Chelsea post match 2-4

[NewEnglandFox]

1 hour ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Sky ruined the game too. So many of the usual Leicester fans watched the game at home as it was cheaper. Which meant the majority of the ground was full of fake Leicester fans or fans that supported Chelsea.

 

 

Last night's attendance was more than our last two league cup home games combined and you want to use that excuse. It's the league cup, there are coming to be empty seats. I thought last night's attendance was a pleasant surprise.

Chelsea: 29,899

West Ham: 21,268

Shrewsbury: 8,017

[spudfox2911]

It doesn't matter if us fans think it's a tin pot cup or not. Of course we are proud of it but cclearly alot of clubs in our position see it as the reserve team trophy, has been like that for a long time now, most top 6 clubs use this cup to play reserves and youngsters to blood them, if they are successful they also tend to let that group progress in the cup aswell.

if we weren't in CL I'm sure the club would have seen it differently and to be honest I think that's their perogitive. Yes we have a larger squad now but even for chelseas bizarre season the strength in depth of our squads are obviously world's apart, let's face it out first team would have had a game on last night. The reserves were just unlucky to draw a team desperate to win something and of the nature of Chelsea, had it been norwich/derby etc we would have played the same team as that was always the gameplan for this cup.

[Wymsey]

Would've been even more mad if Mahrez played a big part of this game.

 

He's crucial for Saturday, based on the fact Man Utd play up slowly.

[Foxy_jim]

Read page 1 couldnt be arsed to read the rest. A team missing Kasper, Fuchs, Huth, Albrighton, Amartey, Mahrez, Slimani and Vardy held a strong Chelsea side 2-2 in 90 mins. Disaster? Abysmal? Hardly. Some people need to seriously grow up. Its the Mickey mouse cup, we move on. Everton lost at home to Norwich, Bournemouth lost at home to Preston. Our opponent ended the match with Fabregas, Hazard and Costa on the pitch v 10 men. But yeah, awful defeat and Claudios a clown blah blah

[st albans fox]

Just now, Foxy_jim said:

Read page 1 couldnt be arsed to read the rest. A team missing Kasper, Fuchs, Huth, Albrighton, Amartey, Mahrez, Slimani and Vardy held a strong Chelsea sise 2-2 in 90 mins. Disaster? Abysmal? Hardly. Some people need to seriously grow up. Its the Mickey mouse cup, we move on. Everton lost at home to Norwich, Bournemouth lost at home to Preston. Our opponent ended the match with Fabregas, Hazard and Costa on the pitch v 10 men. But yeah, awful defeat and Claudios a clown blah blah

 

Thank fvck for a bit of perspective

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Thracian]

For all that we had such good chances to win the game I thought we looked like an underpowered prototype undergoing tests than a team of first teamers wanting to win a cup and wannabee first teamers determined to show they'd die for the cause and at least compete with anyone.

 

Who could fail to notice impact of Vardy's introduction. In terms of pace and determination it was like watching a player from another adrenalin fueled planet - until even he could see no earthly sense in creating havoc among too many seemingly monastic team-mates.

 

Where were the makeweights in our team determined to show Ranieri was a w****r for leaving them out. Even in the goodish bit when we somehow established a 2-0 lead courtesy of Shinji-Power we looked laboured, disjointed and more vulnerable in defence than naked virgin in Rotherham town centre.          

 

But for all that our rearguard had more holes than a packet of Polos we should have had a penalty and Kingy, once Mr Reliable  when it came to finishing, should surely have given us a three goal lead with what looked like the gift of a goal on the far post.

 

He wasn't the only one at fault for poor finishing and certainly wasn't our worst player when it came to recycling the ball (albeit routinely) and breaking up a few attacks but what you don't get with Kingy, or certainly not last night, was attitude in terms expressed constantly by Drinkwater as in "No arsehole's gonna muscle me off the ball."

 

Yet last night we needed attitude from start to finish - but we needed it from everyone rather than from just a handful of action men.

 

The watchword was "responsibility" yet the difference last night between physical hardcase (but apparent mental softee) Waso, and now-perpetual tough nut Drinkwater was that Drinky saw out the engagement while  Waso left his already wounded colleagues isolated in a field - yet again.

 

Yes, Costa was playing to the audience but Waso left diplomacy behind and his team-mates waiting for the taxidermist cos they were sure going to be stuffed after that.

 

We need to learn permanent lessons from last night and a lot of them.  

 

   

 

 

          

[Foxy_jim]

34 minutes ago, Thracian said:

For all that we had such good chances to win the game I thought we looked like an underpowered prototype undergoing tests than a team of first teamers wanting to win a cup and wannabee first teamers determined to show they'd die for the cause and at least compete with anyone.

 

Who could fail to notice impact of Vardy's introduction. In terms of pace and determination it was like watching a player from another adrenalin fueled planet - until even he could see no earthly sense in creating havoc among too many seemingly monastic team-mates.

