Time to let go...Kante

[GloverFox]

..... Who .... ?

 

but seriously, give the lad a break ... He assisted in producing one of the greatest seasons and 'fairy-tale' endings ever seen in English football and as such is to be admired and not ridiculed or abused ... Respect is due!

[The whole world smiles]

On 28/08/2016 at 00:09, Dames said:

 

[chapero82]

13 hours ago, GloverFox said:

..... Who .... ?

 

but seriously, give the lad a break ... He assisted in producing one of the greatest seasons and 'fairy-tale' endings ever seen in English football and as such is to be admired and not ridiculed or abused ... Respect is due!

He did a great job for us yes, but he lost my respect when he moved to Chelsea

[zealot]

21 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

He did a great job for us yes, but he lost my respect when he moved to Chelsea

Let it go - you child!!! 

 

He's a Leicester hero and always will be. I'll always have an enormous amount of respect for him.

Close this tedious hate-filled thread.

[Guest Col city fan]

2 hours ago, zealot said:

Let it go - you child!!! 

 

He's a Leicester hero and always will be. I'll always have an enormous amount of respect for him.

Close this tedious hate-filled thread.

Amen to that!

[norwichfox]

I'm trying so hard to let go....and then I keep seeing this fcuking thread.....

[Manwell Pablo]

Some one please explain this "anyone but Chelsea" attitude I really do not get it.

 

The fact it was Chelsea made us about 8 Million more than we would have otherwise.

[HankMarvin]

8 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Some one please explain this "anyone but Chelsea" attitude I really do not get it.

 

The fact it was Chelsea made us about 8 Million more than we would have otherwise.

Why did it make us 8 million more? I thought it was the Sven bid that upped the release, so   any club would've had to match that?

[Manwell Pablo]

Just now, HankMarvin said:

Why did it make us 8 million more? I thought it was the Sven bid that upped the release, so   any club would've had to match that?

 

Didn't the release clause only apply to teams in the CL hence Chelseas could not activate it?

[HankMarvin]

1 minute ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Didn't the release clause only apply to teams in the CL hence Chelseas could not activate it?

Not sure tbh

[Captain...]

10 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Some one please explain this "anyone but Chelsea" attitude I really do not get it.

 

The fact it was Chelsea made us about 8 Million more than we would have otherwise.

The extra 8 million is irrelevant, if he wants to go then him going for £30m, £20m, £50m has nothing to do with him because it is out of his hands.

 

The reason why people are so pissed of it's Chelsea is because they were a mid table side last season, their players drove out the most successful manager in their history, and even after that they were performing well below standard.  Conte has made a good start, but there is no indication it will last and that he will deliver the success that Chelsea wants.

 

Chelsea could offer two things this season and that is more money and relocating to London. Kante could very easily live in London and commute to Leicester. So it comes down to money.

 

Their dressing room is toxic, ours is the best in the country, our facilities are second to none and we have just won the league and qualified as top seeds for the Champions League giving us an amazing opportunity to progress from the groups. While Kante will be running around mopping after Old Man Terry and bombscare Luiz whilst Costa bullies his way to another goal and Fabregas and Pedro live off former glories, fannying about up the pitch while  Kante does all the graft. It will be interesting to see if his performance levels drop when he realises the rest of the side aren't putting in the same effort. 

 

[Manwell Pablo]

Just now, Captain... said:

The extra 8 million is irrelevant, if he wants to go then him going for £30m, £20m, £50m has nothing to do with him because it is out of his hands.

 

The reason why people are so pissed of it's Chelsea is because they were a mid table side last season, their players drove out the most successful manager in their history, and even after that they were performing well below standard.  Conte has made a good start, but there is no indication it will last and that he will deliver the success that Chelsea wants.

 

Chelsea could offer two things this season and that is more money and relocating to London. Kante could very easily live in London and commute to Leicester. So it comes down to money.

