Merging Cultures Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 I found myself watching a live Trump speech the other day. Not because I found what he was saying interesting, but just because I was waiting to see if he'd get shot.
UPinCarolina Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Trump is a vile piece of subhuman waste; Clinton is just corrupt.
MPH Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 There's been a few people i detest who have said that if Trump wins then they are leaving America.. Very tempting reason! Actually the only reason haha ( i cant vote though because im not an American citizen but hey ho!)
MPH Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 3 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: Trump is a vile piece of subhuman waste; Clinton is just corrupt. Its kind of like, if you want to live you have to eat someone's turd.... which turd should i eat!
MPH Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 My early pick was Ben Carson... but then he started supporting Trump and that turned me off him so quick....
Merging Cultures Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Trump is clearly a corrupt businessman as well. So, I'd rather take a corrupt politician, because they all are anyway, over a corrupt reprehensible vile saggy tangerine.
Merging Cultures Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 1 minute ago, MPH said: My early pick was Ben Carson... but then he started supporting Trump and that turned me off him so quick.... Having lived in Baltimore for so long, we were so hopeful for Ben Carson. Then he opened his mouth and seemed so flipping odd!
Wymsey Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 For the sake of it, Clinton is personally preferred. She speaks sense at times and can be helped by her husband who was respected by many at the helm. US national security will be threatened with Trump due to his views on certain faiths/groups alongside other things.
Mark_w Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Maybe it's just that every election/vote in my three years of adulthood has gone terribly, but I've got a horrible feeling Trump could win this.
Barky Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Bound to be a big shy trumper effect isn't there? If the polls are close then that'll do it
leicsmac Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Just now, Barky said: Bound to be a big shy trumper effect isn't there? If the polls are close then that'll do it Bradley Effect already accounted for and largely debunked. What little effect it has is already included in most polls.
Guest MattP Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 35 minutes ago, Barky said: Bound to be a big shy trumper effect isn't there? If the polls are close then that'll do it Possible, although Clinton is also so hated she could even have a shy vote in the Southern states, Fivethirtyeight has a good blog post today, up to 12% still undecided and that's the reason why they haven't called it for Clinton already. Only 3-4% was undecided in the last two elections.
Guest MattP Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 35 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Bradley Effect already accounted for and largely debunked. What little effect it has is already included in most polls. The Bradley effect is based on racial bias, that's not really anything to do with the possibility of a shy Trump vote.
leicsmac Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 From the fivethirtyeight live blog. Uncorroborated, but a little bit scary. "A friend in Chicago reports some pretty disturbing events from the polls this morning. She’s African-American and her husband is white, and they had pretty different experiences at their voting location. She was asked for a photo ID; he wasn’t. She only received part of her ballot at first, and they gave her the other half after she’d already started filling out the first part. Her husband also reported that the only other white voter in line, a man wearing a suit, was invited to cut in line because he was clearly “in a hurry.” (The man declined.) I have no idea if this is representative of what’s happening elsewhere, but it’s not encouraging."
leicsmac Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Just now, MattP said: The Bradley effect is based on racial bias, that's not really anything to do with the possibility of a shy Trump vote. Sorry, was talking in generalities regarding "shy voters" and how pollsters have, for the most part, learned to account for them now. Probably shouldn't have used Bradley as an example.
MPH Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 I think in the swing states and NC in particular ( where i live) alot of it depends on whether Hilary can galvanize the African American vote in the same way That Obama did. In 2008 he won North Carolina by 0.8% of the vote and that was largely in part by the much higher than normal percentage of the African American community that voted.
Guest MattP Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 8 minutes ago, leicsmac said: From the fivethirtyeight live blog. Uncorroborated, but a little bit scary. "A friend in Chicago reports some pretty disturbing events from the polls this morning. She’s African-American and her husband is white, and they had pretty different experiences at their voting location. She was asked for a photo ID; he wasn’t. She only received part of her ballot at first, and they gave her the other half after she’d already started filling out the first part. Her husband also reported that the only other white voter in line, a man wearing a suit, was invited to cut in line because he was clearly “in a hurry.” (The man declined.) I have no idea if this is representative of what’s happening elsewhere, but it’s not encouraging." Probably bollocks, but I'm sure there is iffy stuff going on everywhere, the system is clearly open to all sorts of corruption anyway judging from the things we have seen and read over the last few days, makes you realise how solid our system is (outside parts of Birmingham and Tower Hamlets) EDIT: Literally just got a text through from my mate in Austin who says there are trucks and people waving Confederate flags outside the polling station, and that's Austin which is the Blue Island. Imagine what it's like in Arlington. Country could be like Mississippi Burning by the time you get there mate
GaelicFox Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 On 07/11/2016 at 17:44, Swan Lesta said: Oi - pipe down this is for dying kids and I reckon we could raise a fair bit.... Set up as funding page I won't respond to his aggressive posts anymore , he has anger issues and puberty is hurting I think he has already had me suspended once before
Finnegan Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 2 minutes ago, GaelicFox said: Set up as funding page I won't respond to his aggressive posts anymore , he has anger issues and puberty is hurting I think he has already had me suspended once before
Grewks Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 State of some of these voters. What guy wears shorts, knee high black socks and white trainers? It's like a Jeremy Kyle casting couch.
GaelicFox Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 6 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Possibly indirectly
Webbo Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 I don't recall finners reporting anyone or asking for them to be banned.
AKCJ Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Obviously they've picked the interviews that back their motives but this is quite revealing. https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10154433910521800/?pnref=story America has such a large population of outright backward neanderthals.
Grewks Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 Just now, AKCJ said: Obviously they've picked the interviews that back their motives but this is quite revealing. https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10154433910521800/?pnref=story America has such a large population of outright backward neanderthals. Nah. White trainers and knee high black socks is clearly some futuristic fashion statement.
leicsmac Posted 8 November 2016 Posted 8 November 2016 16 minutes ago, MattP said: Probably bollocks, but I'm sure there is iffy stuff going on everywhere, the system is clearly open to all sorts of corruption anyway judging from the things we have seen and read over the last few days, makes you realise how solid our system is (outside parts of Birmingham and Tower Hamlets) EDIT: Literally just got a text through from my mate in Austin who says there are trucks and people waving Confederate flags outside the polling station, and that's Austin which is the Blue Island. Imagine what it's like in Arlington. Country could be like Mississippi Burning by the time you get there mate Wish I could say I was surprised.
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