Manwell Pablo Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: To think that Shearer didn't get a ban for kicking Lennon in the face an all. The sooner they start accepting that their referees are complete liabilities the sooner the game will improve. Only because he black mailed them by threatening to not play for England.
m4DD0gg Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Lets see what Shinji and Slim can do in a partnership.
Neil_LCFC Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 5 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: I really don't see why people are having a go at Everton and Barkley, they don't make the rules. The fact he's got a yellow and Vardy a read is circumstantial and nothing else. The Ref and the FA are to blame. If you want to have a go at someone, have a go at the people who really need to change the way they treat post match disciplinary proceedings. And do so when the rules work for you as well against you instead of taking the "well its about time we got a decision" stance (not saying you do but many in general do) The problem with football and it's not isolated to one particular rule, is pretty much the lot actually, is people are quite quick to come down on one rule when it's fcked them over, but when it's working for the team they support it's the best thing since slice bread, thus we get nowhere as a sport in general as everyone is obsessed with winning instead of trying to stream line the sport for the greater good of the game. I'm not having a go at Everton I am having a go at the FA for f ucking us over with there terrible rules. I kind of get the feeling if it was Vardy last night doing exactly the same tackle as Barkley he would have been off anyway.
Matt Posted 20 December 2016 Author Posted 20 December 2016 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: To think that Shearer didn't get a ban for kicking Lennon in the face an all. The sooner they start accepting that their referees are complete liabilities the sooner the game will improve. It's not a case of that imo, I understand they have a hard job, can't see everything, have to make split second decisions, I sympathise with them, for me it starts and ends with The FA, they need to help their referee's by introducing video replays, help them. But no they'd rather them fail, make clubs and players suffer then stand by their referees no matter how wrong they are.
lgfualol Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 33 minutes ago, kingcarr21 said: It was always going to be rejected. Hopefully we stumble on Okazaki and Slimani super partnership Thought they were good together vs Palace. At least Slim can have a go in his normal position.
Benji Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Very predictable. The "can't review an incident when the ref gives a yellow" is pathetic when in the space of two weeks you have three leg breaking challenges get an unreviewed yellow and a debatable red which is no where near as bad upheld.
Hammo Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Fact - the ref knee-jerk panicked into erroneously showing a red card to Vardy because of his Rojo cock-up a few days earlier. It was a challenge without malice or violence, and no one - not even that tosser Hughes - would have batted an eyelid if it had gone unpunished. Fact - the FA panel are cowards. They know it wasn't a red but refuse to twist the knife on an incompetent ref. Fact - Vardy won't be playing v Everton and neither will Fuchs or Huth so we have to just get on with what we've got. Let's make sure that the 'all for one, one for all' spirit we (players and fans) demonstrated repeatedly last season - and in the second half v Stoke - is off the scale on Boxing Day! With our sense of seething injustice, Everton won't know what's hit them...
Dan Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 You can always rely on the FA to get it wrong. No-one brings the sport into disrepute more than the FA themselves.
Guest Danny Clender Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 38 minutes ago, jim5000 said: I'm not suprised. I said in the match day thread that it was a leg-breaker if slightly mistimed. How anyone can watch the first 7 seconds of this and say it's not a red I don't understand, he dives in with both feet Regarding the "first seven seconds" The angle we see in the video is not what the ref is seeing, its completely irrelevant to compare what the camera angle shows us in the "first seven seconds" to what Craig Pawson saw. Its his job to get a better view than we will ever see.
The Guvnor Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Howard Webb, probably the best PL ref ever has said Pawson should never have been in charge for the game after the howler the previous Wed, following the Vardy red card and the Pieters fcuk up, has now suggested he should be stood down for the Liv v Man City match. I rest my case We have been done over.
Guest Danny Clender Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Great to read the positives of this outcome listed, you can only hope for the best. I'm glad it puts refereeing decisions in the spotlight. Video Replays are coming, like it or not, and in 10 years time, and hopefully much much sooner, people will say "Remember when we didn't have video replays?" Cricket, NFL, Rugby, Tennis, NBA, F1, MLB, Ice Hockey all have video review based decisions or appeals and work perfectly well. The decision to leave them out football is simply archaic.