 

Their dressing room is toxic, ours is the best in the country, our facilities are second to none and we have just won the league and qualified as top seeds for the Champions League giving us an amazing opportunity to progress from the groups. While Kante will be running around mopping after Old Man Terry and bombscare Luiz whilst Costa bullies his way to another goal and Fabregas and Pedro live off former glories, fannying about up the pitch while  Kante does all the graft. It will be interesting to see if his performance levels drop when he realises the rest of the side aren't putting in the same effort. 

 

 

How is it irrelevant? So your saying if he had held out for a move elsewhere and gone to Juventus and cost us 8 million in the process then that's fine by you? I realize it may have nothing to do with the personal reasons of why he moved down there but I am somewhat confused why people would be happy with a transfer fee 8 million lighter just because they can understand the players reasons for moving better?? Surely we should be solely focused and getting as much money as possible if he is determined to move on, which he always was. 

 

As I've stated to everyone who uses this argument if you think we are going to consistently outperform Chelsea (and Kante knows this) you are in for a very, very big shock. I'd say there is every indication Conte will deliver success at Chelsea so far, they look good. They've made a pretty amazing start given the picture you are painting. 

[CosbehFox]

On 30/08/2016 at 21:18, Dr The Singh said:

The only thing that pisses me off is the fact that players prices have skyrocketed and we sell him on the cheap!!!

The release clause lowered the price. 

 

Kante is a freak. I don't think we will ever see him play as well he did for us however. That's not bitterness either. In his career now, managers are going to ask him to sit in front of the defence and clear up in that area. Where he was so good for Leicester was this amazing ability to win the ball and then drive forward twenty/thirty yards. So good at making defence to attack. I don't think he will ever get to show that ability again as manager warn him not to lose position. 

 

Personally, I'm convinced Chelsea we will the league. Fabregas will become like Drinkwater last season where he can attempt a pass safe in the knowledge, his partner will win it back. Kante I suspect will be 2 or 3 years at tops with Chelsea before moving onto an European club. 

 

I think for career development, his choice was naive. He could been at a European superpower two season earlier if he hung around with us. The lad had nothing which drew him to staying here. I suspect the Chelsea deal has seen him reward his nine siblings with a decent house back in France etc. 

[Captain...]

2 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

How is it irrelevant? So your saying if he had held out for a move elsewhere and gone to Juventus and cost us 8 million in the process then that's fine by you? I realize it may have nothing to do with the personal reasons of why he moved down there but I am somewhat confused why people would be happy with a transfer fee 8 million lighter just because they can understand the players reasons for moving better?? Surely we should be solely focused and getting as much money as possible if he is determined to move on, which he always was. 

 

As I've stated to everyone who uses this argument if you think we are going to consistently outperform Chelsea (and Kante knows this) you are in for a very, very big shock. I'd say there is every indication Conte will deliver success at Chelsea so far, they look good. They've made a pretty amazing start given the picture you are painting. 

Of course Chelsea will offer a greater chance of long term success, but there is no guarantee of long term success, no guarantee that Conte will stick around seeing as he was so important to Kante going to Chelsea. In the last 10 years Chelsea have made 10 managerial changes, Conte just the 7. Long term Chelsea could and probably will offer more, but this season Leicester offer more and all I wanted was one more season from NG, or even just until January.  

 

As for Chelsea's amazing start,  they've played Burnley and Watford and West Ham at Stamford Bridge hardly the toughest opening fixtures and they have needed last minute goals to win 2 of those games and should have had Costa sent off in 2 of those games. 

 

The £8million is irrelevant, Kante didn't go to Chelsea over Real Madrid to make us a bit more money, I get that it is better to £32m on a deal than £24m, but £8m when we are earned £100m last season and stand to earn £150m this season, I would rather lose the £8m and see Kante playing for a big European club therefore not directly playing against us and not massively improving a team we could be competing with for a top 4/5 spot.