 

Where were the makeweights in our team determined to show Ranieri was a w****r for leaving them out. Even in the goodish bit when we somehow established a 2-0 lead courtesy of Shinji-Power we looked laboured, disjointed and more vulnerable in defence than naked virgin in Rotherham town centre.          

 

But for all that our rearguard had more holes than a packet of Polos we should have had a penalty and Kingy, once Mr Reliable  when it came to finishing, should surely have given us a three goal lead with what looked like the gift of a goal on the far post.

 

He wasn't the only one at fault for poor finishing and certainly wasn't our worst player when it came to recycling the ball (albeit routinely) and breaking up a few attacks but what you don't get with Kingy, or certainly not last night, was attitude in terms expressed constantly by Drinkwater as in "No arsehole's gonna muscle me off the ball."

 

Yet last night we needed attitude from start to finish - but we needed it from everyone rather than from just a handful of action men.

 

The watchword was "responsibility" yet the difference last night between physical hardcase (but apparent mental softee) Waso, and now-perpetual tough nut Drinkwater was that Drinky saw out the engagement while  Waso left his already wounded colleagues isolated in a field - yet again.

 

Yes, Costa was playing to the audience but Waso left diplomacy behind and his team-mates waiting for the taxidermist cos they were sure going to be stuffed after that.

 

We need to learn permanent lessons from last night and a lot of them.  

 

   

 

 

          

Wow. Its the league fvcking cup. How many more morons to post bullshit? You answer your own questions really. Despite having about 200 million quids worth of players, against half a Leicester team, it was a 2-2 draw with Musa and King having great chances to win it. Its bottom of our priorities, and we are Leicester!!!! Not a top club who have accumulated multi million pound players over some years. We were championship 3 years ago, now our reserves give Chelsea a good game, is the way i look at it. 

As I said after the Liverpool game, its not a crisis everytime we lose.

[norwichfox]

I'm not too disappointed that we lost, whilst it's never good to see your team beaten, it's got rid of some of the "lesser" fixtures. Had CR played none of our regular starters, winning the match would have been a benefit to us by giving a competitive run out for our "reserves", but we've seen Wasil red carded, Drinky "overplayed" some dire defending after the 45th minute passed and probably our team's confidence is shattered for the "proper" up-coming match against MU. We need some of the spirit from last season to shine through, and it just isn't happening yet. As I've posted before, win the next 2 league games and we'll actually be 1 point better off after 7 games than we were last season, that would be quite something in the face of all the doom and gloom that's around at the moment. We're leaking goals, which we did early last season too, and it wasn't until Judas started to hit form and RDL was replaced by Simpson that the leaks were mainly plugged. I want to see our lads back on a diet of Pizza's for the foreseeable future.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

8 hours ago, AjcW said:

Jeff didn't look unfit... he looked completely incapable. His pace and sharpness was the one thing he had going for him.

 

But there in lies the problem, Jeff joined our academy at a time when they were looking for 100m sprinters they could turn into footballers (i've posted about this in the U21 thread)

 

He's the latest in a long line of triers at this club who just aren't going to make it, we should have cut him loose in August, and if we had Kapustka would be getting a look in. 

Nailed it

[Wymsey]

Annoys me quite in people saying it's ''only'' the League Cup.

 

As if they don't want the club they support to have another trophy honour in the cabinet display.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

Um I totally misread this so deleted my reply!

[Foxxed]

There are things to care about, but exiting the league cup with a less than spectacular performance is up their with Kingy's photogenic appeal.

[st albans fox]

If we win our next two CL fixtures and other results fall our way, we could be playing similar line ups home to Bruges and at Porto. that would be a big bonus re our fitness for the premier league fixtures approaching and during december and for Jan when the squad will be short. 

 

i remember Jan when we lost at home to Spurs in the cup - MON was on the Beeb panel and when asked how long it would take the players to get over the loss, he answered 'about 20 seconds'. 

 

this is will be similar. Once the chance to take Chelsea's scalp had gone, the players will have moved on. I doubt they were expecting to go through in any case. 

 

Over dissecting last nights performance is liable to lead to deductions that are misleading. apart from knowing that wasyl could be a liability up against a top player (which many would anyway), there isn't much to learn. 

 

one thing I would point to is that when Chelsea went two up top, they had to revert back to one in order to take back control of the midfield.  Very few sides will be able to take us on 2 v 2 in the middle with the work rate of our strikers. This could be the reason that Claudio will resist the temptation to go a clean 3 v 3 in the midfield - he may see more to be gained by keeping the 'second striker' and allowing the game to be that bit more open. 

[STUHILL]

Everyone talking about King's miss from few yards out on the back post but am I the only one who saw that the linesman had raised his flag for offside anyway?? Doesn't excuse the miss but wouldn't have counted anyway, unless I totally imagined it. Thought the one where Gray did brilliantly against two defenders and put the ball on a plate for Schlupp who just seemed to leave it completely rather than tap it in, was painfully awful. 86th minute I believe too which would have won us the game. 

