fitness & the engines on them. Both players have a good 3/4 years left at there best I reckon.

They both rely heavily on pace, at those ages we'll be lucky they are anywhere near as effective in another two years, let alone 4. I'm not averse to it, but only if we get in someone else younger. Okazaki is 30, Ulloa is nearly 30... you'll get to the point where you're replacing your whole forward line in one go if you're not careful.

Posted

Is that 25M Baht? If so, worth a punt. Otherwise, nein danke.

Posted

Seriously?

 

Do you think we would pay £25m for someone who couldn't get in the team ahead of Okazaki and not even guaranteed to be first sub ahead of Ulloa?

 

I did say it was a bit steep if you read my post. Then again. stranger things have happened.

This certainly did.

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I think Long would be a good fit for us, personally, though I don't think he's worth the money Southampton are asking. If we can get the price below £20m, I'd be willing to bite. If Liverpool could spaff £35 million on Carroll, that's a steal for him given the revenue we're now guaranteed.

Posted

Always liked Shane long,felt he was a Pearson type of player when he was here

Most comments seem to be positive about Long so I would like to see how much we could get him for. Put in a low bid and see where it takes us.

Posted

I reckon this could be the summer where players moving between Prem clubs do so for extortionate fees because of the new TV money.

 

Us signing Long (rightly or wrongly) for £25m would be the first deal that people look at and consider outrageously expensive (as people did with the McCormack to Fulham transfer) only for it to soon become the norm because others start moving for similar.

 

A few years ago a Championship club paying £4m for a 30 year old striker with one year left on his deal would have caused great shock. Because of the McCormack deal setting the bar no one blinked an eye lid when Boro paid us that for Nugent and only played him in half of their games.

Posted

25m!!!

They paid 7 only 2 years ago. F that especially for 7 goals a season.

This logic dictates vardy is worth 75m

 

Southampton paid between £12-£15 million a few years ago, Long has since improved.

 

Is £25M a lot for someone who will suit us down to the ground compared to someone for £18M who we only have YouTube clips of and might not adapt to the league?

Posted

He's considerably better than Okazaki and would fit into our system well.

 

As everybody agrees though, he's never worth that. I'd go up to about £12,000,000 - £15,000,000 tops.

Posted

I didn't realise he was that old.  He's still got his speed but like others have said we can't have two 29/30 year old strikers when Vardy does everything he can and more a lot better.  Checking his stats they aren't that great for the supposed fee.  This season is the only time he has scored over 10 goals.

This is a win/win for Soton, if he goes they will have gotten a huge fee and he stays they have a back up striker.

 

Leo's stats on Transfer Markt are pretty good compared to Long's, seeing as Long started a lot more matches and played over twice as many minutes as Leo.  His hold up play improved across the season, I just hope we can work on stopping Shinji falling over all the time.

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leonardo-ulloa/profil/spieler/54890

Posted

Long is exactly the sort of signing I would make, he has shown he is very good at this level and doesn't have an ego or attitude problem he is fast, hard working and knows his game, he can play the number 10 role but I would bring him in to rotate with Vardy during a long hard season. Vardy can't play every game and we need someone who can do what Vardy does so we don't have to change our style of play when Vardy is unavailable, he can also play with Vardy but I would generally set up with one or the other unless we need a goal and then throw them both up top.

 

I also see him as someone who would fit in with the group personality wise and wouldn't need any time to adjust.

Posted

For those concerned about his age: 

Our window of sustained success with the current core is about 2-3 seasons, including 2016-2017. Shane Long would fit that window at his current age. 

That's also 6 transfer periods that we could use to acquire young talent. 

It's not perfect business, but it's not the folly it might seem to be. 

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Would be an awesome signing, the man has a proper eye for goal. Dunno about the price they're asking, mind you - there's no guarantee he'd get straight into our squad. Think he'd be fighting with Ulloa to be third choice. We absolutely need one more striker though - sorry to say but I'd say the odds of Kramaric coming back and getting into the side are about 5000-1.

 

You think we'll spend 25million on someone fighting to be on the bench?!

Posted

He's considerably better than Okazaki and would fit into our system well.

 

As everybody agrees though, he's never worth that. I'd go up to about £12,000,000 - £15,000,000 tops.

 

Over time, as tv money has increased so has the fee required to sign a player, so we can only really judge his value by other signings in this window that other teams make...

Posted

You think we'll spend 25million on someone fighting to be on the bench?!

 

I trust Ranieri not to let anybody walk into the squad just because they were signed under his tenure. See Inler, Gray and Amartey.

Posted

Long is exactly the sort of signing I would make, he has shown he is very good at this level and doesn't have an ego or attitude problem he is fast, hard working and knows his game, he can play the number 10 role but I would bring him in to rotate with Vardy during a long hard season. Vardy can't play every game and we need someone who can do what Vardy does so we don't have to change our style of play when Vardy is unavailable, he can also play with Vardy but I would generally set up with one or the other unless we need a goal and then throw them both up top.

 

I also see him as someone who would fit in with the group personality wise and wouldn't need any time to adjust.