[Countryfox]

2 minutes ago, Captain... said:

Of course Chelsea will offer a greater chance of long term success, but there is no guarantee of long term success, no guarantee that Conte will stick around seeing as he was so important to Kante going to Chelsea. In the last 10 years Chelsea have made 10 managerial changes, Conte just the 7. Long term Chelsea could and probably will offer more, but this season Leicester offer more and all I wanted was one more season from NG, or even just until January.  

 

As for Chelsea's amazing start,  they've played Burnley and Watford and West Ham at Stamford Bridge hardly the toughest opening fixtures and they have needed last minute goals to win 2 of those games and should have had Costa sent off in 2 of those games. 

 

The £8million is irrelevant, Kante didn't go to Chelsea over Real Madrid to make us a bit more money, I get that it is better to £32m on a deal than £24m, but £8m when we are earned £100m last season and stand to earn £150m this season, I would rather lose the £8m and see Kante playing for a big European club therefore not directly playing against us and not massively improving a team we could be competing with for a top 4/5 spot.

 

And I bet if he had gone to a big European club the Kante hate would be an awful lot less ....   

[chapero82]

3 hours ago, zealot said:

Let it go - you child!!! 

 

He's a Leicester hero and always will be. I'll always have an enormous amount of respect for him.

Close this tedious hate-filled thread.

I have nothing to let go?

I don't hate him etc and I appreciate all he did for us but he lost my respect leaving for Chelsea,

 

I don't see what the harm would have been to give us one more year rather than go to them right now!

 

but let's move on what's done is done.

[Manwell Pablo]

1 minute ago, Captain... said:

Of course Chelsea will offer a greater chance of long term success, but there is no guarantee of long term success, no guarantee that Conte will stick around seeing as he was so important to Kante going to Chelsea. In the last 10 years Chelsea have made 10 managerial changes, Conte just the 7. Long term Chelsea could and probably will offer more, but this season Leicester offer more and all I wanted was one more season from NG, or even just until January.  

 

As for Chelsea's amazing start,  they've played Burnley and Watford and West Ham at Stamford Bridge hardly the toughest opening fixtures and they have needed last minute goals to win 2 of those games and should have had Costa sent off in 2 of those games. 

 

The £8million is irrelevant, Kante didn't go to Chelsea over Real Madrid to make us a bit more money, I get that it is better to £32m on a deal than £24m, but £8m when we are earned £100m last season and stand to earn £150m this season, I would rather lose the £8m and see Kante playing for a big European club therefore not directly playing against us and not massively improving a team we could be competing with for a top 4/5 spot.

 

No gurantees with anything in life, no gurantee we're even going to stop in the league this season and no guarantee he'd wouldn't lose form and have missed his one and only chance of a big move. I'd say the fact we offer more this season, CL aside, very debatable. 

 

Yes but we've played Hull and Swansea and sit 5 points behind them. Doesn't really matter who you face you can't be unhappy with three straight wins in the PL. 

 

Well I find that odd, mainly because I think we will be lucky to be anywhere near the top four come the end of the season and I think Chelsea will manage it easily, I'd be delighted if we were back in Europe next year never mind the CL. Clearly we have different views of how our season is going to pan out. 

[Captain...]

2 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

No gurantees with anything in life, no gurantee we're even going to stop in the league this season and no guarantee he'd wouldn't lose form and have missed his one and only chance of a big move. I'd say the fact we offer more this season, CL aside, very debatable. 

 

Yes but we've played Hull and Swansea and sit 5 points behind them. Doesn't really matter who you face you can't be unhappy with three straight wins in the PL. 

 

Well I find that odd, mainly because I think we will be lucky to be anywhere near the top four come the end of the season and I think Chelsea will manage it easily, I'd be delighted if we were back in Europe next year never mind the CL. Clearly we have different views of how our season is going to pan out. 

If we had Kante and Chelsea didn't I would say we'd finish above them. He is that good a player, which is why I would never begrudge him going to one of the best clubs in the World, Chelsea are not one of the best clubs in the world, they are a toxic club that use their wealth to bully people.