 

Ah well, last night just showed us that we lack quality in certain areas and are heavily dependant on our starting 11. No crime in that, just means we need to continue to strengthen in January and next Summer. 

 

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Everyone talking about King's miss from few yards out on the back post but am I the only one who saw that the linesman had raised his flag for offside anyway?? Doesn't excuse the miss but wouldn't have counted anyway, unless I totally imagined it. Thought the one where Gray did brilliantly against two defenders and put the ball on a plate for Schlupp who just seemed to leave it completely rather than tap it in, was painfully awful. 86th minute I believe too which would have won us the game. 

 

Ah well, last night just showed us that we lack quality in certain areas and are heavily dependant on our starting 11. No crime in that, just means we need to continue to strengthen in January and next Summer. 

 

he didn't cos it was miles onside. he raised it for a goal kick. not even stevie wonder would have got that one wrong

[Dickov22]

4 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

If Schlupp wasn't so retarded we'd be in the 4th round now. Why the fvck did he dummy that chance at the end of normal time? Just sums up why he's so useless, he is completely braindead. He should be such an effective player with that pace and strength, but he isn't, because he's thick. Plus he can't kick a ball and doesn't try. Just absolutely fed up with the bastard.

Defensively we were a shambles again. Morgan needs to buck his ideas up. It's so frustrating because at times this season we've looked the same side as last season and at others we've looked totally unrecognisable.

Really disappointed in us in extra time - yes we were down to 10 men but let's be fair, we didn't put in any effort at all. If that was a league or champions league game we'd have put up more of a fight with 8 men. But that's why I don't bother going to cup games anymore.

Schlupp was awful but he didn't dummy the ball. The ball was slightly behind him meaning he couldn't shoot. Granted, he could have at least tried to control the ball. But he didn't dummy it. 

[STUHILL]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

he didn't cos it was miles onside. he raised it for a goal kick. not even stevie wonder would have got that one wrong

 I take it back. Worse miss ever! Isn't heading supposed to be one of King's better skills too.. 

 

If he had only joined us a year or so a go, I doubt he would ever have got this new contract. Seems to have the stamina, fight and energy of a sloth. Silva in Jan please! 

[CosbehFox]

7 hours ago, Fox Ulike said:

Bang on. This was the key moment in the match that swung it their way.

 

Musa is great with the ball at his feet facing the opponent's goal, but he looks like he doesn't know how to do anything other than that! He doesn't seem to play a team role. It was very noticeable the difference when Vardy/Ulloa came on, and immediately started to close down the Chelsea defence.

 

On TV there was one moment it showed of Ranieri on the touchline talking to Musa, obviously giving him instructions. But Musa just didn't seem to acknowledge a single thing Ranieri was saying. I don't know how good his English is, but if it ain't great he certainly ain't gonna understand Uncle Claudio's pidgeon English.

Gray did the same for the second half, playing around with the ball in an area where a clearance would have been more suited 

[Raj]

10 hours ago, tyfox said:

I was in sk1 last night and it was a really good atmosphere they sang throughout

I can only state on how I saw it were I was buddy,which was the family stand with the kid. Defo fancy a shot in with you lot for a game to see if the old legs can handle it!!! 

[stevelcfc]

Was one of the worst crowds I think we've had, the atmosphere was good for about 15 seconds after Vardy entered the pitch, which says a lot about the people that went last night. Of the rows around me I noticed only 6 season ticket holders who had bothered going. As for L1, they've been poor the last few games. 

[Blizzard]

I am not bothered about any other competition other than the Champions league this season.  I want us to concentrate on that, and get a far as we possibly can. Obviously we have to survive the league, but that will happen anyway.

 

[Chico1958]

Stay Up.............. top 10 would be nice

 

Get through the group stage of Champions League

 

I'll be happy.

 

Our reserves couldn't beat Chelsea reserves that's all.

 

 

[tyfox]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

I can only state on how I saw it were I was buddy,which was the family stand with the kid. Defo fancy a shot in with you lot for a game to see if the old legs can handle it!!! 

Yeah give it a go mate it was awesome

[steflcfc]

Unfortunately, for clubs in the top 6/8 the league cup is an unwelcome addition to an already busy schedule of fixtures.

The FA Cup has a little more magic.

 

Hence, why teams play a weakened 11 and leave the big guns on the bench if needed.

 

We for this season at least, find ourselves in this bracket, our 11 consisted of a few fringe/first team players and youngsters pushing for the starting 11.

 

For a few players bar injuries these cup competitions may be the only action they get, and their wasn't many players who disgraced themselves and put in a decent shift against a good Chelsea side.

With no European competition they have no excuses to play a strong 11, like Man Utd as it will be the only silverware they will be in contention to win...with the £££ they have spent in the summer, is the least they should be achieving.

[Raj]

Might be olde school but I think a winning mentality no matter what competition just breeds a better squad ethos. Fair enough we do have better options to play for would still love a fair go at a cup.