Parafox Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 I'm thinking of buying a 2010 Mercedes 2.2 CDI estate. I was wondering if anyone has owned or does own one and what they are like in terms of running and maintenance costs. How much areservicing costs, What about reliability? I currently have a bog standard Mondeo which is relatively cheap to maintain and I don't want to take a big leap in costs but if the Merc is hands down a better car I would consider it. Thanks
Bellend Sebastian Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 All I know is that my mate had one and had it serviced regularly at a Merc dealer and it cost a bloody fortune. I assumed at the time it was because it was a franchised dealer, but when he started going to an independent it wasn't much better. He was doing quite high mileages but it was £6-700 every time it went in. When you live in Ford/Vauxhall world, like I do for the most part, you do get spoilt by the low running costs. My current Mazda is a bit more expensive but not much more. One of the guys at my work recently ended his long standing relationship with Audi because he just got fed up with them taking eye-watering amounts of money off him
fuchsntf Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 Be prepared for high maintenance costs.For every small check or exchange. Just some experiences or thoughts to help you... Are they worth it..?? Depends on your finances, if you are fortunate to get one that gives you 5-8 yrs, normal running costs.Well worth it. I have been lucky with cars and camping cars.Even being in Germany I never invested in a German car.I have always bought 2nd hand. Renault scenic, and now Capture, never a major issue or even a small one. Even when on his last legs, the onboard computer in the Scenic just went dada. The choice was given replacement new, or 2nd exchange, or repair. The check to see if repair was possible was free.The Renault partner, had an exchange available. New 1200 euro, exchange 350 euro.If it had been any Mercedes those costs would of at least been times 4, with no freeby check.In fact 2 neighbours had simular problems, they only had the choice of new replacement. Costing ca 4200 min. Depends on your finances..SUVs or larger limousines can be great, but simple running costs like sparkplugs and maintenance of, plus winter summer tyre/wheel exchange are damn expensive.To afford something, means exactly that.!!! can I afford the complete upgrade, with no struggles in running or maintenance suprises. FGS, even for the normal avg car, many of us Struggle...and I am an ex IT network specialist. I wanted a BMW X3, or thought of the delux opel Mochha. Winter/summer running costs were too expensive.
Christoph Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 46 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: All I know is that my mate had one and had it serviced regularly at a Merc dealer and it cost a bloody fortune. I assumed at the time it was because it was a franchised dealer, but when he started going to an independent it wasn't much better. He was doing quite high mileages but it was £6-700 every time it went in. That is mental. I assumed most services didn't go over 200 lol.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 9 minutes ago, Christoph said: That is mental. I assumed most services didn't go over 200 lol. Yeah, bit of an eye-opener. It was a while ago and it was quite an old diesel engine, and I expect the service intervals are significantly longer now - you don't have to go back too many years and some manufacturers were recommending diesels be serviced every 6000 miles. A lot of it boils down to the hourly rate the dealers charge - the more 'prestige' the brand, the higher it is as a general rule
Thracian Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 2 hours ago, Parafox said: I'm thinking of buying a 2010 Mercedes 2.2 CDI estate. I was wondering if anyone has owned or does own one and what they are like in terms of running and maintenance costs. How much areservicing costs, What about reliability? I currently have a bog standard Mondeo which is relatively cheap to maintain and I don't want to take a big leap in costs but if the Merc is hands down a better car I would consider it. Thanks Haha I thought you meant a paper. I was going to say do it, be wild!
Jon the Hat Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 You really need to find a decent indy service centre, even then they are quite expensive. Be prepared. Also why a Merc? BMW and Audi are much nicer looking I think.
Parafox Posted 26 July 2016 Author Posted 26 July 2016 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: You really need to find a decent indy service centre, even then they are quite expensive. Be prepared. Also why a Merc? BMW and Audi are much nicer looking I think. Reasonably priced at £6995 with 110000 on the clock. Book price of avg mileage is nearly £9000, drives well has FSH previously lease car so all running repairs/servicing/MOT done in a timely manner. They will do a px deal at £5200.
danny. Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 Considered a new car on PCP? Can work out cheaper sometimes!
Rob1742 Posted 27 July 2016 Posted 27 July 2016 I had one a few years ago for about a year. C class. They are have great interiors and improved greatly over the years. Rear wheel drive was a problem for me, following spending years driving an Audi. When you went around roundabouts you felt it go on greasy roads. They aren't for me based on the two wheel drive, but if that isn't a problem to you, then they are okay.
kingcarr21 Posted 27 July 2016 Posted 27 July 2016 People might remember last year my mums merc caught fire spontaneously. Luckily no1 was in the car when it decided to catch fire. Saying that though she got a new merc and seems to be ok but part of me still just sits there waiting for it to combust when it decides it's had enough
Smudge Posted 27 July 2016 Posted 27 July 2016 On July 26, 2016 at 11:18, Parafox said: Reasonably priced at £6995 with 110000 on the clock. Book price of avg mileage is nearly £9000, drives well has FSH previously lease car so all running repairs/servicing/MOT done in a timely manner. They will do a px deal at £5200. At 110000 it will need a timing chain/belt change. Make sure this has been done otherwise you will have an enormous bill right off the bat.