 

There are no guarantees at anything, so why throw away something incredible for something that could be a disaster, the only reason is money and that is why people are so pissed off. As for how the season will go, I have no idea we could be anywhere from top 4 to bottom 3, but the team I saw against Arsenal looked very much like the champions of last season, a blip against Hull was unfortunate but we can recover.

[mad biker]

NG is a very quiet and indeed a very gullible and easily led young man, he was "advised" and strongly nudged into this move, but having said that I strongly suggest that adhering to the title of this thread is a good idea, lets "move on" lock the thread and let it fizzle away, we don`t really want to keep seeing the blokes name high up on the thread list do we ?

[Manwell Pablo]

20 minutes ago, Captain... said:

If we had Kante and Chelsea didn't I would say we'd finish above them. He is that good a player, which is why I would never begrudge him going to one of the best clubs in the World, Chelsea are not one of the best clubs in the world, they are a toxic club that use their wealth to bully people.

 

There are no guarantees at anything, so why throw away something incredible for something that could be a disaster, the only reason is money and that is why people are so pissed off. As for how the season will go, I have no idea we could be anywhere from top 4 to bottom 3, but the team I saw against Arsenal looked very much like the champions of last season, a blip against Hull was unfortunate but we can recover.

 

This is just a series of very bizarre and blinkered statements to me, all big clubs bully others by using their wealth. And while they do not have the history of other clubs at the forefront of European football it is pretty hard to argue against them being one of the major players in world football now, they've won every major trophy going this decade alone. Their ethos is not one many find attractive I agree but I don't think Kante particularly cares for all that, he never seemed to buy into this team and club like the rest of them did and it was obvious to me he was going to be on his way from the minute the full time whistle blew at Stamford Bridge last May. 

 

Even if everything you say is true coming back to the main point, surely delivering the impossible gives him enough leeway to do anything he wants career wise and still be welcomed back here. 

 

As I've already outlined (I don't doubt doubt money had something to do with it) I am not having Chelsea's ability to compete at the top level of football was not a factor in his decision. 

[stripeyfox]

4 hours ago, chapero82 said:

He did a great job for us yes, but he lost my respect when he moved to Chelsea

I bet that keeps him awake at night.....

 

 

[Captain...]

6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Even if everything you say is true coming back to the main point, surely delivering the impossible gives him enough leeway to do anything he wants career wise and still be welcomed back here.  

In many ways it does,  and I will always be grateful for last season, what I don't understand is why he would want to go to Chelsea when he could have gone to any club in Europe.

[Manwell Pablo]

Just now, Captain... said:

In many ways it does,  and I will always be grateful for last season, what I don't understand is why he would want to go to Chelsea when he could have gone to any club in Europe.

 

Well to be fair Chelsea were the only one with a bid in at the time?

 

I have no idea why but always seemed desperate to jump ship. 

[Sionnach gorm]

5 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Well to be fair Chelsea were the only one with a bid in at the time?

 

I have no idea why but always seemed desperate to jump ship. 

I tend to agree with other posters here that have made the claim that his agent may have had a hand in it.  Chelsea will give him much more "air time" than Leicester.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in a Barca or Real shirt in a year or two. 

 

As for the question at hand, I'm way over him.  I am not a fan of a single personality, but the team I support: Leicester City.

[Manwell Pablo]

16 minutes ago, Sionnach gorm said:

I tend to agree with other posters here that have made the claim that his agent may have had a hand in it.  Chelsea will give him much more "air time" than Leicester.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in a Barca or Real shirt in a year or two. 

 

As for the question at hand, I'm way over him.  I am not a fan of a single personality, but the team I support: Leicester City.

Perhaps, as others have said doesn't seem the sharpest knife in the draw and perhaps is self aware enough to trust others with the path his career takes. Would explain why he's not bought into the whole ethos of the team like others.

 

Good attitude to take, no need for the bitterness. He achieved great things here but if he wants to move on then we do as well.