shen Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 He's been a level above most of our team which means we must treat him like some god-like figure, even neglecting title winning players just to shoehorn him out of position. This tournament was absolutely peak England at their worst. Everything about it an absolute joke from the squad selection to the scarcely believable lack of imagination displayed throughout pretty much every game. Has he now? What's even more strange, it isn't just in England this is perpetuated. I was watching Danish coverage of the game yesterday. On the panel were Mads Junker, a B-list footballer who had one great season for Roda (but tbf shows knowledge which is slightly more than superficial); a token female footballer; Mikkel Bischoff, a big prospect who had an unremarkable career at remarkable clubs; Jon Dahl Tomasson, former Danish captain, joint-record top scorer and current assistant manager of the national team; Our very own Kasper Schmeichel and finally Peter Møller, another journeyman with mediocre success as the host. Peter Møller asked prior to the game if Rooney was past his sell by date, to which all of them answered stuff like "write him off at your peril", "he's clearly a class footballer", "he has been the main goalscoring hope for England for the past decade, but will have to adapt to the creating role now" and "he's been written off many times and come back". Kasper, in particular, was defending him, which is odd given Rooney's poor season for United and given how sensible he is otherwise. It's like everyone is blinkered and doesn't want to admit that this hyped player does not deserve the inflated reputation he has, nor do they want to acknowledge that he doesn't have what it takes at this level anymore.
shen Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Totally agree. I love watching Ozil and Sanchez, top players, but they're players that were sold by Barca and Madrid. To be honest, Sanchez has now guided his country to two successive Copa America titles beating Messi and his more illustrious teammates both times. It's not like players leaving Barca or Real are necessarily failed or inferior players. Their transfers are highly influenced by politics and corruption and there are many cases of players having more success since they moved on. They are not the be all and end all of club football.
Tuna Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Any reports come through of yobbos smashing up Iceland stores yet?
purpleronnie Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 The reality is the best players at Tottenham aren't English. Simple. This is true, when you have the worlds best around you it will create more chances for you, reduce the pressure, reduce the errors etc...Bottom line is we have a decent squad but that's it. You'd think our constant failings would make people realise this but it seems no matter how bad we are we expect great things. I'm sure when we appoint a new manager people will think it will all change
Dan Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Has he now? What's even more strange, it isn't just in England this is perpetuated. I was watching Danish coverage of the game yesterday. On the panel were Mads Junker, a B-list footballer who had one great season for Roda (but tbf shows knowledge which is slightly more than superficial); a token female footballer; Mikkel Bischoff, a big prospect who had an unremarkable career at remarkable clubs; Jon Dahl Tomasson, former Danish captain, joint-record top scorer and current assistant manager of the national team; Our very own Kasper Schmeichel and finally Peter Møller, another journeyman with mediocre success as the host. Peter Møller asked prior to the game if Rooney was past his sell by date, to which all of them answered stuff like "write him off at your peril", "he's clearly a class footballer", "he has been the main goalscoring hope for England for the past decade, but will have to adapt to the creating role now" and "he's been written off many times and come back". Kasper, in particular, was defending him, which is odd given Rooney's poor season for United and given how sensible he is otherwise. It's like everyone is blinkered and doesn't want to admit that this hyped player does not deserve the inflated reputation he has, nor do they want to acknowledge that he doesn't have what it takes at this level anymore. At club level, he's had the best career of this current squad by a mile, so I'm not going to doubt that he did have it. But I do agree with you. There comes a time when you move on, and we seem so reluctant to, and almost scared of doing so, because he is seen as the only real 'profile' player that we have. He's the only one left from the 'golden generation' which as laughable as it may seem in hindsight, does seem to play on peoples minds when it shouldn't. I just knew Hodgson was going to cave in. He's been shoehorned into this team for long enough but he's taken it to a new level this time around - quite literally neglecting players in form so he could throw Rooney into a new position where he was 'OK'. People who think Rooney played well this tournament because he sprayed the odd pass don't understand the midfield role. When the going got tough, he didn't deliver, yet again. We have got to stop guaranteeing players places. You can bet Kane and Alli will be straight in for the qualifiers regardless of their appalling tournaments yet if less reputable players had turned in displays anywhere near as awful as those two we'd consider it a joke that they were ever called up again. It's counter productive to absolutely everyone to make players untouchable. It gives those no-one anything to fight for. The squad should always be open to rotation and ours simply isn't.
ScouseFox Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 every part of me wants that harry kane comment to be true
m4DD0gg Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 every part of me wants that harry kane comment to be true haha brilliant
Jattdogg Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Love how the guardianz front page cover on our exit has a pic of vardy and the humiliation word. Being picky yes but annoyed me. Wheres kanes coont face? http://www.thescore.com/news/1051145 Apologies if this was posted anywhere
AKCJ Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 https://mobile.twitter.com/LinoTreize/status/747790389898321920 Gahahahaha
Fox92 Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 To be honest, Sanchez has now guided his country to two successive Copa America titles beating Messi and his more illustrious teammates both times. It's not like players leaving Barca or Real are necessarily failed or inferior players. Their transfers are highly influenced by politics and corruption and there are many cases of players having more success since they moved on. They are not the be all and end all of club football. Oh yeah totally agree... What I meant is, look at players like Sanchez and Ozil and how good they are in this Country, among the best in the PL, but they were sold by Barca and Madrid. It's amazing to think.
AKCJ Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 Is it too late to abort him? Looking at him, I think his parents tried.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 Looking at him, I think his parents tried.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3664947/No-wonder-losers-England-s-flops-slink-home-Rooney-distracted-dodgy-hair-lucrative-ad-deals-pouting-WAGS.html fantastic article from the mail
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 Is it too late to abort him? That last free kick!
Dan Posted 29 June 2016 Posted 29 June 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3664947/No-wonder-losers-England-s-flops-slink-home-Rooney-distracted-dodgy-hair-lucrative-ad-deals-pouting-WAGS.html fantastic article from the mail Cringeworthy article.
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