Soar Fox Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 8 hours ago, Smudge said: At 110000 it will need a timing chain/belt change. Make sure this has been done otherwise you will have an enormous bill right off the bat. I didn't think a timing chain needed changing if it had been oil changed when scheduled?
Parafox Posted 28 July 2016 Author Posted 28 July 2016 15 hours ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said: My advice; don't! Why?
Smudge Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 10 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: I didn't think a timing chain needed changing if it had been oil changed when scheduled? All cars, in my experience, schedule a timing chain/belt change at some point in the engines life. My Honda has 85k on it and is due for a change soon but before 110,000 or 7 years. The quote to do it is about $1200. It's quite a big job since it involves taking off a lot of stuff before you can get at it as it is a transverse engine. The Mercedes should be more straightforward but its a 'Mercede$$$'. Changing the oil is just another part of the maintenance it doesn't alleviate the need for this job. If the chain breaks the timing of the crank shaft, pistons, valves and pushrods will all be out of sink resulting in a probable catastrophic failure. The only recourse to that is a new engine. Even if the chain stretches, it might have an effect on the smooth running of the engine. It may have been done, so make sure you verify that with the owner but ask for the records to make sure it was completed by a reputable mechanic. I may be wrong over this engine but I thought I'd alert you to the possibility of an expensive maintenance item. Call the local Merc service department and ask them what to expect.
Guest Posted 29 July 2016 Posted 29 July 2016 I usually let the chauffeur decide. It's my way of keeping it real with the proletariat.
Crinklyfox Posted 29 July 2016 Posted 29 July 2016 Many years ago I wanted to get a Merc. I'd had Fords and Vauxhalls and had the idea that a Merc was a class above. I don't like taking out loans so I saved my pennies for years until I could afford a used low-end Merc and made my way to my local dealership. I was 'greeted' by one of the Sales staff who looked at me as if I was something nasty he'd found on his shoe then chose to ignore me - I was fuming. I obviously didn't fit his perception of a Merc owner. So I decided there and then that no Merc dealer was going to make any commission out of a sale to me and left. I haven't considered a Merc since as I would like a local dealership that treats me as a valued customer rather than someone not deemed worthy of driving their cars. Your local dealership may not suffer this attitude but its worth bearing in mind.
Parafox Posted 29 July 2016 Author Posted 29 July 2016 1 hour ago, Crinklyfox said: Many years ago I wanted to get a Merc. I'd had Fords and Vauxhalls and had the idea that a Merc was a class above. I don't like taking out loans so I saved my pennies for years until I could afford a used low-end Merc and made my way to my local dealership. I was 'greeted' by one of the Sales staff who looked at me as if I was something nasty he'd found on his shoe then chose to ignore me - I was fuming. I obviously didn't fit his perception of a Merc owner. So I decided there and then that no Merc dealer was going to make any commission out of a sale to me and left. I haven't considered a Merc since as I would like a local dealership that treats me as a valued customer rather than someone not deemed worthy of driving their cars. Your local dealership may not suffer this attitude but its worth bearing in mind. It's a good point, but to be fair the sales guy I have been dealing with was very good. I was able to book a 1 hr test drive and go through the history of the car. There was no real pressure to decide to buy. It has been regularly serviced and has had pre-delivery checks at the garage where it is for sale. It's not a Mercedes dealership. I can't verify with certainty the timing chain has been changed so that's a risk but it was a lease car for a fairly large company and that is reassuring that things that needed doing have (probably) been done. The seller is a main dealer for another high end make of car and have been in this town for at least 25 years and has a good rep. Like buying any used car, it's a leap of faith but I think I'm going to take it. Fingers crossed. Many thanks for your advice FT members.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 29 July 2016 Posted 29 July 2016 It's a leap of faith whatever car you buy, from whatever source. Have you been on www.honestjohn.co.uk to see what problems crop up on that type of car? There'll always be some, but it's a good way of finding out if a particular model is prone to catastrophic failures - always good to know about, if like me, for most of the time you're going to own the car there'll be no warranty on it
The Guvnor Posted 29 July 2016 Posted 29 July 2016 On 7/26/2016 at 11:45, Parafox said: I'm thinking of buying a 2010 Mercedes 2.2 CDI estate. I was wondering if anyone has owned or does own one and what they are like in terms of running and maintenance costs. How much areservicing costs, What about reliability? I currently have a bog standard Mondeo which is relatively cheap to maintain and I don't want to take a big leap in costs but if the Merc is hands down a better car I would consider it. Thanks http://www.whatcar.com/mercedes-benz/c-class/estate/used-review/
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