Matt Posted 20 December 2016 Author Posted 20 December 2016 3 minutes ago, The Guvnor said: Howard Webb, probably the best PL ref ever has said Pawson should never have been in charge for the game after the howler the previous Wed, following the Vardy red card and the Pieters fcuk up, has now suggested he should be stood down for the Liv v Man City match. I rest my case We have been done over. They can't, surely. If they do how can they justify rejecting the appeal? Ok he was handing yellows out, maybe they could deem they were wrong, infact 1 was, he carded the wrong Stoke player, but even so imo they cannot stand him down from the Liverpool v Man City game though not now they've backed him in this way. I do hope he makes another major **** up in the game though, but no doubt if he does there will be alot more noise made about him because it's Liverpool and Man City, not little old Leicester.
Spudulike Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 The FA obviously thought that Pawson's decision making was spot on. Mixing up those two Stoke players was a mistake that anyone could've made as they are so similar, almost twin like.
ImBlue Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Problem here for refs is you make a mistake and give a red, then rescind process is there. In Barkley/Rojo case, you get it wrong and give yellow nothing to correct your decision. it's backwards. Why not only give red if 100% sure and yellow if not, and review yellows that should be reds? Bonkers
urban.spaceman Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 If Barkley scores against us on Boxing Day then this is is an absoulte outrage.
Twitcher Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 So all those that were going nuts on Saturday and saying it was defo wrong.........
ImBlue Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 1 minute ago, Twitcher said: So all those that were going nuts on Saturday and saying it was defo wrong......... It was
st albans fox Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 17 minutes ago, The Guvnor said: Howard Webb, probably the best PL ref ever has said Pawson should never have been in charge for the game after the howler the previous Wed, following the Vardy red card and the Pieters fcuk up, has now suggested he should be stood down for the Liv v Man City match. I rest my case We have been done over. He also said it was a red .................. he wants to help pawson get away from the heat but he said on BT that it was a red.
aussie-fox Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 1 hour ago, jim5000 said: I'm not suprised. I said in the match day thread that it was a leg-breaker if slightly mistimed. yeah true, but he didn't miss time it
ImBlue Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Vardy serves 3 games for getting the ball and none if the player. Shelvey 5 games for racial abuse might as as well been racist
foxinmyhouse Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 it a complete joke, his stoods were facing down, he won the ball and only one leg went in to the tackle. If this is a 3 match ban then tackling should just be banned altogether. The only reason they have given him this ban is because they know they should not have let him ref the match in the first place and by going against the ref they are admiting their mistake which they will never do. The message the fa are sending out is next time just try and break the other players leg as you have less chance of getting a ban. The fa should just f off
Koke Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 Lets get it right It was a foul. It was a yellow, borderline red. Jason Cundy calked it an "orange" and i agree. So why are we outraged as if this is the biggest injustice in the world. Yes i understand the problem that Barkley and Rojo got away with worse but thats by the by.
Twitcher Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 6 minutes ago, ImBlue said: It was It can't be if a retrospective panel have assessed it and still arrived at it being a red. Personally I think it was harsh, but you can't argue it was defo. wrong or it would have been overturned without debate. People wouldn't be describing it as an "orange" if it was defo. wrong.
Koke Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 7 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: If Barkley scores against us on Boxing Day then this is is an absoulte outrage. If Barkley scores then that's our fault. Reminder that Danny Drinkwater got away with a shocking horror tackle on Aaron Ramsey last season. Notwithstanding Ramsey's comical rolling around but the tackle itself was a disgrace and Drinkwater escaped without punishment. Refs make big errors. I dont think this is the worst decision by the FA.
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 December 2016 Posted 20 December 2016 @Manwell Pablo had this spot on all along. Its no surprise whatsoever. Does it now mean Vardy gets 4 matches ban?
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