He sounds more like a Shingi cover/replacement from this Southampton blog

 

 

Liverpool and Leicester City are reported as being about to lock horns as they battle to sign Saints player of the season Shane Long, but are they having a laugh !

 

Ironically when Shane Long joined Saints from Hull City two years ago many Saints supporters were expressing exactly the same view £12 million for Shane Long, you are having a laugh !

I was not one of them, at the time I pointed out that the going rate for a striker who would get you around 10 goals in the Premier League would cost you that amount, after all Lukaku who had scored 15 goals in the previous season had gone to Everton for £28 million.

 

We soon found out though that Long's game was about more than just his strike rate, he brought something else to the squad, a work rate that was second to none and an ability to close down defenders and create openings for others.

Often though that would initially go unoticed by some Saints fans, what Long did was not just about delivering the ball for an assist, but in winning the ball or pressurising the opposition that would lead to a goal 3 or 4 passes up the line.

Ironically perhaps Long's finest game for the club is one that is remembered most for Sadio Mane scoring the fastest ever Premier League hat trick against Aston Villa in 2014/15, Mane took all the plaudits but it was Long at the heart of the moves that created the goals for the Senegalese striker, including one where Long tackled the keeper to leave the ball set up for Mane.

People also forget he scored twice in that game as well including the goal of the game from 40 yards out.

So when it is rumoured in the press that Liverpool or Leicester are about to make a £11 million bid for Long's services, either the reports are total tosh or the hack who has written it has not done his homework.

In short if Shane Long was worth £12 million two years ago before he had really came into his own, then his value has certainly not dropped in that period, one that he is in the form of his life.

So the Reds and the Foxes need to have a rethink if they want to prise Shane Long from St Mary's, with two years on his contract Saints are under no pressure to sell, after his form last season it will take a bid approaching £20 million to make Saints sit up and listen to offers.

Every player has his price, but Shane Long's to Southampton Football Club is not a paltry £11 million, less than what we paid.

Posted

same age as vardy but apparently no one will bother signing vardy as his age wouldnt represent value for money.

 

imagine selling kante for 20million and signing long for 25 :cry:

Posted

He sounds more like a Shingi cover/replacement from this Southampton blog

 

 

Liverpool and Leicester City are reported as being about to lock horns as they battle to sign Saints player of the season Shane Long, but are they having a laugh !

 

Ironically when Shane Long joined Saints from Hull City two years ago many Saints supporters were expressing exactly the same view £12 million for Shane Long, you are having a laugh !

I was not one of them, at the time I pointed out that the going rate for a striker who would get you around 10 goals in the Premier League would cost you that amount, after all Lukaku who had scored 15 goals in the previous season had gone to Everton for £28 million.

 

We soon found out though that Long's game was about more than just his strike rate, he brought something else to the squad, a work rate that was second to none and an ability to close down defenders and create openings for others.

Often though that would initially go unoticed by some Saints fans, what Long did was not just about delivering the ball for an assist, but in winning the ball or pressurising the opposition that would lead to a goal 3 or 4 passes up the line.

Ironically perhaps Long's finest game for the club is one that is remembered most for Sadio Mane scoring the fastest ever Premier League hat trick against Aston Villa in 2014/15, Mane took all the plaudits but it was Long at the heart of the moves that created the goals for the Senegalese striker, including one where Long tackled the keeper to leave the ball set up for Mane.

People also forget he scored twice in that game as well including the goal of the game from 40 yards out.

So when it is rumoured in the press that Liverpool or Leicester are about to make a £11 million bid for Long's services, either the reports are total tosh or the hack who has written it has not done his homework.

In short if Shane Long was worth £12 million two years ago before he had really came into his own, then his value has certainly not dropped in that period, one that he is in the form of his life.

So the Reds and the Foxes need to have a rethink if they want to prise Shane Long from St Mary's, with two years on his contract Saints are under no pressure to sell, after his form last season it will take a bid approaching £20 million to make Saints sit up and listen to offers.

Every player has his price, but Shane Long's to Southampton Football Club is not a paltry £11 million, less than what we paid.

 

He could well be cover/replacement for both, Long up top with Shinji behind, Vardy with Long behind or Vardy with Shinji behind. The bit in bold could be talking about Vardy  or Shinji, the key to this deal will be if Long wants to come here, if he does it will happen, if he doesn't then it could be a long protracted negotiation with Southampton pushing the price up and in the end he doesn't want to leave.

Posted

He could well be cover/replacement for both, Long up top with Shinji behind, Vardy with Long behind or Vardy with Shinji behind. The bit in bold could be talking about Vardy  or Shinji, the key to this deal will be if Long wants to come here, if he does it will happen, if he doesn't then it could be a long protracted negotiation with Southampton pushing the price up and in the end he doesn't want to leave.

Didn't he once say he wouldn't come to us or am I thinking of some other forward.

 

According to reports we were after him as far back as Sven

 

 

Sven Goran Eriksson fears Shane Long snub http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3731918/Leicester-boss-Sven-Goran-Eriksson-fears-Shane-Long-snub.html
Posted

I don't care if the money's going up in this league I cannot get on board with £25mil for a 29 year old Shane Long. Good player but I want absolutely top drawer for that.

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